Darnn Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hi. I'm trying to burn a ps2 ISO on a DL disc. The web tells me I need to set the book type to DVD-ROM. I go to the change book type dialog, select NEC, and in both 'Drive (For DVD+R DL Media)' and in 'Drive (For DVD+R DL Media - Temporary)', the current setting is DVD-ROM. However, on the main screen, the book type is still DVD+R DL. My firmware version is NEC ND-3570A 1.11, it's an NEC drive, and the disc is RICOHJPN, the only one I was able to easily obtain here in the outback (Israel). Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 If you have set it to DVD-ROM, it will only show up as such after you burn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 for bitsetting support for single layer dvd+r disks, dual layer should be automatic?/default http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/NEC-ND-3570A/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 official NEC firmware only supports bitsetting for Dual Layer +R media it does not support single layer media(+R) .You could use Liggy and Dees firmware which is a modified NEC firmware and it will support bitsetting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 But, like I said in my post, it was a dual layer +R DVD (DVD+R DL). Alas, even after I burned it, it's identified as that rather than DVD-ROM. Is there a point in trying again with the same type of disc and the modified firmware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 in last recorded does it still say dvd+DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 you could use the L&D modified it wont hurt anything , or retry the settings again when you burn another DL, you should know that flashing it to a modified firmware voids whatever warranty the drive may have(pretty sure its up on that model) but the NEC can be flashed back to stock FW. I've flashed my 3500 a few times and restored it to original with binflash. Liggy and Dee specialize in the NEC's and do an excellent job can you post a log of the burn next time with all the info in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Huh. It does say DVD-ROM in Last Recorded. The disc doesn't work on my PS2, though there could be plenty of other reasons for that... Here's the log, anyway, in which the only mention of either DVD-ROM or DVD+R DL is that it says the destination media type is DVD+R DL: ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 - Log ; Friday, 09 March 2007, 16:44:05 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 12:49:29 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started! I 12:49:29 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:49:29 Total Physical Memory: 522,992 KB - Available: 67,276 KB I 12:49:29 Initialising SPTI... I 12:49:29 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:49:29 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW! I 15:47:35 Operation Started! I 15:47:35 Source File: C:\Metal Gear Solid 2-Substance\Disc1(Game)\MGS2-S Disc 1.ISO I 15:47:35 Source File Sectors: 3,082,912 (MODE1/2048) I 15:47:35 Source File Size: 6,313,803,776 bytes I 15:47:35 Source File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION I 15:47:35 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD-ROM GENERATOR I 15:47:35 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 15:47:35 Destination Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3570A 1.11 (G:) (ATA) I 15:47:35 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-02) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 15:47:35 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 15:47:35 Write Mode: DVD I 15:47:35 Write Type: DAO I 15:47:35 Write Speed: 2.4x I 15:47:35 Link Size: Auto I 15:47:35 Test Mode: No I 15:47:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 15:47:36 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,541,456 I 15:47:36 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 15:48:08 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 15:48:08 Writing LeadIn... I 15:48:10 Writing Image... I 15:48:10 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1541455) I 16:03:39 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1541456 - 3082911) I 16:19:49 Synchronising Cache... I 16:19:50 Closing Track... I 16:20:13 Finalising Disc... I 16:21:07 Image MD5: fe20d7ce516adfb47f2f15e1f172981f I 16:21:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:33:32 I 16:21:07 Average Write Rate: 3,246 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,543 KB/s (2.6x) I 16:44:03 Close Request Acknowledged I 16:44:03 Closing Down... I 16:44:03 Shutting down SPTI... I 16:44:04 ImgBurn closed! ; ; ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 - Log ; Friday, 09 March 2007, 12:38:29 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 12:27:18 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started! I 12:27:18 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:27:18 Total Physical Memory: 522,992 KB - Available: 59,904 KB I 12:27:18 Initialising SPTI... I 12:27:18 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:27:18 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD?RW! I 12:38:28 Close Request Acknowledged I 12:38:28 Closing Down... I 12:38:29 Shutting down SPTI... I 12:38:29 ImgBurn closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinningwheel Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Plce the newly completed disc in the drive, open IB and look at the right side window after it reads the disc, what does it tell you the disc is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 DVD+R DL, I'm afraid. Even though the Last Recorded is indeed DVD-ROM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 If it says 'DVD-ROM' in the last recorded section, that's correct and bitsetting has worked. You're worrying about nothing I expect the problem lies elsewhere with that particular game. It's not often you get DL PS2 games and when you do, you can't normally make copies of them. That of course is not something to discuss on this forum though, it's better suited to a PS2/Console forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Granted. Why does it erroneously report it as DVD+R DL, though? What it looks like to me, from my complete layman's perspective, is that it thinks it changes the book type to DVD-ROM, but actually doesn't. Since, like I said, the program reported the drive was set to change it to 'DVD-ROM' to begin with, but it didn't show up in the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 get dvdinfopro http://www.dvdinfopro.com/ install then click on media with the disc you wrote in the writer you wrote it in. then paste the info Media Information Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 CSS Protected No Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNID0 Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNID0 UDF Format Type V1.02 UDF Volume Name SIMPSONS_S8_D4_F1 UDF Application id UDF Implementation id DVD Shrink UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 1/29/2007 13:49:54 Format Capacity 7.93GB(8.52GB) Book Type DVD-ROM Media Type DVD+R DL Data area starting sector 30000h Data area end sector 3F795Fh Layer 0 end sector 22BD6Fh Linear Density 0.293um/bit Track Density 0.74um/track Number of Layers 2 Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path the same can be done from right hand panel in ImgBurn after you scroll down to bottom the problem is either with the brand of media or your ps2 or the fact that maybe that game knows what your trying to do actually just noticed the other post so check out the other forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 DVD+R DL, I'm afraid. Even though the Last Recorded is indeed DVD-ROM. what you're looking at is IB reporting that the media is in fact DL and that is correct ,when you burn the disc with bitsetting enabled it then makes it dvd-rom ,look at Spinners post . Take the disc you burned put it in whatever you use to read your discs with and from the IB window copy and paste the info so we all can also see, you do report its dvd -rom so the drive did its job and you're worrying about nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It doesn't matter what you're reading from various other parts of the program, the only one you should be looking at so far as bitsetting working/not working is concerned is the info in the 'Physical Format Information (Last Recorded)' section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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