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2 brand new Blu-ray burners burn speed fluctuating...

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Hello!   I have been using IMG Burn forever and it has always been perfect.  However, something odd has started happening when I just got a new Blu-ray burner.  At first the burns seemed to go at full speed and do just fine.  Then, oddly, the burn speed would continuously cycle up and down evenly (go from '0' to full speed, then immediately begin to slow back to '0' and repeat until the burn is finished)   Since my new LG burner was doing that, I sent it back and got a Pioneer burner.  Like I mentioned, at first the first few burns seemed perfectly normal.  Now, strangely it is doing this speed fluctuation until finished.  Since both drives seemed to do the same thing, I switched the SATA cable from my other DVD drive which I don't use to the new drive, and again, the first few burns were fine, but now this constant fluctuation.

I'm kind of doubting that it is IMG Burn, but I have NO bloody idea what could be causing this out of the blue.  The burns SEEM to finish and play okay (I can't be sure unless I play the whole disc and files after burning)  but, obviously it takes at least twice as long with all the speeding up and down.

Any ideas...?

Thanks!

 

Here is the log:

 

I 14:19:59 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 14:19:59 Microsoft Windows 8 Enterprise x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)
I 14:19:59 Total Physical Memory: 7,810,636 KiB  -  Available: 1,106,776 KiB
I 14:19:59 Initialising SPTI...
I 14:19:59 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 14:19:59 -> Drive 1 - Info: DVDFab Virtual Drive 1.1 (H:) (SCSI)
I 14:19:59 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.10-ID61 (E:) (SATA)
I 14:19:59 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!
I 14:20:02 Operation Started!
I 14:20:02 Building Image Tree...
I 14:20:03 Calculating Totals...
I 14:20:03 Preparing Image...
I 14:20:03 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 14:20:03 Content Type: Data
I 14:20:03 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 14:20:03 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 14:20:03 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 14:20:03 Size: 23,342,977,959 bytes
I 14:20:03 Sectors: 11,397,940
I 14:20:03 Image Size: 23,343,857,664 bytes
I 14:20:03 Image Sectors: 11,398,368
I 14:20:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 14:22:02 Operation Started!
I 14:22:02 Building Image Tree...
I 14:22:02 Calculating Totals...
I 14:22:02 Preparing Image...
I 14:22:03 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 14:22:03 Content Type: Data
I 14:22:03 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 14:22:03 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 14:22:03 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 14:22:03 Size: 23,342,977,959 bytes
I 14:22:03 Sectors: 11,397,940
I 14:22:03 Image Size: 23,343,857,664 bytes
I 14:22:03 Image Sectors: 11,398,368
I 14:22:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 14:22:32 Operation Started!
I 14:22:32 Building Image Tree...
I 14:22:33 Calculating Totals...
I 14:22:33 Preparing Image...
I 14:22:33 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 14:22:33 Content Type: Data
I 14:22:33 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 14:22:33 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 14:22:33 Volume Label: ___MkvMerge
I 14:22:33 Size: 23,342,977,959 bytes
I 14:22:33 Sectors: 11,397,940
I 14:22:33 Image Size: 23,343,857,664 bytes
I 14:22:33 Image Sectors: 11,398,368
I 14:22:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:07
I 14:22:39 Operation Started!
I 14:22:39 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 14:22:39 Source File Sectors: 11,398,368 (MODE1/2048)
I 14:22:39 Source File Size: 23,343,857,664 bytes
I 14:22:39 Source File Volume Identifier: ___MkvMerge
I 14:22:39 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4D8572D000ADEC94
I 14:22:39 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 14:22:39 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 14:22:39 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 14:22:39 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.10 (E:) (SATA)
I 14:22:39 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: OTCBDR-002-000)
I 14:22:39 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 14:22:39 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392
I 14:22:39 Write Mode: BD
I 14:22:39 Write Type: DAO
I 14:22:39 Write Speed: MAX
I 14:22:39 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 14:22:39 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 14:22:39 Link Size: Auto
I 14:22:39 Lock Volume: No
I 14:22:39 Test Mode: No
I 14:22:39 OPC: No
I 14:22:39 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 14:22:39 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 35,960 KB/s (8x)
I 14:22:39 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No
I 14:22:41 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 14:22:41 Writing LeadIn...
I 14:22:51 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11398367)
I 14:22:51 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11398367)
I 14:41:11 Synchronising Cache...
I 14:41:12 Closing Track...
I 14:41:13 Finalising Disc...
I 14:41:33 Exporting Graph Data...
I 14:41:33 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.10_WEDNESDAY-DECEMBER-5-2018_2-22_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg
I 14:41:33 Export Successfully Completed!
I 14:41:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:54
I 14:41:33 Average Write Rate: 20,743 KiB/s (4.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 35,285 KiB/s (8.0x)

 

Oh yeah, I was just trying to do that .  Thanks kindly for the lightning fast reply!  :) 

I think I need to drag the file from the Owner/Application Data, etc folder to here.  I will try that...

 

The playback SEEMS to look okay on my OPPO player scanning through the first few minutes of each MKV file.  I'm guessing that whatever is happening, IMG Burn is seemingly keeping it all together (I HOPE!)  Just a weird phenomenon...


 

PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.10_WEDNESDAY-DECEMBER-5-2018_2-22_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg

Edited by latheofheaven
Adding Log & Graph files, etc...

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Sorry, I didn't see any way to 'reply' to my own topic.

Soooooo.... I get an answer 5 minutes after posting requesting that I include the log and graph data, which I did.  

And now, the next day, nothing....???

Uh, it would be kind of nice to get an answer now that I immediately supplied the information of which I was asked, if possible please...

Both the log and graph files are on my last post of the same name (except the 'pt. 2' :) )

Thank you!

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If I'm the last person to have replied to a thread, I'm not going to bother checking the thread again.

So... don't edit your posts, add an actual reply. Apologies if that wasn't possible.

I've now merged your two threads.

The graph data looks fine to me.  The drive is probably just adjusting itself as it burns - a form of 'WOPC'.

2018-12-06_23-40-56.png

You have really old firmware on your drive btw.

Update it here - https://www.firmwarehq.com/Pioneer/BDR-209D/files.html

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Thank you kindly!  I was thinking that among some other once in a while issues, perhaps the power supply needs to be replaced / upgraded.  I had added a few external HDDs, but they do have their own power.  The Hardware Monitor shows my PSU to be 11.8 for both Min / Max, so...  But, I will definitely update the firmware right away, appreciate that!  I'm going to include the graph for another burn that I did after that one; the playback on that disc is a bit wonky, BUT I am also having some trouble with my OPPO too.  I'll include the graph file here if I can.

PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.10_WEDNESDAY-DECEMBER-5-2018_2-22_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg

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As for the firmware update, you might want to check Pioneer's web site for a 1.51 firmware.  That web site ImgBurn checks does not list 1.51 firmware for my Pioneer BDR-2209/209M.  But, I did find newer firmware on Pioneer's website.  Look here:

https://pioneer.jp/device_e/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00001r_e.html

I think you'll want the firmware package for the BDR-209DBK listing for your drive.

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Uh, not to appear TOO terribly ignorant, sorry, but I've never had need to do this before...  But, if I check the 'Verify' box and burn a Blu-ray like I normally do, and it goes through it's speed up / slow down shenanigans (BTW, after the 1.51 update it does stay at full speed for several seconds now before slowing down, as opposed to before when it upon reaching full speed it immediately slowed down)  and it then verifies the burn and HOPEFULLY shows that it is okay (I've never done it or seen it, so I don't know...) then, can I assume if the verify goes well that the burn IS indeed for SURE okay...?

Thanks!

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Uh, not to appear TOO terribly ignorant, sorry, but I've never had need to do this before...  But, if I check the 'Verify' box and burn a Blu-ray like I normally do, and it goes through it's speed up / slow down shenanigans (BTW, after the 1.51 update it does stay at full speed for several seconds now before slowing down, as opposed to before when it upon reaching full speed it immediately slowed down)  and it then verifies the burn and HOPEFULLY shows that it is okay (I've never done it or seen it, so I don't know...) then, can I assume if the verify goes well that the burn IS indeed for SURE okay...?

Thanks!

Okay, I just burned another disc with the 'verify' box checked.  Here are the log and graph date (just to be SURE that I did it right and that someone who KNOWS what they are doing can tell me that this disc did indeed burn okay  :) )

 

I 16:56:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 16:56:49 Microsoft Windows 8 Enterprise x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)
I 16:56:49 Total Physical Memory: 7,810,636 KiB  -  Available: 1,045,768 KiB
I 16:56:49 Initialising SPTI...
I 16:56:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 16:56:49 -> Drive 1 - Info: DVDFab Virtual Drive 1.1 (H:) (SCSI)
I 16:56:49 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.51-ID61 (E:) (SATA)
I 16:56:49 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!
I 16:56:53 Operation Started!
I 16:56:53 Building Image Tree...
I 16:56:54 Calculating Totals...
I 16:56:54 Preparing Image...
I 16:56:54 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 16:56:54 Content Type: Data
I 16:56:54 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 16:56:54 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 16:56:54 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 16:56:54 Size: 24,950,625,870 bytes
I 16:56:54 Sectors: 12,182,925
I 16:56:54 Image Size: 24,951,521,280 bytes
I 16:56:54 Image Sectors: 12,183,360
I 16:56:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 16:56:55 Operation Started!
I 16:56:55 Building Image Tree...
I 16:56:57 Calculating Totals...
I 16:56:57 Preparing Image...
I 16:56:57 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 16:56:57 Content Type: Data
I 16:56:57 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 16:56:57 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 16:56:57 Volume Label: ___MkvMerge
I 16:56:57 Size: 24,950,625,870 bytes
I 16:56:57 Sectors: 12,182,925
I 16:56:57 Image Size: 24,951,521,280 bytes
I 16:56:57 Image Sectors: 12,183,360
I 16:56:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 16:56:58 Operation Started!
I 16:56:58 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 16:56:58 Source File Sectors: 12,183,360 (MODE1/2048)
I 16:56:58 Source File Size: 24,951,521,280 bytes
I 16:56:58 Source File Volume Identifier: ___MkvMerge
I 16:56:58 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4D86871B00B9E6ED
I 16:56:58 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 16:56:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 16:56:58 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 16:56:58 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.51 (E:) (SATA)
I 16:56:58 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: OTCBDR-002-000)
I 16:56:58 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 16:56:58 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392
I 16:56:58 Write Mode: BD
I 16:56:58 Write Type: DAO
I 16:56:58 Write Speed: MAX
I 16:56:58 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 16:56:58 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 16:56:58 Link Size: Auto
I 16:56:58 Lock Volume: No
I 16:56:58 Test Mode: No
I 16:56:58 OPC: No
I 16:56:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 16:56:58 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 35,960 KB/s (8x)
I 16:56:58 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No
I 16:56:59 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 16:57:00 Writing LeadIn...
I 16:57:10 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 12183359)
I 16:57:10 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 12183359)
I 17:18:52 Synchronising Cache...
I 17:18:53 Closing Track...
I 17:18:54 Finalising Disc...
I 17:19:14 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:19:14 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.51_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-6-2018_4-56_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg
I 17:19:14 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:19:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:22:16
I 17:19:14 Average Write Rate: 18,729 KiB/s (4.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 35,316 KiB/s (8.0x)
I 17:36:33 Operation Started!
I 17:36:33 Building Image Tree...
I 17:36:33 Calculating Totals...
I 17:36:33 Preparing Image...
I 17:36:34 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 17:36:34 Content Type: Data
I 17:36:34 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 17:36:34 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 17:36:34 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 17:36:34 Size: 24,950,625,870 bytes
I 17:36:34 Sectors: 12,182,925
I 17:36:34 Image Size: 24,951,521,280 bytes
I 17:36:34 Image Sectors: 12,183,360
I 17:36:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 17:58:52 Operation Started!
I 17:58:52 Building Image Tree...
I 17:58:52 Calculating Totals...
I 17:58:52 Preparing Image...
I 17:58:52 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 17:58:52 Content Type: Data
I 17:58:52 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 17:58:52 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 17:58:52 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 17:58:52 Size: 23,451,892,279 bytes
I 17:58:52 Sectors: 11,451,120
I 17:58:52 Image Size: 23,452,778,496 bytes
I 17:58:52 Image Sectors: 11,451,552
I 17:58:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 17:58:55 Operation Started!
I 17:58:55 Building Image Tree...
I 17:58:56 Calculating Totals...
I 17:58:56 Preparing Image...
I 17:58:56 Contents: 3 Files, 0 Folders
I 17:58:56 Content Type: Data
I 17:58:56 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 17:58:56 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 17:58:56 Volume Label: ___MkvMerge
I 17:58:56 Size: 23,451,892,279 bytes
I 17:58:56 Sectors: 11,451,120
I 17:58:56 Image Size: 23,452,778,496 bytes
I 17:58:56 Image Sectors: 11,451,552
I 17:58:57 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 17:58:57 Operation Started!
I 17:58:57 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 17:58:57 Source File Sectors: 11,451,552 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:58:57 Source File Size: 23,452,778,496 bytes
I 17:58:57 Source File Volume Identifier: ___MkvMerge
I 17:58:57 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4D868F5B00AEBC50
I 17:58:57 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 17:58:57 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 17:58:57 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 17:58:57 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.51 (E:) (SATA)
I 17:58:57 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: OTCBDR-002-000)
I 17:58:57 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 17:58:57 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392
I 17:58:57 Write Mode: BD
I 17:58:57 Write Type: DAO
I 17:58:57 Write Speed: MAX
I 17:58:57 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 17:58:57 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 17:58:57 Link Size: Auto
I 17:58:57 Lock Volume: No
I 17:58:57 Test Mode: No
I 17:58:57 OPC: No
I 17:58:57 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 17:58:57 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 35,960 KB/s (8x)
I 17:58:57 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No
I 17:58:58 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 17:58:59 Writing LeadIn...
I 17:59:11 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11451551)
I 17:59:11 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11451551)
I 18:19:00 Synchronising Cache...
I 18:19:01 Closing Track...
I 18:19:02 Finalising Disc...
I 18:19:22 Exporting Graph Data...
I 18:19:22 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.51_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-6-2018_5-58_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg
I 18:19:22 Export Successfully Completed!
I 18:19:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:20:25
I 18:19:23 Average Write Rate: 19,278 KiB/s (4.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 35,285 KiB/s (8.0x)
I 18:19:23 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 18:19:37 Device Ready!
I 18:19:39 Operation Started!
I 18:19:39 Source Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-209D 1.51 (E:) (SATA)
I 18:19:39 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: OTCBDR-002-000)
I 18:19:39 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 12x
I 18:19:39 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 18:19:39 Source Media Sectors: 11,451,552
I 18:19:39 Source Media Size: 23,452,778,496 bytes
I 18:19:39 Verify Against Image File: No
I 18:19:39 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 18:19:40 Read Speed - Effective: 5x - 12x
I 18:19:41 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11451551)
I 18:19:41 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11451551)
I 18:30:18 Exporting Graph Data...
I 18:30:18 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.51_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-6-2018_5-58_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg
I 18:30:18 Export Successfully Completed!
I 18:30:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:38
I 18:30:18 Average Verify Rate: 36,067 KiB/s (8.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 51,282 KiB/s (11.7x)

PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-209D_1.51_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-6-2018_5-58_PM_OTCBDR-002-000_MAX.ibg

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Unfortunately, the sad fact of the matter is a Verify is not a perfect condition for determining if a disc burned okay.  I just had a DVD+RW that burned and Verified okay, but would not play at all.  I burned the same image again to the same disc and the Verify failed that time, meaning the disc had reached the end of its write life.  It had reached the end of its write life on the previous burn but still completed Verify.  Some drives like the LG BD NS40 would complete Verifies okay but fail to play properly.  They'd reach a bad sector on a DVD+RW and immediately stop playing back.  

 

So, as much as it may be inconvenient, the only way you can really determine a good burn is to actually play all the contents.

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Hmmm... good to know!  I wonder if, though, there would be a direct comparison between Rewrites and one-writes?  Can one tell by the graph data above, though, if that burn SHOULD be okay...?

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While there are fundamental differences in the process of how each media is written, there's no difference in reading.  A bad read is a bad read, regardless of the media.

 

I once had a DVD+R DL that passed both Write and Verify, but failed to play back correctly for one sector.  In fact, that disc was the ONLY failure I ever had on a DVD+R DL that didn't immediately make itself manifest, e.g. with a failed Write or Verify.  e.g. a problem that wasn't directly related to media or a dying drive.

 

If you're just burning MKV files, there's no need to actually play the files to test them.  You can open a Command Prompt and use a command called COMP to compare the contents of the MKV files from their source folder against the contents on the disc you burned.  While it's more complicated, it takes less time than actually playing all the files.

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WOW!  Now, that is a great suggestion!  :D  I was not aware that there was a CMD line option to do this.  I will definitely look into that.  I also have a new power supply ordered; I should get it tomorrow.  I have an instinctive feeling (likely WRONG!) that somehow it might be a 'Power' issue, IDK...  Thank you very much for taking the time to explain and to help!  

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WOW!  Now, that is a great suggestion!  :D  I was not aware that there was a CMD line option to do this.  I will definitely look into that.  I also have a new power supply ordered; I should get it tomorrow.  I have an instinctive feeling (likely WRONG!) that somehow it might be a 'Power' issue, IDK...  Thank you very much for taking the time to explain and to help!  

Ah, got it!  :D 


C:\Windows\system32>fc "C:\Freejack.1992.1080  SONY.mkv" "E:\Freejack.1992.1080
 SONY.mkv"
Comparing files C:\Freejack.1992.1080  SONY.mkv and E:\FREEJACK.1992.1080  SONY.
MKV
FC: no differences encountered
 

I'm ASSUMING that that means the burn is okay, right?   Thanks!  That is a BIG help  :)   It takes roughly about 4 minutes + to compare the whole movie.  HOPEFULLY, that should solve any worries on my part then...

Thank you again!!!

 

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If it burnt and verified ok, the disc is 100% readable and matches the source image. Of course that only applies to the drive that verified the disc, others may not be able to read it.

 

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Yeah, I mean there's always a slim chance, very slim, that the parts of the disc that contain what you Verified wrote fine but the finer details might not be correct.  However, you're just being paranoid at that point, probably.  :)  A Verify that completes successfully and COMP's that compare contents successfully are like a 99% certification the disc burned okay.

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That's great guys, I really appreciate all the help!  Kind of curious though...  IMG Burn stopped being updated 5 years ago, why does this forum exist and how is it possible that really knowledgeable, helpful guys like you happen to be so handy...???  :) 

Is this just fan-based help...?

 

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Oh...  That must be what 'Author of ImgBurn' means...  :doh:

bloody Americans...  Well, it is super nice of you to continue to help people.  That is awesome mate!  respect.gif

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Development of ImgBurn still proceeds.  It's just at a slower pace as the author does have a life.  :wink:  And, yeah, we're just users turned helpers.  Well, some, like myself, started off as beta testers, but we still use the software.  And we help where we can.  LUK provides the vast majority of help, though, as he wrote the thing so he knows it better than we do.  :)

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Well, you guys are absolutely to be highly commended for doing that!  ImgBurn is clearly recognized as probably one of THE most important pieces of software of all time! (well, except that cute little program that puts bunny ears on celebrities... :) 

Deepest respect and thanks guys!  

 

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