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#21 gamercr7

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 02:43 PM

I use dvd-r verbatim azo id: mcc 03rg20 and my drive is Liteon iHAS122 F Firmware EL06 and burned in 6x, they are all good or bad to get low jitter, low pie, low pif, low po? Thanks for the help I did not understand about jitter, pie, pif, po


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 04:30 PM

I'm just repeating myself again.

Please do what I've told you to.
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 03:12 PM

I tested the disks and results similar to the results of the image, the disc is good or bad? Punctuation 95 or 94, jitter, pie, pif, po similar



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Posted 15 December 2016 - 03:19 PM

I'd like to see the screenshots of the results please.

If they look the same as your previous one, my response will be the same too.
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 03:49 PM

I do not have screenshots, just the ones I posted before, I know that jitter, pie, pif, pof can destroy my files and the values of the scans are similar, I do not know why the levels of jitter, pie, pif, pof are Those if the disc was made in 2016 for verbatim

I do not know how to judge these values, PIE is bad?ATAPI iHAS122.png ATAPI.png ATAPI___iHAS122___F_EL06_06-November-2016_21.png



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Posted 15 December 2016 - 06:41 PM

If you compare it to the results I linked you to, you'll see mine were 10% of what yours are.

Obviously the lower the better here as we're talking about errors.

So this is where I'd be inclined to burn a couple more discs at different write speeds and then do the PIPO scan on those to see if they're better or worse than the discs you said you burnt at 6x.
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 07:01 PM

your drive is different from mine, does it have any distorted results? I can not burn much discs for test because I have few units and in Brazil it does not sell dvd verbatim


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 03:43 PM

1 on DVD-R 16x Verbatim MCC03RG20 what should I do to get the best jitter, the best PIE, the best PIF, best POF? My drive is Liteon iHAS122 F Firmware EL06
 
2 for scan jitter, pie, pif, pof what is the best speed I should use for all 16x dvd-r discs?
 
3 What is the best setting for ImgBurn to make the best burn? enable OPC?
 
4 is it possible to extract all this content from this disk with high PIE and get this content and burn in a new media? 100% of this content is good? Scandisc readtest surface is 100% good result test


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:13 PM

1. Please don't expect me or anyone else to know exactly what works best for a every drive/firmware/media combo. You have to perform your own tests, make your own PIPO scans and interpret your own results.

2. I usually always do PIPO scans at 4x.

3. The defaults work fine. Sometime, enabling the 'Perform OPC Before Write' option will help things. Sometimes it makes them worse. Again, you have to try it, PIPO scan and see for youself.

4. If it reads the disc without reporting an error, it *should* be fine.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:40 PM

1 I can not burn a lot of media for testing because I have few verbatim media, I burned 5 or 6 Verbatim AZO MCC DVD-R discs at 6x and all showed high PIE, so I think these discs are unreliable and that they will die Early because of the high jitter and high pit, I'll post new pics of new scans that I did
 
2 I did PIPO scan in 4x and 8x
 
3 disks are normally read according to the read test surface 100% good nero diskspeed but what kills the disks is PIE, PIF, jitter, POF

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:42 PM

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 06:49 PM

The tests you're doing there with Nero DiscSpeed (ScanDisc with C1/C2 - PI/PO enabled) are not tests I'm ever going to want to see.

ImgBurn's Verify and the 'Disc Quality' one are enough.

Where did your Verbatim discs come from, eBay? Does Amazon deliver to your location?
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:09 PM

1 ScanDisc with C1 / C2 - PI / PO enabled is the same as Disc quality, the two tests shows PIE, PIF and PIE, PIF, jitter
 
2 ImgBurn Verify say it is buggy but in my tests imgburn verify the result was no errors
 
3 my verbatim disks are legitimate bought from an ebay seller, amazon is expensive shipping in brazil
 
4 I have another drive to test but I do not know if it tests jitter, PIE, PIF, is the LG GH24NS90 24X Sata


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 08:26 PM

1. Yes but the results are displayed in a totally different manner. The ScanDisc one is useless.

2. Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

3. Ok, I just wondered if they were really expensive to import or if getting more was an option.

4. You don't need it to test those things. Burn+Verify with it and then do the Disc Quality scans in your LiteOn.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:58 PM

1 scandisc PI-Po and Disc Quality is not the same test? I will post new images of disc quality
 
2 this LG model may show distorted or true results about jitter, pie, pif but I do not know if it supports this

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:05 AM

1. Look at the way the 2 tests display the results. One (Disc Quality) is a graph purely displaying a bar graph type thing showing PIPO values, the other (ScanDisc) displays red/orange/green squares that correspond to (chunks of) sectors on the disc. As we are interested in PIPO values, obviously the first one is useful and the second one isn't.

2. I don't understand.

Burn the disc in your LG.

Run the 'Disc Quality' test using your LiteOn. And by that I mean you should remove the freshly burnt disc from the LG drive and put it in your LiteOn.

The scanning abilities of the LG don't come into it.

The LiteOn is your scanning drive. You can burn the disc in any other drive you want to burn it in. I've probably got 60+ drives, but I've only ever scanned discs (when doing all the test scans for the forum) in a handful of them.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:20 AM

The drive that I use for burning is the liteon and disc quality, the lg I'm going to test jitter, pie, pif
 
What is your opinion about the chart and values pie, jitter, pif? I was told that pie and jitter are high

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:54 AM

You're going to burn a disc in the LG, take it out of the LG and put it into the LiteOn so you can then do the 'Disc Quality' test to get the PI/PO levels.

I was the one that told you they looked a little high. So yeah, I still think the same thing.
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Posted 21 December 2016 - 11:28 AM

MDisc is good and reliable and secure? It promises extreme durability optical media



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Posted 21 December 2016 - 04:44 PM

I have no real experience of MDisc discs. If they are readable to begin with (once you've burnt them), by design, they should still be readable later on... so that's good.
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