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Same mfr (diff codes), but I get a LOT of L-EC Uncorrectable Errors on the DL discs - *never* on SL discs - almost always at ~99% of verify.

 

ImgBurn is the only program I know of that has the VERIFY function - anyone know of any others that I could use for a comparison?

 

I have tried different I/o interfaces, but still get the error.   :(

 

It is not "cheap" media either.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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I 21:07:12 Initialising SPTI...

I 21:07:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 21:07:13 -> Drive 1 - Info: ASUS DRW-24B1ST   i 1.00 (N:) (SATA)

I 21:07:13 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM

I 21:07:46 Operation Started!

I 21:07:46 Source File: XXXXXXXXXXXX

I 21:07:46 Source File Sectors: 4,124,928 (MODE1/2048)

I 21:07:46 Source File Size: 8,447,852,544 bytes

I 21:07:47 Source File Volume Identifier: 

I 21:07:47 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 44319AE2003EF0F5

I 21:07:47 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 21:07:47 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 21:07:47 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 21:07:47 Destination Device: [5:0:0] ASUS DRW-24B1ST   i 1.00 (N:) (SATA)

I 21:07:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MBIPG101-R10-65)

I 21:07:47 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 21:07:47 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 21:07:47 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes)

I 21:07:47 Write Mode: DVD

I 21:07:47 Write Type: DAO

I 21:07:47 Write Speed: 8x

I 21:07:47 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No

I 21:07:47 Link Size: Auto

I 21:07:47 Lock Volume: Yes

I 21:07:47 Test Mode: No

I 21:07:47 OPC: Yes

I 21:07:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 21:07:47 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x)

I 21:07:47 Book Type Setting: N/A (Reason: Invalid Command Operation Code)

I 21:07:47 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes

I 21:08:32 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,062,464

I 21:08:32 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 21:08:32 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!

I 21:08:32 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 2,062,464

I 21:08:32 Filling Buffer... (512 MiB)

I 21:08:37 Writing LeadIn...

I 21:08:43 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4124927)

I 21:08:43 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4124927)

I 21:08:43 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2062463)

I 21:17:29 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2062464 - 4124927)

I 21:26:25 Synchronising Cache...

I 21:26:31 Closing Track...

I 21:26:32 Finalising Disc...

I 21:27:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:20

I 21:27:07 Average Write Rate: 7,768 KiB/s (5.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,903 KiB/s (8.1x)

I 21:27:07 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 21:27:14 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 21:27:26 Device Ready!

I 21:27:26 Operation Started!

I 21:27:26 Source Device: [5:0:0] ASUS DRW-24B1ST   i 1.00 (N:) (SATA)

I 21:27:26 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MBIPG101-R10-65)

I 21:27:26 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x

I 21:27:26 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

I 21:27:26 Source Media Sectors: 4,124,928 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 2,062,464 - L1: 2,062,464)

I 21:27:26 Source Media Size: 8,447,852,544 bytes

I 21:27:26 Image File: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I 21:27:26 Image File Sectors: 4,124,928 (MODE1/2048)

I 21:27:26 Image File Size: 8,447,852,544 bytes

I 21:27:26 Image File Volume Identifier: 

I 21:27:26 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 44319AE2003EF0F5

I 21:27:26 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 21:27:26 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 21:27:26 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 21:27:26 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 21:27:27 Hardware Read Error Retries: 20

I 21:27:28 Read Speed - Effective: 4.8x - 12x, 12x - 4.8x

I 21:27:28 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4124927)

I 21:27:28 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4124927)

I 21:27:28 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2062463)

I 21:33:30 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2062464 - 4124927)

W 21:39:32 Failed to Read Sectors 4111360 - 4111391 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 21:39:43 Failed to Read Sector 4111385 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 21:39:43 Sector 4111385 maps to File: XXXXXXXXX

W 21:39:48 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 21:39:54 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 21:39:59 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 21:40:06 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 21:40:10 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 21:40:17 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

W 21:40:21 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 21:40:28 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

 

etc .....

 

And yes, I have also tried 4x - same issues.  Not a firmware issue, as this is the only firmware for this model (this is Rev i, so v1.03 is not compatible)

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If your discs don't have the MKM-003-00 MID, you aren't using the right discs.

 

Your drive (and its firmware) is doing a bad job of burning those 'MBIPG101-R10-65' ones, hence why the end of the disc is unreadable.

 

Don't mess with the hardware retry settings either, put it back on the default value (of not setting the hardware retry count).

 

Enabling OPC before write might be making things worse. Turn that back off again too.

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I'll try those things.  The discs burn just fine for the first couple of months, then the drives seem to "die" on them - and this is ANY brand (LiteOn, Asus, LG, Sony, HP - only one I haven't tried is Plextor).  And I've tried multiple firmwares on the other drives.

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Ok, so this makes things even more ....... interesting (more like a PAIN, but ....)

 

I decided to shell out for a Plextor (retail, not bulk) and got the PX-891SAW.

 

SAME issue.     :(

 

Could you explain what turning off the hardware retries does, and how that would not still result in a bad burn?

 

Very frustrated with this   :(

 

Thanks.

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You aren't turning it off (so to speak), you just aren't modifying the drive's default behaviour.

 

It won't do a thing to the burn, just how the drive behaves when reading back the disc.

 

Have you bought some Verbatim 8x 'MKM-003-00' discs now? They're the only ones you should be using.

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Ummm, sorry for being stone-dumb, but I'm still confused.  If the options don't change how the burn is done, and with them on it generates errors, doesn't turning them off just not notify you of those errors?  It would *still* be a bad burn, but you wouldn't know it.

 

Not sure how that distinguishes ImgBurn from all the other burner software that *doesn't* have a Verify option.

 

Thanks.

 

And no, I'm not spending the exorbitant $$$ for the MKM discs (at an average of $1.00US/disc, I can blow out 5 of these and STILL be saving money!)

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You should be leaving the drive to performs as many retries as it wants to by default (i.e. after it has been switched on for the first time). By messing with that setting, you're changing how the drive does its job.

 

Discs will always have errors on them (you'll never get a perfect disc/burn) but the drive's internal error correction routines get around all that. It would appear yours is unable to do so once you've messed with the 'set hardware retries' option and that's when you (as a 'user') start seeing errors being reported.

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Ok, still kind of odd to me - it would seem it's just "ignoring" hardware errors if it's turned off ..... ?

 

What's stranger is that, having it set to begin with, as I said, the drives seem to start having problems after a few months of use .....    :(

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The drives have a default behaviour/configuration.

 

You're modifying the behaviour/configuration and it's causing problems.

 

Stop modifying it.

 

Seems pretty simple to me?

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Don't, you'll make me blush ;)

 

Does kprobe work with your ASUS drive? If so, scan one of the DL discs you've burnt (scan at 4x) and see what it looks like.

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Ok, so I even tried both the Plextor and the LiteOn iHAS124W - BOTH blew out the discs, and this was after I uninstalled and re-installed ImgBurn and set everything to default.

 

I tried running KProbe on the last fail and it basically stopped right after it started with only this info -

 

Date                     : 1/25/2014 5:19:37 PM
Model                    : 5-2-0-0 N:ATAPI   iHAS124   W      HL05
Disc                     : DVD+R DL , MBIPG101R10 [Moser Baer India Limited]
Speed                    : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF)  : 8/1
Scanned range            : 0 - 00:02:00 (0)
Sampling count           : 0
Errors                   : 1
PI Max                   : 0
PI Average               : 0.0
PI Total                 : 0
PIF Max                  : 0
PIF Average              : 0.0
PIF Total                : 0
 
 
:(
 
Here's the log info from this one -
 
I 02:27:51 Destination Device: [5:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124   W HL05 (N:) (SATA)
I 02:27:51 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MBIPG101-R10-65)
I 02:27:51 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x
I 02:27:51 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 02:27:51 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes)
I 02:27:52 Write Mode: DVD
I 02:27:52 Write Type: DAO
I 02:27:52 Write Speed: 4x
I 02:27:52 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 02:27:52 Link Size: Auto
I 02:27:52 Lock Volume: Yes
I 02:27:52 Test Mode: No
I 02:27:52 OPC: No
I 02:27:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 02:27:52 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
I 02:27:52 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 02:27:52 Advanced Settings - Force HT: N/A, Online HT: N/A, OverSpeed: N/A, SmartBurn: Yes
I 02:27:52 CD/DVD Life Record Count: 5 - CD/DVD Record Count: 3
I 02:27:52 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,903,184
I 02:27:52 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 02:27:57 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 02:27:57 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 1,903,184
I 02:27:57 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 02:27:57 Writing LeadIn...
I 02:28:01 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3712703)
I 02:28:01 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3712703)
I 02:28:01 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1903183)
I 02:39:59 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1903184 - 3712703)
W 02:43:30 Failed to Write Sectors 2429296 - 2429327 - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:30 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 02:43:30 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:30 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 02:43:31 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:31 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 02:43:31 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:31 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 02:43:32 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:32 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 02:43:32 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:32 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 02:43:33 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:33 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 02:43:33 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:33 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 02:43:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:34 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 02:43:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:34 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 02:43:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:35 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 02:43:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:35 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 02:43:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:35 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 02:43:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:36 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 02:43:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:36 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 02:43:37 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:37 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 02:43:37 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:37 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 02:43:38 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:38 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 02:43:38 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:38 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 02:43:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
W 02:43:39 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 02:43:39 Retry Failed - Reason: Write Error
E 10:36:55 Failed to Write Sectors 2429296 - 2429327 - Reason: Write Error
 
 
Edited by DeathStalker

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