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I need a media player other than Windows Media Player.
I am wondering what more experienced people are using.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:05 PM
vlc is flexible http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:48 PM
'Media Player Classic - Home Cinema' is good too.
You can get the latest SVN compiled editions from here: http://www.xvidvideo...cinema-x86-x64/
The real homepage is here: http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/
You can get the latest SVN compiled editions from here: http://www.xvidvideo...cinema-x86-x64/
The real homepage is here: http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:50 AM
LIGHTNING UK!, on 27 October 2009 - 02:48 PM, said:
'Media Player Classic - Home Cinema' is good too.
You can get the latest SVN compiled editions from here: http://www.xvidvideo...cinema-x86-x64/
The real homepage is here: http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/
You can get the latest SVN compiled editions from here: http://www.xvidvideo...cinema-x86-x64/
The real homepage is here: http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/
Please explain the difference in the "SVN compiled editions" and the version that is on the MPC-HC homepage.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:56 AM
SVN is just where the code that's being worked on that second gets put - so it has all the latest changes/fixes in it.
Someone downloads all the files from the SVN area and compiles them to make a new executable file.
So assuming the SVN files have been updated since the time of the last public release, the SVN compiled executable will be newer and in theory better.
Someone downloads all the files from the SVN area and compiles them to make a new executable file.
So assuming the SVN files have been updated since the time of the last public release, the SVN compiled executable will be newer and in theory better.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:51 AM
LIGHTNING UK!, on 29 October 2009 - 06:56 AM, said:
SVN is just where the code that's being worked on that second gets put - so it has all the latest changes/fixes in it.
Someone downloads all the files from the SVN area and compiles them to make a new executable file.
So assuming the SVN files have been updated since the time of the last public release, the SVN compiled executable will be newer and in theory better.
Someone downloads all the files from the SVN area and compiles them to make a new executable file.
So assuming the SVN files have been updated since the time of the last public release, the SVN compiled executable will be newer and in theory better.
One more question: If you are familiar with the SVN compilations, are they very buggy before they proceed to the public release?
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:04 AM
Well I've been using the ones off that site for ages now and haven't had any problems.
I just check back every now and then to update.
I just check back every now and then to update.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:29 AM
LIGHTNING UK!, on 30 October 2009 - 04:04 AM, said:
Well I've been using the ones off that site for ages now and haven't had any problems.
I just check back every now and then to update.
I just check back every now and then to update.
Great! I will go for it.
Thanks again for your advice.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:40 PM
I am still exploring getting MPC-HC.
Also, is MPC-HC just a stand-alone exe file or does it install in your system and registry? When updating with a new SVN version, do you install it over the top of the old version?
I am wondering if you just use the SVN version on its own, or if you use any of the codec packs like CCCP or K-lite. And, if so, which one do you like best.
Sure appreciate your help.
Also, is MPC-HC just a stand-alone exe file or does it install in your system and registry? When updating with a new SVN version, do you install it over the top of the old version?
I am wondering if you just use the SVN version on its own, or if you use any of the codec packs like CCCP or K-lite. And, if so, which one do you like best.
Sure appreciate your help.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:35 PM
What's there to explore?! Just download and install it. If for some weird reason you detest it, simply uninstall it.
The 'home cinema' part of MPC is basically its way of saying it already includes all the codecs (there is MPC and MPC Home Cinema).
MPC(-HC) is probably standalone but there are a few dlls in its program folder that I guess it uses at one time or another.
I just install over the top when I put new versions on.
No, I don't install CCCP or K-lite.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, AC3 Filter and CoreAVC... and that's it.
The 'home cinema' part of MPC is basically its way of saying it already includes all the codecs (there is MPC and MPC Home Cinema).
MPC(-HC) is probably standalone but there are a few dlls in its program folder that I guess it uses at one time or another.
I just install over the top when I put new versions on.
No, I don't install CCCP or K-lite.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, AC3 Filter and CoreAVC... and that's it.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:19 AM
Another vote here for MPC-HC.
As Lightning UK already said it's essentially standalone, the dll's are just extra language files and an icon file. It does write it's setting to the registry but if you've been "exploring" then you'll have noticed there's also an option to store settings to .ini file. I can't see the point of that on a local installation though but if you do feel so inclined to enable it I'd strongly suggest installing to a location other than Program Files (since I understand settings files are not supposed to be stored there).
No CCCP or K-lite here either.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, QT Lite and ffdshow (personal preference)... and that's it (I think)
P.S. and don't forget to update DirectX
As Lightning UK already said it's essentially standalone, the dll's are just extra language files and an icon file. It does write it's setting to the registry but if you've been "exploring" then you'll have noticed there's also an option to store settings to .ini file. I can't see the point of that on a local installation though but if you do feel so inclined to enable it I'd strongly suggest installing to a location other than Program Files (since I understand settings files are not supposed to be stored there).
No CCCP or K-lite here either.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, QT Lite and ffdshow (personal preference)... and that's it (I think)
P.S. and don't forget to update DirectX
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 03:51 AM
LIGHTNING UK!, on 30 October 2009 - 07:35 PM, said:
What's there to explore?! Just download and install it. If for some weird reason you detest it, simply uninstall it.
The 'home cinema' part of MPC is basically its way of saying it already includes all the codecs (there is MPC and MPC Home Cinema).
MPC(-HC) is probably standalone but there are a few dlls in its program folder that I guess it uses at one time or another.
I just install over the top when I put new versions on.
No, I don't install CCCP or K-lite.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, AC3 Filter and CoreAVC... and that's it.
The 'home cinema' part of MPC is basically its way of saying it already includes all the codecs (there is MPC and MPC Home Cinema).
MPC(-HC) is probably standalone but there are a few dlls in its program folder that I guess it uses at one time or another.
I just install over the top when I put new versions on.
No, I don't install CCCP or K-lite.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, AC3 Filter and CoreAVC... and that's it.
Thanks for the additional information.
Which source do you use for the AC3 Filter (there is a SourceForge and others)?
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 03:56 AM
jeff_nz, on 30 October 2009 - 09:19 PM, said:
Another vote here for MPC-HC.
As Lightning UK already said it's essentially standalone, the dll's are just extra language files and an icon file. It does write it's setting to the registry but if you've been "exploring" then you'll have noticed there's also an option to store settings to .ini file. I can't see the point of that on a local installation though but if you do feel so inclined to enable it I'd strongly suggest installing to a location other than Program Files (since I understand settings files are not supposed to be stored there).
No CCCP or K-lite here either.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, QT Lite and ffdshow (personal preference)... and that's it (I think)
P.S. and don't forget to update DirectX
As Lightning UK already said it's essentially standalone, the dll's are just extra language files and an icon file. It does write it's setting to the registry but if you've been "exploring" then you'll have noticed there's also an option to store settings to .ini file. I can't see the point of that on a local installation though but if you do feel so inclined to enable it I'd strongly suggest installing to a location other than Program Files (since I understand settings files are not supposed to be stored there).
No CCCP or K-lite here either.
I manually install Haali Media Splitter, QT Lite and ffdshow (personal preference)... and that's it (I think)
P.S. and don't forget to update DirectX
Thanks for the help.
I could not find DirectX in Add/Remove Programs. How do I tell which version that I have on the computer? I am running XP sp3. I notice that DirectX is a big download of 80mb. Is DirectX necessary for just viewing movies?
This post has been edited by greyowl: 31 October 2009 - 04:07 AM
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 07:46 AM
greyowl, on 31 October 2009 - 03:56 AM, said:
I could not find DirectX in Add/Remove Programs. How do I tell which version that I have on the computer? I am running XP sp3. I notice that DirectX is a big download of 80mb. Is DirectX necessary for just viewing movies?
Sorry, I just remembered the SVN version includes the latest DirectX dll in the program folder (d3dx9_) so it's probably not necessary to update it on your system after all, I was thinking of the stable version.
Not for viewing movies, it's my understanding MPC-HC is built on the latest DirectX SKD that's why the latest runtime is required for all it's features to function correctly.... and why there is a link (in red), on the page you downloaded the SVN version, to the Microsoft page with the DirectX updater. It only downloads the newer components that's why the download size is variable, it depends on your system.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:26 PM
Google 'AC3 Filter' and click the top link!
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:25 PM
Thanks again for the added information.
I updated the DirectX.
I am now deciding on the addons to go with MPC-HC. If I combine all of your preference, I would add Haali Media Splitter, Core AVC, AC3 filter, ffd show, and QT lite. Would these all work together ok, or would I need to pick between them for compatibility?
Thanks again for the help.
I updated the DirectX.
I am now deciding on the addons to go with MPC-HC. If I combine all of your preference, I would add Haali Media Splitter, Core AVC, AC3 filter, ffd show, and QT lite. Would these all work together ok, or would I need to pick between them for compatibility?
Thanks again for the help.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:13 AM
You probably won't need any of those additional filters or codecs as MPC-HC should be able to play most any video or audio format you throw at it all by itself..... it will use it's own internal filters in preference to any others installed on your system anyway unless you disable them in the options.
ffdshow duplicates most of MPC-HC's internal filters so you can skip that for starters unless you have a specific reason, like I said above it's just my personal preference (and habit I guess).
QT Lite replaces Quicktime (without the background processes and additional stuff), if you have Quicktime already and happy with it then that's another you can skip.
I would recommend Haali Media Splitter though, just remember that if you decide to install it then in MPC-HC options under Internal Filters you should disable the Matroska, MP4/MOV, MPEG PS/TS/PVA source filters so Haali will be used instead. Just a note, some people report problems with the shell extension enabled (for thumbnail previews) so I personally deselect it when installing Haali Media Splitter.
Then again if you never intend playing mkv, mp4 or ts files you can probably skip it also... you never really stated why you want another media player.
ffdshow duplicates most of MPC-HC's internal filters so you can skip that for starters unless you have a specific reason, like I said above it's just my personal preference (and habit I guess).
QT Lite replaces Quicktime (without the background processes and additional stuff), if you have Quicktime already and happy with it then that's another you can skip.
I would recommend Haali Media Splitter though, just remember that if you decide to install it then in MPC-HC options under Internal Filters you should disable the Matroska, MP4/MOV, MPEG PS/TS/PVA source filters so Haali will be used instead. Just a note, some people report problems with the shell extension enabled (for thumbnail previews) so I personally deselect it when installing Haali Media Splitter.
Then again if you never intend playing mkv, mp4 or ts files you can probably skip it also... you never really stated why you want another media player.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 03:38 PM
Jeff_nz,
Thank you so much for the explanation. It is really helpful because I know very little about this and want to learn.
I currently do not have any media players on my computer. So, I will take your advice and just use MPC-HC by itself til I see the need to add these other filters and codec.
I have a question about Haali Media Splitter. Does MPC-HC play these files (mkv, mp4 or ts files) also by itself? Is it just that Haali Media Splitter plays them better?
I do not have QuickTime on the computer. Will MPC-HC play QuickTime files by itself, or is it necessary to add the QT Lite? Again, is it just that QT Lite plays the files better?
Currently, I do not have an audio player either. What would be your recommendations here for something that is good, basic, and doesn't use a lot of system resources?
Thanks again for your help.
Thank you so much for the explanation. It is really helpful because I know very little about this and want to learn.
I currently do not have any media players on my computer. So, I will take your advice and just use MPC-HC by itself til I see the need to add these other filters and codec.
I have a question about Haali Media Splitter. Does MPC-HC play these files (mkv, mp4 or ts files) also by itself? Is it just that Haali Media Splitter plays them better?
I do not have QuickTime on the computer. Will MPC-HC play QuickTime files by itself, or is it necessary to add the QT Lite? Again, is it just that QT Lite plays the files better?
Currently, I do not have an audio player either. What would be your recommendations here for something that is good, basic, and doesn't use a lot of system resources?
Thanks again for your help.
This post has been edited by greyowl: 01 November 2009 - 03:39 PM
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 11:16 PM
greyowl, on 01 November 2009 - 03:38 PM, said:
I have a question about Haali Media Splitter. Does MPC-HC play these files (mkv, mp4 or ts files) also by itself? Is it just that Haali Media Splitter plays them better?
I guess the haali splitter can handle more complicated files and is also under current development (a new version is due out soon I believe) whereas the internal splitter is more basic and may stumble with certain files.
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I do not have QuickTime on the computer. Will MPC-HC play QuickTime files by itself, or is it necessary to add the QT Lite? Again, is it just that QT Lite plays the files better?
MPC-HC should still be able to play them okay by itself. Basically if you want to watch quicktime files embedded in web pages (i.e. outside MPC-HC) then you'd need Quicktime or QT Lite.
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Currently, I do not have an audio player either. What would be your recommendations here for something that is good, basic, and doesn't use a lot of system resources?
I'd suggest taking a look at foobar2000.
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