Had a couple stop errors happen so far on my new computer. First was when I was trying out Far Cry, but I had every setting cranked, and I thought at the time it was probably just an unstable setting on the game. But I just had it happen now, and Microsoft has no idea. When it goes, it just goes black, no BSD, fans all speed up like they do when coming out of low power/heat setting. And she restarts. Cock.


Error caused by a device driver

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Error report summary

Error type : Windows stop error (A message appears on a blue screen with error code information)
Solution available? : No (see Next steps)
What does this error mean? : Windows has encountered an error from which it cannot recover and needs to restart
Cause : Unknown device driver
Computer symptoms : A message appears on a blue screen with error code information (for example: e.g. 0x0000001E, KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED)
Additional steps for you to take : Important: Please continue to send error reports so analysts at Microsoft can study and try to correct the problem as quickly as possible

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You received this message because a device driver installed on your computer caused the Windows operating system to stop unexpectedly. This type of error is referred to as a "stop error." A stop error requires you to restart your computer.

Next steps

We have analyzed your error report and at this time are unable to determine the exact cause of the error. However, Microsoft will continue to analyze this error report to try to determine the specific cause of the error. If we are able to find the cause and correct it, and you encounter the same problem, you will receive an updated response that includes instructions for resolving the problem.

Grain, this is going to sound so lame but what size power supply do you have in her. I'm sure its adequate if you built her yourself but I had the same symptoms a few months back and after much friging around bought a new PSU and everything operated normally again. This is just a stab in the dark to try to help you out.



I received the same response from microsoft after sending them the error report, used safe mode to start everything one by one and that did no good. Assumed no device driver conflict, thats when I went the route of PSU. Yours being brand new though................ unless its a faulty power supplu unit.........

It's a 620 watt Enermax, so that should be more than enough. Possibly faulty though. I'll have to find a good fan speed and current output monitor software of some sort. Asus always has a decent PCProb with their MB's, MSI doesn't seem to have it.

Grain: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php



http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php





Maybe thesae two apps are what you're looking for.

Hey, I kid you not! Pain_Man can back me up. I actually received an error dialog window that said:

"Error

The operation completed successfully."

Check and see if you're getting minidump files in c:\windows\minidumps.

If you are, you can analyse them with Microsoft's debug utility.

You can also try messing with the Dr Watson program (drwtsn32.exe) to get some additional debug info.

Got 3 files in the minidump folder, Doc Watson doesn't give any info on them though. Where can I find Microsofts debug program?

http://thestarman.dan123.com/asm/debug/debug.htm#NT Grain, does this help?

This is the one you want:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/deb...ng/default.mspx

grain,
post an everest overclock report quick txt
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

--------[ EVEREST Home Edition © 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------

Version EVEREST v2.20.405
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer HOME-A4BAC1C55B (beast)
Generator bob
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2006-06-05
Time 15:29


--------[ Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64
CPU Alias Venice S939
CPU Stepping DH-E3
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3000+
CPUID Revision 00020FF0h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2519.62 MHz
CPU Multiplier 9.0x
CPU FSB 279.96 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 40%)
Memory Bus 251.96 MHz

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-1408-000001-00101111-063005-K8T800P$A0036001_BIOS DATE: 06/30/05 17:34:14 VER: 08.00.09
Motherboard Name Asus A8V Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2.5-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1: Micron Tech. 256 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-10 @ 250 MHz) (2.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: Micron Tech. 256 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-10 @ 250 MHz) (2.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 06/30/05
Video BIOS Date 04/08/11
DMI BIOS Version 1014.008

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9600 XT (RV360)
GPU Code Name RV360 (AGP 8x 1002 / 4152, Rev 00)
GPU Clock 500 MHz (original: 500 MHz)
Memory Clock 297 MHz (original: 300 MHz)

Installed the latest video driver and found a utility at MSI's site that monitors the fans and psu output, the generic ones could give me any info for some reason. One could give the HDD temp and that was it. Kind of neat, but not crucial. Downloading the Windows DeBug Utility now, OH! Goody! A dual core processsor and it still takes 1.5 hours to download a 12MB file "Your only as fast as your slowest component". Fuck.

Are you still on dial up mate ??

tryed to phone Grain, just keep getting a busy signal, must be downloading something big...............

I installed a PC for my wife's friend last week - they only have dialup so it pissed on me d/l a prog from Zonelabs - reckoned it was gonna take 2.5 hours !!!

I came back to ours, grabbed it via Broadband, burnt it to a CD-RW and went back to theirs, installed it and got it set up in 30 mins !!!

Can get hi-speed now, but need to buy $500 worth of hardware first. Will likely do it sooner rather than later though.

Christ !! Our hardware required for Broadband is all free here.........

$500? Unless you're getting some whizzbang new fangled connection with state of the art hardware that's bundled with other services like cable tv, mobile phone or landline deals, I think they're pullin' yer puddin'.
An ADSL modem/4-port router is only worth 50 bucks these days, less in US dollars. What sort of hardware are you looking at?

canada's a big open country, lots of elbow room

500 bills, christ Grain. 25$ for a ethernet card, modem should be free or else just a small charge on your phone/cable bill, router 50$. All filters for phones usually come with modem. I'm on Bell Sympatico Ultra High Speed 65$ a month/ approx. WoW do they ever soak you down in your neck of Canada.

edited. Double post..........

may as well say it twice kev

kev was so shocked he stuttered !!!

errrr yes, fingers too fast for the mind..........

I'm on an farm, and DSL, cable etc is not available yet, apparently putting in fibre optic cable, but that's years off IMO. I live less than an hour from a city of a million people, yet no broadband available, WTF? My only options so far are satellite or what I mentioned earlier. That's from a tower nearby that broadcast's the stream through the airwaves within a certain distance. You need to use a specific 900, 2.4 or 5.8MHZ receiver/broadcaster to get it (depending how far from the tower you are), which is where the 500 bills comes from. This tower was stricktly for the local booming oil business, but now have apparently aquired enough bandwidth to less to the local folk. They have the usual claim, "up to" 400mbps for the regular, 800 for the business package. One is 50 per month, the other 90ish, very rich.

Jesus, thats a lot of money to spend just to get hooked up for high speed. Wouldn't going the satellite route be a bit better for you. Around here, 150$ will get you a dish and modem, then you just have the monthly charges for what ever package you get........... Most of these dishes come with dual LNB's so you could hook two puters up ( with the additional charge of second modem ) guess you could use router for the same purpose.



Just seems a rip off, so close to a major city and yet so far from a high speed connection at reasonable prices............

It should stay years off, probably. Who wants fiber optic cable inserted into cows, anyway? What's the best having an Internet connected cow can offer? "PING! YOU'VE GOT MILK!"

DING !!! "You have new eggs" !!

Thats UDDERLY ridiculous guys.......................... . I suppose internet through a chicken would give you BEAK neck speeds though.............

**Groan**

I dunno, I pay $47.00 US a month for my broadband connection...and they also require you to subscribe to their cable services...right now at $97.00 a month for both...and I only have the 'Family Basic' plan...feels a lot like:

Sounds like a lot - my Broadband is unlimited for ?19 a month, we have to get phone services as well but whole lot averages ?30 a month.

Then again I pay an extra ?33 for Sky Satellite TV so I guess it now sounds ok Spinner

Still getting the restarts, no BSOD, just reboots. Fucker is starting to piss me off. Tried the windows debug utility, but it couldn't read the files stored in the mini dump, said they were not for it(I'm paraphrasing, at the fiance's). Monitor shows the temps and wattages are fine, and it's not giving me anywhere to start looking. BIOS won't allow me to change what it does on critical stops like some will, I'd rather it slowly go down than this.

Have you tried resetting the BIOS to default by using jumpers on the motherboard or clearing the CMOS by disconnecting all power, removing the battery and then hitting the power button (which drains the last of the power from the capacitors which clears the CMOS?)

The BIOS doesn't even give the option of what to do when encountering an error, ASUS usually had that option in there.

Clear the CMOS then like I described above by pulling the battery out etc. At least then you can start figuring out where the problem is. It can?t hurt.

I found a driver on AMD's site that is for their dual core CPU's & WinXp, allows XP to allocate duties correctly (supposedly) to the 2 cores. Installed it, working well "so far". Failing that I'll clear the CMOS, thanks for the tip Shamus. This MB has a button to clear it, apparently you don't need to remove the battery, which is kind of neat.

Update. So I tried the AMD driver download which is supposed to allow windows to allocate resources to which every CPU would serve best, hasn't really helped the stop errors, but it has started the FSB Multiplier to dance from 6X to 18X. Runs really stable until I tax the system. Cleared the CMOS, have gotten a BSOD after that which was very crytic, said TRAP_CAUSE_UNKNOWN, which from what I've found on the web, along with a string of numbers I wrote down as fast as I could(not fast enough to get all) XXX STOP 0X00000012, which "sort of" points to a Sound Blaster driver issue, but more on ME OS's. As I'd had problems with my old Athlon 64 Skt939 and a Audigy card (could never get it to work without a BSOD), I thought that may be worth looking into. So I've removed the Sound Blaster driver from the on-board Creative card. So far so good, has passed the first "stress" test, compressing video, burning DVD's, & surfing the web without crashing. Nice scans also. I'm not convinced this is the problem, but will happily be wrong.

Grain, for what's it's worth, check your video card mate, (and its drivers) it's amazing how many times I've found this to be the problem.

I've been wondering about the vid card also, drivers are up to date, but apparently some people are having issues with nvidia drivers and dual core processors. I played FarCry for an hour the other night with no issues, not that that makes it all right though.

Still no errors/problems with the Audigy drivers removed. Passed the last stress test where I was running a PiPo scan w/ DIP, ImgBurn burning w/ 3 discs in the que, DVDShrink running compressing a disc to 75% w/ deep analysis and compress video w/ quality adaptive et al running, also had 5 folders open, Mozilla running downloading, and Epson Print CD running but not printing. Shrink was done in 12 minutes, I like this dual core Only problem no audio

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/msi-k...us/index.x?pg=1


latest bios?

Appears to be the latest bios. Still no issues, it seems fully stable now, without the sudigy driver, which is weird. Must be something(software) I'm running elsewhere that conflicts with it.

when I asked for an everest overclock report I was thinking memory issues, is that kingston value or hyperx?

course that was before the part about you unloading audigy drivers?????????

Its Kingston Value Ram. Had the same 4 sticks in my old AMD 939 rig without issues, so I doubt problems there. Makes zero sense why Audigy drivers would be the problem, but it certainly is looking that way.

Still got sound problems, works like a clock without a sound card running. Tried a different brand sound card, similar issues. I posted wrong earlier, my old rig didn't like sound blaster either, but the on-board generic sound worked fine on that. Ordered some new memory to see if that's the issue, it's the only hardware that's been on both machines.

Tried plugging the sound card into all of the other slots? The slot you are using could be dead.

Afraid that's not it, it has an onboard creative card, tried a pci card with the same results. Works ok, but when running several programs at once it will BSOD on me.

Re the Audigy card ,I almost went crazy installing an audigy tried everything before I called creative they wound up sending me an install cd that worked it was different drivers that they sent me the OS was XP FWIW

Thanks Polo, if the new memory isn't the problem (don't think it will be, but I needed an excuse to tell the wife so I could go from 4 sticks of cheap 512 Kingston valueram to some decent dual channel stuff ) I'll call Creative, good advice.