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I have a music file with several songs and associated titles created with Audacity.  Is there a way to use ImgBurn to burn these songs along with their titles to a CD?  No problem burning the songs to a CD, but how can I also get the titles on the CD so that they are recognized by a CD player?

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I guess I need some more help.   I got all the tracks (songs) listed.  Then I clicked on each one and clicked on file name beside CD-TEXT.  The "file name" was the name of the song in each case.  I did nothing with Default CD-TEXT (disc/track) below.  Then I saved as a Cue file and finally burned the Cue file.  Songs played fine in the CD player, but no song titles were portrayed.  What am I missing?

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Could you attach the CUE file you created please? Or open it in notepad and copy+paste everything.

 

Obviously the player needs to support the reading of CD-TEXT in the first place or it won't display anything.

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That's got the CD-TEXT info in it, so it'll be on the disc.

 

Playback (it being visible somewhere) is down to your player I'm afraid.

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Any idea why my CD player recognizes the song titles on a commercial CD but not on the CD that I prepared as you showed me how?

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I copied the log file.  Is this what you want?

 

I 10:39:12 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!
I 10:39:12 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 10:39:12 Total Physical Memory: 16,662,120 KB  -  Available: 14,185,100 KB
I 10:39:12 Initialising SPTI...
I 10:39:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 10:39:12 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI DVD A  DH24ACSH LAA3 (E:) (ATA)
I 10:39:12 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 10:39:59 Operation Started!
I 10:39:59 Source File: C:\Users\Walt\Documents\Easy Listening Cue 2.cue
I 10:39:59 Source File Sectors: 214,711 (AUDIO/2352)
I 10:39:59 Source File Size: 505,000,272 bytes
I 10:39:59 Source File File System(s): None
I 10:39:59 Destination Device: [3:0:0] ATAPI DVD A  DH24ACSH LAA3 (E:) (ATA)
I 10:39:59 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.)
I 10:39:59 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
I 10:39:59 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844
I 10:39:59 Write Mode: CD
I 10:39:59 Write Type: SAO
I 10:39:59 Write Speed: MAX
I 10:39:59 Lock Volume: Yes
I 10:39:59 Test Mode: No
I 10:39:59 OPC: No
I 10:39:59 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:39:59 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,468 KB/s (48x)
I 10:39:59 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes
I 10:39:59 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)
I 10:40:00 Writing LeadIn... (CD-TEXT)
I 10:40:18 Writing Session 1 of 1... (14 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 214710)
I 10:40:18 Writing Track 1 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 0 - 11633)
I 10:40:25 Writing Track 2 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 11634 - 24256)
I 10:40:32 Writing Track 3 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 24257 - 39261)
I 10:40:40 Writing Track 4 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 39262 - 52622)
I 10:40:47 Writing Track 5 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 52623 - 66847)
I 10:40:54 Writing Track 6 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 66848 - 91479)
I 10:41:05 Writing Track 7 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 91480 - 106651)
I 10:41:12 Writing Track 8 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 106652 - 127619)
I 10:41:20 Writing Track 9 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 127620 - 142777)
I 10:41:26 Writing Track 10 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 142778 - 157336)
I 10:41:32 Writing Track 11 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 157337 - 171352)
I 10:41:37 Writing Track 12 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 171353 - 183306)
I 10:41:41 Writing Track 13 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 183307 - 202463)
I 10:41:48 Writing Track 14 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 202464 - 214710)
I 10:41:52 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:42:01 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:42:01 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Walt\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH24ACSH_LAA3_WEDNESDAY-MAY-22-2013_10-39_AM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg
I 10:42:01 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:42:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:02
I 10:42:01 Average Write Rate: 5,302 KB/s (30.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 6,860 KB/s (39.8x)
 

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It's saying....

 

I 10:40:00 Writing LeadIn... (CD-TEXT)

 

... so the CD-TEXT info has been written to the disc.

 

If you switch the program into Read mode, click the 'View Media Information' button down the bottom right of the 'Source' box. It should read the CD-TEXT info on the disc and display the track names in the box that pops up.

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OK.  But this doesn't help me with the CD player in my car, which is where I'm wanting the song titles to be displayed.  As I said, song titles are displayed in my car for a commercial CD.  Why not with the one I've prepared here?

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I'm just checking it was written to the disc ok and that ImgBurn can at least read it.

 

Sorry, I have no idea why your car CD player can't read it.

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Sorry.  I hadn't actually tried switching the ImgBurn program to read mode, like you suggested, before I sent my last post.  Here's what I see when I do:

 

Under the "Track" column, just the track numbers are listed.

 

Under the "Start" column, some times are listed as well as the song title.

 

Is that where you would expect to see the song title?

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So, tell me, would you expect the song titles to be listed under the "Start" column rather than under the "Track" column?

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That's purely a cosmetic design decision within the program. If the cdtext info is listed, it's present on the disc.

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Because my car CD player displays song titles for commercial CDs, I just keep thinking there must be some way to get the titles on CDs I make and have them displayed.  I've tried different options with ImgBurn but so far have found nothing that works.

 

I've used Magix Audio Cleaning Lab in the past to import and edit music.  That program can also be used to burn audio CDs.  But, I don't currently have it installed on my computer.  I guess I'm tempted to purchase the latest version & see if that will solve my problem.

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When you are in Imgburn, and go to Mode, then Write, there is an icon in about the center of the window that is "Create Cue File". Are you using this feature? When you import the music tracks on this screen, you can type in the song info (if it didn't already import it), and just above the OK/CANCEL are 2 buttons with more options. You can then press OK to Queue the job up to burn in Imgburn.

 

If you haven't been playing with the "Create Cue File" screen, try it. I stumbled many times too, but that's what I use now and my CD text properly shows in my car.

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Yes, after Mode and Write, I have selected "Creat Cue File".  At that point, I have imported the songs I want to burn to the CD.  Then there are 4 options to the right of CD-TEXT:  "None", "File Name", "Tag", and "Custom".  I have tried all of these except "None".  In each case, I have made sure that the title of each of the songs was present in the Title box below.  Finally, in the 2 boxes above OK and Cancel, there is the option to select "None", "Tag", or "Custom"  for both the Disc/Track.  I have tried them all.  But, I have only tried the same label for both Disc and Track, e.g. "Custom" for both boxes.  I have not tried combinations such as "Tag" for Disc and "Custom" for Track.

 

So, unless you can think of something else I should try, I've about concluded that ImgBurn is not going to accomplish what I want.

 

Like I said, I've about decided to give Magix Audio Cleaning Lab a try even though I'll have to purchase a new version (the old version I have won't work with my new computer).  I've used this program in the past to edit music but have not tried to include song titles that will be displayed by my car's CD player.

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As is hasn't just worked, I'd assume your player either just doesn't read CD-TEXT from CD-R/CD-RW discs or it's ultra fussy about the formatting of it and maybe ImgBurn isn't doing it exactly how it wants it.

 

If you've got a CD where it shows up, read it to an image using ImgBurn and then burn it to another disc. See if the CD-TEXT info is then visible on the copy.

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OK.  I did that.  Song titles were displayed with the new disc using my car's CD player.  How do I learn from this how to get song titles displayed on a disc made from "scratch"?

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Can you email me the cue file and cdt file for the disc you read to an image please?

 

Also, the log from where you read the disc to an image file - you can just copy + paste that. Thanks.

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Not sure.  Is this the log?

 

I attempted to email the cue and cdt files to you.  Let me know if you got what you want.

 

Walt

 

ATAPI DVD A  DH24ACSH LAA3 (ATA)
Current Profile: CD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 159,467
Size: 326,588,416 bytes
Time: 35:28:17 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 8x, 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> PreGap  (Audio, 00:00:37, LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> Track 01  (Audio, 03:44:43, LBA: 37 / 00:02:37)
-> Track 02  (Audio, 03:19:37, LBA: 16880 / 03:47:05)
-> Track 03  (Audio, 03:07:45, LBA: 31842 / 07:06:42)
-> Track 04  (Audio, 03:40:70, LBA: 45912 / 10:14:12)
-> Track 05  (Audio, 04:00:30, LBA: 62482 / 13:55:07)
-> Track 06  (Audio, 04:08:45, LBA: 80512 / 17:55:37)
-> Track 07  (Audio, 02:32:45, LBA: 99157 / 22:04:07)
-> Track 08  (Audio, 02:42:60, LBA: 110602 / 24:36:52)
-> Track 09  (Audio, 04:07:08, LBA: 122812 / 27:19:37)
-> Track 10  (Audio, 04:01:47, LBA: 141345 / 31:26:45)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 159467 / 35:28:17)

Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 37, LTS: 16843)
-> Track 02 (LTSA: 16880, LTS: 14962)
-> Track 03 (LTSA: 31842, LTS: 14070)
-> Track 04 (LTSA: 45912, LTS: 16570)
-> Track 05 (LTSA: 62482, LTS: 18030)
-> Track 06 (LTSA: 80512, LTS: 18645)
-> Track 07 (LTSA: 99157, LTS: 11445)
-> Track 08 (LTSA: 110602, LTS: 12210)
-> Track 09 (LTSA: 122812, LTS: 18533)
-> Track 10 (LTSA: 141345, LTS: 18122)

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