[greyowl]

Thanks again for the explanations.

I got enough information to proceed thanks to you.

All the best.

[scuzzy]

Hmm. I don't currently use the Haali Media Splitter, but you guys made it sound interesting enough to go and look for it ... so I did.

The Afterdawn "Introduction to Haali Media Splitter" page :
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/introduction_haali_media_splitter.cfm
makes it sound even more useful and indispensible - but then I looked at the Afterdawn download page for the software :
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/codecs_and_filters/haalimediasplitter.cfm
which has a rather dismal sequence of user comments, of which this is the gloomiest :

Haali is a sneaky SOB installing itself unknown to the user when it come packaged within other video software like FLV tag-alongs. Once on your system it is very difficult to remove. It tries to launch without permission whenever you simply browse a folder with video files in it. This uninvited launch crashes on Vista systems, two crashes for every video file in the folder.

The crashes seem harmless, only affecting the unwanted launch of Haali Media Splitter. However, it is disgusting to have to keep clicking "OK" buttons to kill the crash.

Normal uninstall techniques do not work as it has no "Add/Remove Software" listing and removing its thirty-something registry entries does not work either. It re-installs itself within seconds.

Save yourself a lot of grief and do not install Haali or any software based upon Haali engines.

A piss-poor product that acts more like a Trojan than useful video editing software.

I tend to set a lot of store by what I read at Afterdawn, so this user's comment is a bit of a stunner. Then again, I don't suppose LUK would willingly giving hooligan software house-room on his systems.

Clearly the user is complaining about a poor uninstallation "experience" (sorry, I hate using that word), and doesn't comment on the quality of the software's actual main functionality - so does anyone else here have any comments about the "good manners" and "neighbourliness" of the software ?

Cheers

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I get an entry called 'Haali Media Splitter' in 'Programs and Features' (a.k.a. 'Add / Remove Programs') in Control Panel - so no issue there.

I've never had it crash on me - obviously it would be straight off my system if it did!

[greyowl]

I noticed those complaints on AfterDawn, but assumed that was a problem with an older version since they were dated Dec/08 and Jan/09.

[greyowl]

LIGHTNING UK!, on 30 October 2009 - 11:35 PM, said:

What's there to explore?! Just download and install it. If for some weird reason you detest it, simply uninstall it.

The 'home cinema' part of MPC is basically its way of saying it already includes all the codecs (there is MPC and MPC Home Cinema).

MPC(-HC) is probably standalone but there are a few dlls in its program folder that I guess it uses at one time or another.

I just install over the top when I put new versions on.

No, I don't install CCCP or K-lite.

I manually install Haali Media Splitter, AC3 Filter and CoreAVC... and that's it.

If I use either AC3 Filter or CoreAVC, which items in MPC-HC do I disable.

Thanks for the help

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I uncheck the Matroska source filter and the 4 H264/VC1 transform filters.

CoreAVC is set as the preferred filter in its own settings and I also turn on the tray icons - so I can easily see when it's being used/not being used.

AC3 Filter just gets inserted in the graph regardless - but that too depends on its own settings.

[greyowl]

LUK,

Thank you for the added information.

I am considering using CoreAVC, but in the installation process, it says it requires a "NVIDIA CUDA enabled card and NVIDIA video drivers". My Dell labtop has a "Mobility Radeon 9000" video. So, does this mean that CoreAVC will not work on my laptop?

Thanks for the help.

[greyowl]

jeff_nz, on 01 November 2009 - 10:13 AM, said:

You probably won't need any of those additional filters or codecs as MPC-HC should be able to play most any video or audio format you throw at it all by itself..... it will use it's own internal filters in preference to any others installed on your system anyway unless you disable them in the options.

ffdshow duplicates most of MPC-HC's internal filters so you can skip that for starters unless you have a specific reason, like I said above it's just my personal preference (and habit I guess).

QT Lite replaces Quicktime (without the background processes and additional stuff), if you have Quicktime already and happy with it then that's another you can skip.

I would recommend Haali Media Splitter though, just remember that if you decide to install it then in MPC-HC options under Internal Filters you should disable the Matroska, MP4/MOV, MPEG PS/TS/PVA source filters so Haali will be used instead. Just a note, some people report problems with the shell extension enabled (for thumbnail previews) so I personally deselect it when installing Haali Media Splitter.

Then again if you never intend playing mkv, mp4 or ts files you can probably skip it also... you never really stated why you want another media player.

Jeff_nz,

I installed Haali Media Splitter and noticed that it provides support for AVI as well. You did not mention AVI as one of the items to disable in MPC-HC. So, do you prefer the filters in MPC-HC for the AVI files?

Thanks again.

[jeff_nz]

Basically MPC-HC's internal avi splitter works just fine, as does Windows own built-in one, so you have two choices already. AVI support is not selected during a default install of Haali Media Splitter (probably because it's redundant) and I'm not aware of any reason to change that.

This post has been edited by jeff_nz: 03 November 2009 - 10:43 PM

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I doubt CoreAVC *only* works on Nvidia cards and support for acceleration via CUDA is a new feature so that's definitely not a requirement at all.

Are you sure it doesn't just say that the special CUDA acceleration requires a card supporting CUDA(which must be Nvidia as it's their tech) and drivers that support it too (make the API available for apps to use) ?