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Pioneer DVR-X152 Not Recognized as Writer in XP


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#1 NateTut

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 07:09 PM

Hi;
I have a Pioneer DVR-X152 external USB DVD recorder. I use it with no problems on my Vista laptop at home. I'm trying to use it on my XP box at work and ImgBurn isn't recognizing it as a Writer. Also the built in XP CD/DVD burning doesn't seem to work either.

I'm not getting any error messages. The device appears to be OK in the Device Manager. There were no drivers to install on Vista, it worked right out of the box. I did find a firmware upgrade but it didn't recognize the drive either.

Any suggestions?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:05 PM

Can you see the drive in explorer?

Please copy + paste everything from the log window (enable it in the 'View' menu if it's not already visible).
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:25 PM

Can you see the drive in explorer?

Please copy + paste everything from the log window (enable it in the 'View' menu if it's not already visible).

Yes the drive is visible in Explorer and at least CDs are readable in it (I don't have any DVDs that aren't blank with me to test).

Here's the stuff from the log. The drive in question is D:

I 13:53:21 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!
I 13:53:21 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 13:53:21 Total Physical Memory: 785,840 KB - Available: 95,196 KB
I 13:53:22 Initialising SPTI...
I 13:53:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
E 13:53:24 CreateFile Failed! - Device: '\\.\CdRom1' (D:)
E 13:53:24 Reason: Access is denied.
E 13:53:27 CreateFile Failed! - Device: '\\.\CdRom2' (E:)
E 13:53:27 Reason: Access is denied.
W 13:53:27 Errors were encountered when trying to access 2 drives.
W 13:53:27 These drives will not be visible in the program.
E 13:53:27 You need Administrative privileges to use SPTI.
W 13:53:27 No devices detected!

Edit: Fixed a typo

Edited by NateTut, 17 April 2008 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:27 PM

Ok, does that 2nd from last log entry mean anything to you?

Are you actually configured to be an admin user on your machine?

If you are, it must mean something else has a hold of the drive - typically that's what packet writing software does... InCD and DragToDisc etc.
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:46 PM

Ok, does that 2nd from last log entry mean anything to you?

Are you actually configured to be an admin user on your machine?

If you are, it must mean something else has a hold of the drive - typically that's what packet writing software does... InCD and DragToDisc etc.

No I do not have Admin rights, unfortunately. What is "SPTI" and do I need it?

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:56 PM

It's what the program uses to talk to your drives. It stands for 'SCSI Pass Through Interface'. It's part of Windows but MS locked it down so only Admin users can use it on XP... it's open to everyone on Vista I think.

If you can't use SPTI then you'll need to install another I/O interface from the available options:

ASPI
ASAPI
SPTI (we already know this doesn't work)
ElbyCDIO
Patin Couffin.

You'll still need to be an Admin user to install those though so perhaps you're out of luck?

There is one other thing you can try (in order to get SPTI working) and that's detailed in the FAQ. Again, you'll still need to be admin though!
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:23 PM

It's what the program uses to talk to your drives. It stands for 'SCSI Pass Through Interface'. It's part of Windows but MS locked it down so only Admin users can use it on XP... it's open to everyone on Vista I think.

If you can't use SPTI then you'll need to install another I/O interface from the available options:

ASPI
ASAPI
SPTI (we already know this doesn't work)
ElbyCDIO
Patin Couffin.

You'll still need to be an Admin user to install those though so perhaps you're out of luck?

There is one other thing you can try (in order to get SPTI working) and that's detailed in the FAQ. Again, you'll still need to be admin though!

Well thanks for all your help. I've struck with all of the above options. I did find an asapi.dll do you know where that needs to go? I tried it in the ImgBurn directory but that didn't seem to work. Everything else failed because I don't have admin access.

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:33 PM

Found one other trick. But you need to be admin to set it up. :(

In administrator mode, Start, Run, MMC
Console Menu, Add/Remove Snap-in
Add.
Group Policy
(Group Policy will be shown as “Local Computer Policy”. Actually, if your computer receives its policies from a network server, it won’t show and you’ll have to set it directly on the server, ask your admin then. )
Ok
On the tree, Console Root, Local Computer Policy, Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, Security Options
Find “Restrict CD-ROM access to locally logged-on user only”. It should be disabled by default. Enable it.
No need to reboot, when quitting MMC, no need to save.
What this does is allow any local software to lock the drive for exclusive use. What this removes is the ability to use the CD-Rom as a Terminal Services client.


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Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:37 PM

I did find an asapi.dll do you know where that needs to go? I tried it in the ImgBurn directory but that didn't seem to work. Everything else failed because I don't have admin access.

Use the download page/installers on this page:

http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:43 PM

That 'trick' is the one in the FAQ Cynthia :)

Basically you're stuck unless you can get admin access of some sorts.
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:48 PM

Guess it's high time for me to read the FAQ thread. :bag:

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 11:23 PM

Yeah! And to lower your "suggestion success rate" BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH =)) :D :D

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 12:45 PM

I've spent the best part of 2 hours messing on with a guest account to get access to I/O eg Spti in XP without admin.


Thought I had it but hit snags

Maybe someone else can spot something I may have overlooked.

Here's what I tried


type gpedit.msc in start/run

then windows settings / security settings / local policies / security option

Enable Device : Restrict CD-ROM access to locally logged-on user only (this works for guest after log off) but you have to have admin rights in the first instance to edit this with gpedit.msc (you can use gpedit without admin but cannot alter this value)

Enabling this sort of sets registry value below

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SeCEdit\Reg Values\MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/Winlogon/AllocateCDRoms]
"ValueType"=dword:00000001
"DisplayType"=dword:00000000
"DisplayName"="Devices: Restrict CD-ROM access to locally logged-on user only_@scii"


which I exported to reg file (I stuck @scii at end of description to check if display name altered to make sure I had right key/entry in regedit)

Trouble is importing/merging that reg file in with guest account fails as not all of the key is imported and even if it was imported fully that reg key must not be the be all and end all of setting enabled in gpedit) cos even if I reset to disable in my admin account(with gpedit) and then import reg key where value is 1 enabled it does not when logging off and logging on to guest account give me access to CdRom access like setting the value to enabled with secedit (gpedit)


[edit] maybe guest account is diff to actually creating another user, might try again when I get back from where I'm going.

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 01:24 PM

Only administrators have write permissions on the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE' branch.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:52 PM

Yeah I know.

Still if that reg would have worked it would save admin gpedit to allow cdrom from user(guest etc) but I cannto get reg key to work that way anyways.

starburner I believe allows SPTI without admin unless I read it wrong last time I looked. ISO buster mentions it or one of the other ISO tools.

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:08 PM

Yeah I know.

Still if that reg would have worked it would save admin gpedit to allow cdrom from user(guest etc) but I cannto get reg key to work that way anyways.

starburner I believe allows SPTI without admin unless I read it wrong last time I looked. ISO buster mentions it or one of the other ISO tools.

I have found a copy of asapi.dll. Does anyone know how I can get it to be used to enable ASAPI?

Everything else I have tries I run into the admin rights barrier...

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:12 PM

I'm sure that whatever it does is just the same thing you've been trying. All these methods require you to be admin to change a setting or install another driver than can then be accessed by (or allow access to) 'normal' users.

I have to assume this is a work pc or something and so that's not likely to happen.

Course the easiest thing would just be to reset the local admin password via any number of the available dos tools, install the drivers and be done with it!
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:16 PM

The asapi.dll isn't enough, you need the sys file and/or vxd too and again they both need to be registered properly as an admin user.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:29 PM

The asapi.dll isn't enough, you need the sys file and/or vxd too and again they both need to be registered properly as an admin user.

I was afraid of something like that. Thanks for all the help.

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 04:00 PM

After messing on a bit more I managed to figure out key to enable SPTI for non ADMIN eg for guest account from a registry entry however You need ADMIN to merge into registry (quicker than going through Gpedit or MMC though) not much good to poster but maybe trick admin into merging:D



Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"allocatecdroms"="1"

Attached File  guest_spti.reg   290bytes   332 downloads




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