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Hi there, I need some advice from you helfull chaps again.

Just got hold of a Pioneer 110D and Im not getting full write speed from the drive, ie. not getting 16x from a 16x disc. I used the firmware update on Imgburn, but when I try to flash I get a message saying "Hardware revision is not matched"

 

Ive just gone over to using Ridisc Xtreme 16x discs F1 dye, I have no problems with these discs using a NEC3540A drive burning at 16X.

 

Any advice would be very gratefully received.

Thanks. Dave.

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Ive just gone over to using Ridisc Xtreme 16x discs F1 dye, I have no problems with these discs using a NEC3540A drive burning at 16X.

 

I have had nothing but problems with these using a Plex 716A, good to see someone can use the damned things. :/

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Have you tried getting the firmware from here: http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2140

 

 

 

Yes Jmet, I used this.

Also to add, Im not getting very good read speeds either, maxing at around 11.5x.

Is there something really easy to this, I certainly hope so...

Thanks.

Dave.

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Ive just gone over to using Ridisc Xtreme 16x discs F1 dye, I have no problems with these discs using a NEC3540A drive burning at 16X.

 

I have had nothing but problems with these using a Plex 716A, good to see someone can use the damned things. :/

 

 

Well, like I said, No problems so far with the NEC, but with the Pioneer, really slow results. Im sure Taiyo would be the best option though, keep telling myself that, but its the cost that always swings it. Guess Im going to have to bite the bullet and go for the Taiyos.

 

Ive had some freezes with one or two of the F1 discs, but I put this down to the player they were played in as they played in a brand new cheapo player perfectly..... :/

 

Dave.

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Not sure what kind of speeds you are talking about (read or write) and expecting but, 11.5X (read speed) on a "Dual Layer" DVD is pretty darn good.

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Not sure what kind of speeds you are talking about (read or write) and expecting but, 11.5X (read speed) on a "Dual Layer" DVD is pretty darn good.

 

 

Sorry, should of clarified the info really. Im not using Dual Layer, Just Ridisc Xtreme f1 dye discs, I changed to these from using the Ridisc Xtreme 8x discs which I found 100% perfect, no coasters what so ever, thought these may be up to the same standard.

Well, with the NEC I can and do reach read and write speeds of 16x. The Pioneer is only (Only!) reaching a read speed of approx 11x (according to Alcohol) and a write speed of 12x (According to ImgBurn) Imgburn only supports these discs as 12x max, I was hoping the firmware update may sort this, but I just get it to work.

Im probably doing something really stoopid here, but cant see what the hell it is?

 

 

Dave

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You are using the right firmware yeah?

 

In case you don't know, there is a 110 and a 110D. Both have different capabilities (namely, DVDRAM support) and as such, have different firmware.

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You are using the right firmware yeah?

 

In case you don't know, there is a 110 and a 110D. Both have different capabilities (namely, DVDRAM support) and as such, have different firmware.

 

 

Lol, well, it did cross my mind, but I hope Im not quite that daft...yet!

I used the facility in Imgburn to link direct to the firmware update, but I will check it out again.

Cheers. LUK

 

 

Dave.

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If Pioneers own firmware flash util wont work for you, you could always try the dvrflash thingy.

 

I'll update mine in half hour when this bloody DVDRAM disc (test burn!) has finished going.

 

1x is soooooo slow!

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If Pioneers own firmware flash util wont work for you, you could always try the dvrflash thingy.

 

 

MMM, dont know quite why, but I was getting the wrong firmware update from the update facility on Imgburn, I got that sorted now to 1.37, but Imgburn is still only supporting these discs at 12x.

 

Thanks for the input on this chaps, its not a major problem as I mostly use the NEC to burn and got hold of the Pioneer for other stuff. It was buging me about the burn/read speeds. Guess I should have got a Plextor after all or another NEC, never had problems from the NEC drives Ive had.

 

If anyone can add anything that can help, please feel free. Thanks to those that already have. :thumbup:

 

Dave.

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try the 16x verbatims DasReich~Dave~ , no problems with them reaching 16x :)

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try the 16x verbatims DasReich~Dave~ , no problems with them reaching 16x :)

 

 

Hi m8, just PM'd you......

 

So you reckon the Pioneer will like the Verbatims?

What about Taiyos?

 

Might see if I can get some samples from SVP to test out........

 

 

Dave.

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well these verbatim discs have been out quite a while now so i would think that the pioneers firmware would be up to it

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well these verbatim discs have been out quite a while now so i would think that the pioneers firmware would be up to it

 

 

Cheers Corny, looks like I will be calling up SVP in the morning.... :D

 

 

Thnx

Dave.

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Imgburn is still only supporting these discs at 12x.

 

Dave.

 

Das its not IMGburn thats not supporting the 16x speed but the drive itself with those discs . IMGburn will burn at whatever speed but its the drive and the media compatibility that will determine the burn speed :thumbup:

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Imgburn is still only supporting these discs at 12x.

 

Dave.

 

Das its not IMGburn thats not supporting the 16x speed but the drive itself with those discs . IMGburn will burn at whatever speed but its the drive and the media compatibility that will determine the burn speed :thumbup:

 

 

Yea, I know what your saying, Its just the software I use 99% of the time now. With the verbatims I may well get 16x from it, let you know what happens.

Still dont get why I was getting linked to the wrong firmware update though.... :blink:

 

Neva mind, got there in the end. Thanks chaps.

 

Dave.

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Hi guys,

 

Unfortunately for us, Pioneer has made the hard and fast decision to cramp the RITEKF1 MID to 12x locked in descriptors. :(

 

As follows, is a dumpout of all the available descriptors/write strategy fields under the 1.37 firmware, on my 110D@A10XLA:

 

Media Information							
Region information									N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID										RITEKF1
UDF Format Type													 V1.02
UDF Volume Name													  None
UDF Application id												   None
UDF Implementation id												Nero
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)				  11/26/2005 20:29:39
Format Capacity											4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type														   DVD-R
Media Type														  DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed								  16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV 12.0x  16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed										4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta													  09
2x Speed OPC power													 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1									 15 87 88 90
2x Write Strategy field 2							   A8 82 00 20 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta													  06
4x Speed OPC power													 16
4x Write Strategy field 1									 10 14 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2									 94 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3									 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse										  09
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse										 1E
4x Write Strategy field 4									 17 A7 89 85
4x Write Strategy field 5							   B7 89 02 00 20 02
4x Write Strategy field 6								  00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector										  30000h
Data area end sector											  23127Fh
Linear Density												0.267um/bit
Track Density												0.74um/track
Number of Layers														1

					   Complete Media Code						   
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
00000010 87 88 90 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 46 00 04 31 00 00 .....RITEKF..1..
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0F 15 ................

 

Yeah, I think its unfortunate too. :(. They have done the same thing with CMCMAGE0.1, which should write @ 8x, but only writes @ 6x, in the DVR-110. They have their reasons, that said.

 

If you want some good 16x MID's for the drive, I recommend TYG03, MCC004, TTH02...etc.

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Hi guys,

 

 

:(. They have done the same thing with CMCMAGE0.1, which should write @ 8x, but only writes @ 6x, in the DVR-110. They have their reasons, that said.

 

If you want some good 16x MID's for the drive, I recommend TYG03, MCC004, TTH02...etc.

 

anyone thats been around here or the other proggy (sniff,sniff I'm still in mourning) will know that the reason CMCmag is limited is because it sucks if thats not reason enough I dont know what is :lol:

 

as for the verbs and the yudens they're A1 all I use now and no problems at all :thumbup:

Edited by polopony

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Hi guys,

 

Unfortunately for us, Pioneer has made the hard and fast decision to cramp the RITEKF1 MID to 12x locked in descriptors. :(

 

As follows, is a dumpout of all the available descriptors/write strategy fields under the 1.37 firmware, on my 110D@A10XLA:

 

Media Information							
Region information									N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID										RITEKF1
UDF Format Type													 V1.02
UDF Volume Name													  None
UDF Application id												   None
UDF Implementation id												Nero
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)				  11/26/2005 20:29:39
Format Capacity											4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type														   DVD-R
Media Type														  DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed								  16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV 12.0x  16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor						   CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed										4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta													  09
2x Speed OPC power													 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1									 15 87 88 90
2x Write Strategy field 2							   A8 82 00 20 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta													  06
4x Speed OPC power													 16
4x Write Strategy field 1									 10 14 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2									 94 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3									 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse										  09
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse										 1E
4x Write Strategy field 4									 17 A7 89 85
4x Write Strategy field 5							   B7 89 02 00 20 02
4x Write Strategy field 6								  00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector										  30000h
Data area end sector											  23127Fh
Linear Density												0.267um/bit
Track Density												0.74um/track
Number of Layers														1

					   Complete Media Code						   
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
00000010 87 88 90 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 46 00 04 31 00 00 .....RITEKF..1..
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0F 15 ................

 

Yeah, I think its unfortunate too. :(. They have done the same thing with CMCMAGE0.1, which should write @ 8x, but only writes @ 6x, in the DVR-110. They have their reasons, that said.

 

If you want some good 16x MID's for the drive, I recommend TYG03, MCC004, TTH02...etc.

 

 

Right, confirms it for def then this does.

Already to decided to follow cornys advice with the Verbatims, I dont have a problem burning the F1s on the NEC, but after seeing a report from corny on the burning I was amazed how flat the graph was on the burn report with the verbatims.

Thanks for all the help lads.

 

Dave.

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