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While I think I know the answer will be ("relocate the drive to the round recepticle on the floor next to corner of your desk") I'll ask just in case.

 

My Pioneer 108D has started playing funny buggers with DVD+RW discs. It won't let me burn to the discs because it thinks they aren't empty. If I format them it thinks it's worked, but then won't burn to them because it still thinks they aren't empty. If I format them on another burner (LiteOn on another PC), the Pioneer still reports it as containing data. It seems to be stuck on reporting the same session information regardless of which DVD+RW disc I put in.

 

e.g. A Blank & Formatted Disc - I'm almost certain never otherwise burnt to:

 

In Pioneer

 

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.20 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD+RW

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Formatted: Yes

Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

 

TOC Information:

Session 1...

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 2295104)

 

Physical Format Information (ADIP):

Disc ID: MKM-A02-00

Book Type: DVD+RW

Part Version: 2

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):

Book Type: DVD-ROM

Part Version: 1

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Current Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Preferred Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Maximum Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

In LiteOn

 

LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S YS0F (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD+RW

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Formatted: Yes

Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

 

Physical Format Information (ADIP):

Disc ID: MKM-A02-00

Book Type: DVD+RW

Part Version: 2

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):

Disc ID: MKM-A02-00

Book Type: DVD+RW

Part Version: 2

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Current Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Maximum Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Other DVD+RW discs that I've formatted, burnt to successfully, and re-formatted on the LiteOn report as containing data as above on the Pioneer (only the DISC ID is different). I've tried reflashing with various versions of genuine pioneer, piodata and gradius hacked firmware all with the same result. There seems to be no problems with DVD+R's currently and DVD+R DL's worked fine last week (none on hand atm). Drive itself is reporting as follows (DVD-ROM is virtual drive):

 

I 18:33:15 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started!

I 18:33:15 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 18:33:15 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB - Available: 636,980 KB

W 18:33:15 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

W 18:33:15 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 18:33:15 Initialising SPTI...

I 18:33:15 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 18:33:16 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW!

 

I tried uninstalling drive through Device Manager and having XP reinstall it during reboot - without any change to problem.

 

Filter driver check contained some additional lower class filters which I removed (nice addition to program btw LUK) - for the life of me I can't remember what they were now though.

 

===============================================

Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.2.0.0

===============================================

 

Upper Device Filter: redbook

Upper Class Filter: [None Found]

Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device

Lower Class Filter: [None Found]

Lower Device Filter: imapi

 

Filter Name: redbook

File Name: G:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys

File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver

Product Name: Microsoft? Windows? Operating System

Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180

Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Copyright: ? Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Filter Name: imapi

File Name: G:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys

File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver

Product Name: Microsoft? Windows? Operating System

Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180

Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Copyright: ? Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Is there anything else (Registry entries ?) that I could try deleting etc before I bin the drive ?

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Sorry, what does it say when you try to write to them?

 

Even if it does think there's data on them, it should just offer to overwrite it.

 

If it's not saying that, what is it saying? Any chance of a screenshot (or a log if it shows anything) ?

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I get a "This disc is not empty" message box with OK being the only button to click. On clicking this ImgBurn greys out the write button and the current profile shows as DVD-ROM in the device tab (where is previously showed as a DVD+RW). Doesn't matter whether I try build mode or iso write mode - same result.

 

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.20 (ATA)

Current Profile: DVD-ROM <----------------------------- was DVD-RW before write attempt

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: No

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

 

TOC Information:

Session 1...

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2295103)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 2295104)

 

Physical Format Information (ADIP):

Disc ID: OPTODISC-OP4-01

Book Type: DVD+RW

Part Version: 2

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):

Book Type: DVD-ROM

Part Version: 1

Disc Size: 120mm

Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps

Number of Layers: 1

Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)

Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit

Track Density: 0.74 um/track

First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608

Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711

Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Current Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Preferred Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

Maximum Format Capacity:

Sectors: 2,295,104

Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

 

The log doesn't appear to show anything useful

 

I 08:32:18 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started!

I 08:32:18 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 08:32:18 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB - Available: 634,032 KB

W 08:32:18 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

W 08:32:18 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 08:32:18 Initialising SPTI...

I 08:32:18 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 08:32:38 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW!

I 08:33:02 Operation Started!

I 08:33:02 Building Image Tree...

I 08:33:02 Checking Directory Depth...

I 08:33:02 Calculating Totals...

I 08:33:02 Preparing Image...

I 08:33:02 Checking Path Length...

I 08:33:02 Image Size: 4,431,314,944 bytes

I 08:33:02 Image Sectors: 2,163,728

I 08:33:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

 

Late night shopping tonight, so might go pick up a replacement and get it over and done with.

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Well, replaced the drive with a new LiteOn LH-18A1P and low and behold, the problem remained - so I guess my son has finally got himself a DVD burner for his PC.

 

Good news is I finally got everything working again fine after removing all burning software (Alcohol 120%, Nero, and ImgBurn), uninstalling all optical drives, rebooting and installing only ImgBurn. All I can guess is that something got screwed in O/S during a recent crash and uninstalling Alcohol or Nero has reset it (I'd already uninstalled and reinstalled ImgBurn as it was the only burning app that had been used or changed recently - upgrading to 2.2.0.0). I proved to myself that the O/S wasnt hiccuping at ImgBurn though by installing 2.1.0.0, making a successful burn on DVD+RW, then installing 2.2.0.0 and successfully burning another DVD+RW.

 

There should be an upside to this - my wife's LiteOn scans DL discs immensely better than the old Pioneer so I have high hopes for this one.

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