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#1 needsleepnow

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 01:24 AM

Hello;

I am a new user to the forums :D


I recently purchased an original Playstation from ebay and had an acquaintance place a Mod chip inside. I am having issues with skipping, and lag, and endless "loading" loops. My burning program of choice, of course, is imgburn and I have the latest version. It appears like my drive can only go as slow as 8x when it comes to CD-R images (which is my first problem)

I tried two different brands of media, Sony and HP. I got slightly better success burning with the HP than the Sony, which shocked me...

Anywho, my questions are these
1) Would I really benefit to going to a better media? or is HP acceptable? If not, what brand would(s) would you say are acceptable for my purpose.
2) Would I benefit from getting a new burner? If so, what would you recommend that would burn the discs as slow as possible? If you are unable to assist me with that, can you provide some websites that I can do some research on the minimum speed of burners?

Before I forget, here is information on my burner
SONY DVD RW DRU-190A 1.65 (ATA)
Current Profile: CD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 359,847
Free Space: 736,966,656 bytes
Free Time: 79:59:72 (MM:SS:FF)
Next Writable Address: 0
Supported Write Speeds: 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x

ATIP Information:
Disc ID: 97m24s16f
Manufacturer: Sony Corp.
Start Time of LeadIn: 97m24s16f
Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 79m59s74f

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 1,412 KB/s (8x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 2,823 KB/s (16x)
Descriptor 3...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
Descriptor 4...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 5,645 KB/s (32x)
Descriptor 5...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 7,057 KB/s (40x)
Descriptor 6...
-> B0: 0x08, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)
-> RS: 1,412 KB/s (8x) - WS: 8,468 KB/s (48x)

Thanks for your time :)

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 01:41 AM

The slowest speed doesn't always result in a better burn, so you should try burning at 16x and 24x to test them out. Did you leave Verify enabled? That's what tells you if the disc was a good burn or not.

As for CD-R media, Taiyo Yuden is the best you can get, and you can usually find it in online shops. A good quality new burner could help too.

Now, on another note, you do know that you can play PS1 games on a PS2 console and even on your computer, right? At least in my opinion, it isn't worth all the trouble for the PS1's finicky reader drive.

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 02:23 AM

I 22:07:54 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
I 22:07:54 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 22:07:54 Total Physical Memory: 2,087,404 KB - Available: 866,644 KB
I 22:07:54 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:07:54 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:07:54 -> Drive 1 - Info: SONY DVD RW DRU-190A 1.65 (D:) (ATA)
I 22:07:54 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 22:08:20 Operation Started!
I 22:08:20 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\Tim-Tim\Desktop\Contra - Legacy of War (USA)\Contra - Legacy of War (USA).cue
I 22:08:20 Source File Sectors: 199,325 (MODE2/FORM1/2352)
I 22:08:20 Source File Size: 468,812,400 bytes
I 22:08:20 Source File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION
I 22:08:20 Source File File System(s): ISO9660
I 22:08:20 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-190A 1.65 (D:) (ATA)
I 22:08:20 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s16f, Sony Corp.) (Speeds: 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x)
I 22:08:20 Destination Media Sectors: 359,847
I 22:08:20 Write Mode: CD
I 22:08:20 Write Type: SAO
I 22:08:20 Write Speed: 24x
I 22:08:20 Lock Volume: Yes
I 22:08:20 Test Mode: No
I 22:08:20 OPC: No
I 22:08:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:08:21 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
I 22:08:22 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 22:08:26 Writing LeadIn...
I 22:08:44 Writing Session 1 of 1... (12 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 199324)
I 22:08:44 Writing Track 1 of 12... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 31622)
I 22:09:02 Writing Track 2 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 31623 - 48156)
I 22:09:12 Writing Track 3 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 48157 - 65062)
I 22:09:21 Writing Track 4 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 65063 - 81628)
I 22:09:30 Writing Track 5 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 81629 - 99971)
I 22:09:40 Writing Track 6 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 99972 - 115655)
I 22:09:49 Writing Track 7 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 115656 - 132692)
I 22:09:59 Writing Track 8 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 132693 - 147921)
I 22:10:07 Writing Track 9 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 147922 - 161248)
I 22:10:15 Writing Track 10 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 161249 - 176731)
I 22:10:23 Writing Track 11 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 176732 - 192804)
I 22:10:32 Writing Track 12 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 192805 - 199324)
I 22:10:36 Synchronising Cache...
I 22:10:51 Exporting Graph Data...
I 22:10:51 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Tim-Tim\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-190A_1.65_TUESDAY-APRIL-06-2010_10-08_PM_97m24s16f_24x.ibg
I 22:10:51 Export Successfully Completed!
I 22:10:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:30
I 22:10:51 Average Write Rate: 4,087 KB/s (23.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,672 KB/s (27.1x)
I 22:10:51 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 22:10:58 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 22:11:09 Device Ready!
I 22:11:11 Operation Started!
I 22:11:11 Source Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-190A 1.65 (D:) (ATA)
I 22:11:11 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s16f) (Speeds: 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x)
I 22:11:11 Image File: C:\Documents and Settings\Tim-Tim\Desktop\Contra - Legacy of War (USA)\Contra - Legacy of War (USA).cue
I 22:11:11 Image File Sectors: 199,325 (MODE2/FORM1/2352)
I 22:11:11 Image File Size: 468,812,400 bytes
I 22:11:11 Image File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION
I 22:11:11 Image File File System(s): ISO9660
I 22:11:11 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 22:11:21 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (12 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 199324)
I 22:11:21 Verifying Track 1 of 12... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 31622)
W 22:12:01 Miscompare at LBA: 19352, Offset: 974, File: \STR\INTRO.STR
W 22:12:01 Device: 0x7F
W 22:12:01 Image File: 0xF4
W 22:12:01 Total Errors in Sector: 547
I 22:12:01 Verifying Sectors...
I 22:12:15 Verifying Track 2 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 31623 - 48156)
I 22:12:23 Verifying Track 3 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 48157 - 65062)
I 22:12:31 Verifying Track 4 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 65063 - 81628)
I 22:12:39 Verifying Track 5 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 81629 - 99971)
I 22:12:47 Verifying Track 6 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 99972 - 115655)
I 22:12:54 Verifying Track 7 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 115656 - 132692)
I 22:13:00 Verifying Track 8 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 132693 - 147921)
I 22:13:06 Verifying Track 9 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 147922 - 161248)
I 22:13:11 Verifying Track 10 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 161249 - 176731)
I 22:13:17 Verifying Track 11 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 176732 - 192804)
I 22:13:22 Verifying Track 12 of 12... (AUDIO/2352, LBA: 192805 - 199324)
I 22:13:25 Exporting Graph Data...
I 22:13:25 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Tim-Tim\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-190A_1.65_TUESDAY-APRIL-06-2010_10-08_PM_97m24s16f_24x.ibg
I 22:13:25 Export Successfully Completed!
I 22:13:25 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:13
I 22:13:25 Average Verify Rate: 3,692 KB/s (24.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 6,689 KB/s (44.6x)


Tried burning the game and verified it, and that is what i'm getting...I notice errors right off the bat; So I definitely should invest in some Taiyo Yuden discs at minimum. Upon searching, I noticed that there are a few different types of Taiyo Yuden discs...would any of them be acceptable or is one better than another?

What burner would u recommend for the purposes of burning PS1/PS2 games?


And yes, I do know that I can play PS1 games off of my PC...however, my PC would seriously need to be upgraded in order for that to take place...It can't even handle the new Nintendo Emulators fully framed out.

Edit: I'll let you know how the game played

Edit 2: It doesn't hang like it does, but there are still some glaring issues...Going to try to burn it faster...Thanks for your help, and any info as to what is a good burner now a days would be helpful :D

Edited by needsleepnow, 07 April 2010 - 02:30 AM.


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Posted 07 April 2010 - 02:36 AM

I'm not sure which new burner would be better for CDs but take a look over at cdfreaks and their tests with CD media writing quality ;)

As for Taiyo Yuden media, are you sure you were looking at CD-Rs and not DVD-R/DVD+R?

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 03:07 AM

Well, just a recap, I burned the same game at 48x, which is the max, and It turned out before than before :D. I would have never thought to burn as fast as possible! I really appreciate your help with everything, you are awesome!!

As for Taiyo Yuden media, are you sure you were looking at CD-Rs and not DVD-R/DVD+R?


http://www.supermediastore.com/category/u/blank-recordable-c...O YUDEN&filter=Capacity=700MB|

I notice that there is a JVC TY line, a thermal lacquer line, a value line, etc...Which one would be best, or does it really matter?

Edited by needsleepnow, 07 April 2010 - 05:43 AM.





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