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Hi from the new guy,

 

I've been backing up my DVD's for quite a while with much success using many different DVD + and - R blanks.

 

Recently I decided to go DL so I got a deal on a new HP 1040d dual burner...I thought life backing up movies was gonna be good...well so far, it's been pretty frustrating.

 

My first day out went great, made a backup of Mr. Brooks and it went smoothly...plays great in my players at home.

 

The steps I used was this:

 

DVD Shrink it for Main movie only...then let DVD Shrink open DVD Decryptor and I burned the first DL disc and it went great...end of story.

Fast forward to this weekend..I had two movies I wanted to get done..Oceans 13 and Superbad...no problem I thought...

 

Well I followed my same steps as before, but this time at about 1/3 into the burning to disc I got a big I/O error message...hmmm...well I tried again...same darn thing...I tried doing the other movie...DARN! same thing happening...and this went on and on and on...made at least 6-7 coasters before I gave up.

 

After a while I tried to go the ImgBurn route...made layer break...etc etc...burn time comes, BAM! disc gets killed 1/3 of the way into the burn. ARGHHHH!!!

 

So now I have both movies on my hard drive as .ISO files but am too scared to try anymore burns.

 

What am I doing wrong?? Is it REALLY a WHOLE batch of bad discs with just the ONE disc that worked out of 26 blanks???

 

Is there something different I must do to burn to DL vs. the old way I used to due single layers??

 

HELP!! :'(

 

Thanks again and sorry for being long winded...but this is majorly frustrating.

 

FYI:

 

Here'san error message that always pops up when I burn:

 

I 20:53:19 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!

I 20:53:19 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

W 20:53:19 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB

I 20:53:19 Initialising SPTI...

I 20:53:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 20:53:19 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 DVD-RAM/±RW!

I 20:54:49 Operation Started!

I 20:54:49 Source File: L:\OCEANS_THIRTEEN.ISO

I 20:54:49 Source File Sectors: 3,596,861 (MODE1/2048)

I 20:54:49 Source File Size: 7,366,371,328 bytes

I 20:54:49 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 20:54:49 Destination Device: [0:1:0] HP DVD Writer 1040d EH25 (F (ATA)

I 20:54:49 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)

I 20:54:49 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 20:54:49 Write Mode: DVD

I 20:54:49 Write Type: SAO

I 20:54:49 Write Speed: 4x

I 20:54:49 Link Size: Auto

I 20:54:49 Test Mode: No

I 20:54:49 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 20:54:49 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,799,984

I 20:54:49 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary, VOBU Boundary

I 20:55:47 Filling Buffer...

I 20:55:48 Writing LeadIn...

I 20:55:50 Writing Image...

W 20:58:51 Failed to Write Sectors 472256 - 472287 - Write Error

W 20:58:51 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 20:58:51 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 20:58:51 Retry Failed! - Invalid Address For Write

E 20:58:55 Failed to Write Sectors 472256 - 472287 - Write Error

I 20:58:55 Synchronising Cache...

I 20:58:56 Closing Track...

I 20:58:56 Finalising Disc...

E 20:58:56 Failed to Write Image!

E 20:58:56 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:07

I 20:58:56 Average Write Rate: 5,105 KB/s (3.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,591 KB/s (4.0x)

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I have just had a similar experience with single layers.

I had a cake of 50 1x-16x Memorex DVD-R discs.

I burnt more than 20 of them with no problem whatsoever.

Suddenly 8-10 coasters.

Bought a new cake of 50 1x-16x discs this time around Verbatim (TYG03).

I must have burnt more than 10 so far and no problems :).

Guess what dye/ink the Memorex were? RITEKF1...

Buy a single DL disc, try to choose a good disc NOT a good brand.

TY and Verbatim seems to be a good disk.

If it works its just a bad DVD cake lol.

Cheers

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I have just had a similar experience with single layers.

I had a cake of 50 1x-16x Memorex DVD-R discs.

I burnt more than 20 of them with no problem whatsoever.

Suddenly 8-10 coasters.

Bought a new cake of 50 1x-16x discs this time around Verbatim (TYG03).

I must have burnt more than 10 so far and no problems :).

Guess what dye/ink the Memorex were? RITEKF1...

Buy a single DL disc, try to choose a good disc NOT a good brand.

TY and Verbatim seems to be a good disk.

If it works its just a bad DVD cake lol.

Cheers

 

Yeah may have to get a couple singles and test the theory I guuess...sux how pricey the darn discs are...oh well in time they'll go down, just like the DVD-R single layers did..just takes a while I guess.

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YUP , it CAN be just down to bad discs :thumbup: and youve unfortunately got bad discs.

its not so much that you have a few bad ones amongst the pack, but the actual discs themselves.

 

we only recomend Verbatim for dual layer DV9 work, and they have to be the ones with the MKM-OO1 dye/ink. usually the ones that are a max of 2.4x , also make sure they are made in singapore and NOT India

 

In the meanwhile, see if you cna find any firmware updates for that drive, and you may be able to make use of any of the ritek discs you have left over, but make sure you go for verbatim next time

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YUP , it CAN be just down to bad discs :thumbup: and youve unfortunately got bad discs.

its not so much that you have a few bad ones amongst the pack, but the actual discs themselves.

 

we only recomend Verbatim for dual layer DV9 work, and they have to be the ones with the MKM-OO1 dye/ink. usually the ones that are a max of 2.4x , also make sure they are made in singapore and NOT India

 

In the meanwhile, see if you cna find any firmware updates for that drive, and you may be able to make use of any of the ritek discs you have left over, but make sure you go for verbatim next time

 

Great ideas, but how in the world can you tell where the discs come from unless you BUY them first?? :blink:

 

I can't find any place that even lists new firmware for this burner..HP doesn't list one at all..anyideas of where to go to get firmware for the HP 1040d?

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[Great ideas, but how in the world can you tell where the discs come from unless you BUY them first?? :blink:

i find the "Made in Singapore" label on the packaging is usually a bit of a giveaway :thumbup::rolleyes:

 

if you go for the 2.4x ones as opposed to anything faster, the chances are they was made in Singapore. not a garantee though

usually a reputable dealer will state where they was made and which dye is on them . if it doesnt state it on there store , email them the question .if your in Europe, look at svp.co.uk and read the info on each brand , they tell you the Manufactrers ID ( ink/dye code).

 

You could cross flash your HP to a Liteon ( which is what your drive actually is behind the HP badge) which has had a few firmware updates although it may void the warranty if you have to return it. personally I'd try verbatims first

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SUCCESS!!

 

I bought a 5 pack of HP discs today for a test and made a successful disc!! PHEW!!

 

Say bye bye to all my Memorex crapolla!

 

Thanks folks

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Guess the answer to your question is "YES".

 

Regards

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I bought a 5 pack of HP discs today for a test and made a successful disc!! PHEW!!

 

Congrats on the success, but odds are the dye is still CMag...same as the other rubbish only different. :whistling:

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post a log file of the HP discs after a successful burn.

 

The only HP dual layer discs i can find are CMC dye , got a feeling you will be saying goodbye to HP crapola as well very soon

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