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  1. You could remove PxHelp20, clbstor and Afc if you aren't using software that needs them for burning.

     

    Any filter you have in place has the potential to screw up the I/O chain.

     

    Thank you.

     

    The only other burning programs installed on this particular PC would be Nero (a version that's at least 4 years old) and the OEM (Cyberlink InstantBurn) software that came with the LG GGW-H20L drive.

     

    After I do another burn with ImgBurn, I'll see what happens.

  2. The text says that you should download this one instead of the other :)

     

    Installed the above. No glitches or other hangups occurred during installation, or after reboot.

     

    Would doing this alone have solved the problem, or are there other steps I need to take?

     

    Please let me know if you require any additional information now that this procedure has been accomplished.

  3. Have a look here and see if INF Update Utility and Matrix Storage Manager can be installed on your system :)

     

    I read the .txt files for each download. Afraid this stuff is a little over my head. Not sure if I should mess with it.

     

    This scared me away as well:

     

    "NOTE: File is intended for use by developers/advanced users. If you are not a developer/advanced user, please download INFINST_AUTOL.EXE instead."

     

    Anyway, the burn/verification was successful. I just quickly scanned through the disc on a PS3, and no lockups. I'll watch it in full tomorrow night.

  4. Are you using the latest drivers available for the SATA controller that the drive is connected to? Also please post your Filter Driver Load Order (look in ImgBurn's Tools menu).

     

    You might also want to enable FastWrite in the program's settings to speed up burning, but always leave Verify enabled :)

     

    I looked at the Sony web page that has the latest updates/drivers for my model (VGC-RA820G), but did find any newer SATA drivers. And they only had the original MB bios from 2004.

     

    Here is the Filter Driver Load Order:

    ===============================================

    Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.4.4.0

    ===============================================

     

    Upper Device Filter: redbook

    Upper Class Filter: [None Found]

    Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device

    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20

    Lower Class Filter: clbstor

    Lower Class Filter: Afc

    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD

    Lower Device Filter: imapi

     

    Filter Name: redbook

    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys

    File Version: 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2108)

    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver

    Product Name: Microsoft

  5. I receive this error once in a while. Just today when burning a Sony BD50-RE. Burn was successful, but received error during verify. Then it verified O.K. at the finish.:

     

    ; //****************************************\\

    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 - Log

    ; Saturday, 25 April 2009, 20:49:32

    ; \\****************************************//

    ;

    ;

    I 14:35:13 ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 started!

    I 14:35:13 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 14:35:13 Total Physical Memory: 1,047,916 KB - Available: 695,348 KB

    I 14:35:13 Initialising SPTI...

    I 14:35:13 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    I 14:35:19 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

  6. Yes they're spam and have been deleted.

     

    I received the same type of e-mail today (twice!). I won't post the link it said to click on, but this was the message:

     

    "jurdreda has sent you a new personal message titled "From Administrator".

     

     

    You can read this personal message by following the link below:"

     

    My policy is to never click on any link I receive in an e-mail. It's a good thing I checked my in box and saw "0 messages."

  7. Verify only tells you that it can be read in that drive, not that it'll work in anything else.

     

    Every drive has different capabilities when it comes to reading and a computer BD drive is more likely to read BDRE media than a PS3 which is probably geared more towards reading pressed BDROM's.

     

    The whole thing about leaving the spare areas enabled is that if a sector on the disc is found to be a bit dodgy, it can be mapped out of use. When you use the entire disc (no spare areas), that can't happen and your bad sector becomes 'available' for use again, even if it's not readable/writable.

     

    Well, it looks like the replacement LG branded BD25-RE is toast. This is the one mentioned above that had the drop outs at the beginning (but at least it burned somewhat successfully the first time around.) Used the new 2.4.4.0 ImgBurn and did a minimum capacity format (which failed.) Then tried to burn it anyway just for laughs.

     

    The burn log:

     

    ;

    ; //****************************************\\

    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 - Log

    ; Saturday, 11 April 2009, 18:25:22

    ; \\****************************************//

    ;

    ;

    I 18:23:22 ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 started!

    I 18:23:22 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 18:23:22 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,647,792 KB

    I 18:23:22 Initialising SPTI...

    I 18:23:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    E 18:23:22 Failed to check for ImgBurn update!

    I 18:23:22 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

  8. Ah, the % will be present when ImgBurn is writing zeroes to the sectors.... but not when the drive is actually performing the format/erase and certifying the media (this is an internal process).

     

    The whole thing will be much clearer in 2.4.4.0 :)

     

    The thing with 2.4.3.0 is that when immediate I/O is disabled and the format command fails, you don't know about it.

     

    By default 2.4.3.0 will attempt to format with full certification first, if that fails then it'll attempt to do it quickly without any certification.

     

    So what might actually be happening for you is that the format command fails will full certification (as it does when immediate i/o is enabled - and this is what SHOULD be happening or there's a bug in the drives firmware!) and then the quick one succeeds - thus you end up with an erase operation that seems to have completed without error.

     

    This must be what just happened with one of the lesser quality LG BD25-RE's (included with the burner.)

     

    I used the full format command on a brand new one last night on the downstairs burner (the one that I assume is the better of the 2.) Anyway, It gave me the same format error warning as before, (the I/O box was left checked in this instance.) The format eventually completed, and the disc burned and verified successfully.

     

    I assumed all was well. Then I played it back from the beginning. Within less than a minute, the audio started to exhibit glitches (drop outs.) The disc would continue to play, but it was obvious that there was something wrong (at least with this section of the disc.) I tried it on my PS3 just to be sure, and the drop outs were in the same place. This surprised me, as the disc supposedly passed the verification process.

     

    So, as a test, I'm starting the process over with the same disc, except this time I'm trying a "preferred format" full erase mode instead of the full capacity format. I'm not sure if that will produce different results, but as I said in my first post, these errors only started to occur when I chose to erase my discs using the full capacity format mode.

     

    Apparently, some discs do not react well when the full capacity format is used. :(

  9. O.K. I just successfully completed a full format/burn on the suspect burner with a SONY BD50-RE.

     

    Here is the before and after status box info:

     

    BEFORE:

     

    HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (ATA)

    Current Profile: BD-RE

     

    Disc Information:

    Status: Complete

    Erasable: Yes

    Sessions: 1

    Sectors: 23,652,352

    Size: 48,440,016,896 bytes

    Time: 5256:06:52 (MM:SS:FF)

     

    TOC Information:

    Session 1... (LBA: 0)

    -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 23652351)

    -> LeadOut (LBA: 23652352)

     

    BD Disc Information:

    Disc ID: MEI-T01-01

    Disc Type: BD-RE

     

    Format Capacities:

    DT: 0x02 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

    FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

     

    AFTER:

     

    HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (ATA)

    Current Profile: BD-RE

     

    Disc Information:

    Status: Complete

    Erasable: Yes

    Sessions: 1

    Sectors: 24,438,784

    Size: 50,050,629,632 bytes

    Time: 5430:52:34 (MM:SS:FF)

     

    TOC Information:

    Session 1... (LBA: 0)

    -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 24438783)

    -> LeadOut (LBA: 24438784)

     

    BD Disc Information:

    Disc ID: MEI-T01-01

    Disc Type: BD-RE

     

    Format Capacities:

    DT: 0x02 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 0

    FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

    FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

     

     

    And here is the ImgBurn log:

     

    I 00:37:44 ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 started!

    I 00:37:44 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 00:37:44 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,666,064 KB

    I 00:37:44 Initialising SPTI...

    I 00:37:44 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    I 00:37:46 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

  10. Just FMI (for my information!), can you post the disc info from that newly formatted BD25 please?

     

    Certainly.:

     

    HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (ATA)

    Current Profile: BD-RE

     

    Disc Information:

    Status: Complete

    Erasable: Yes

    Sessions: 1

    Sectors: 12,219,392

    Size: 25,025,314,816 bytes

    Time: 2715:27:17 (MM:SS:FF)

     

    TOC Information:

    Session 1... (LBA: 0)

    -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 12219391)

    -> LeadOut (LBA: 12219392)

     

    BD Disc Information:

    Disc ID: RITEK-BW1-01

    Disc Type: BD-RE

     

    Format Capacities:

    DT: 0x02 - NB: 12219392 (0x00BA7400) - TDP: 0

    FT: 0x00 - NB: 11826176 (0x00B47400) - TDP: 12288

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 11826176 (0x00B47400) - TDP: 12288

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 11564032 (0x00B07400) - TDP: 20480

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 12088320 (0x00B87400) - TDP: 4096

    FT: 0x31 - NB: 12219392 (0x00BA7400) - TDP: 2048

     

     

    This is the info from the status box after it was formatted and then burned. It is a Memorex branded disc. I've already written to it once before (using the older version 2.4.2.0 with the preferred format capacity), so it's still fairly new. I still haven't had time to watch the disc, or do the rip test. Maybe later tonight. Also, I need to try full formatting one of the Sony BD50-RE's on the suspect burner.

     

    If you also want to see the ImgBurn log info, I can post that later as well.

     

    Updated 1:25am EST: The above disc was ripped successfully to my HD on another PC/burner. No errors.

     

    So far, so good.

     

    The suspect burner is currently doing a full erase/format (full capacity) on a previously burned (preferred formatted) Sony BD50-RE. I'll post the details (status box info, before and after) when it is complete.

  11. Make sure you tick that box again, it's there for debugging purposes really and the erase command is not the only one to make use of it.

     

    Not using immediate I/O means it'll hog the bus and no status (i.e. % complete) can be provided.

     

    Also note that unless 4 different attempts to format the disc fail, the 'erase' process in ImgBurn wouldn't display an error when that Immediate I/O setting is disabled. When enabled, you at least know there was a problem somewhere along the line even if a later command succeeds.

     

    I've changed how 2.4.4.0 does things so that if it fails, you'll know about it - and without any special hidden retries on the program's part.

     

    Yes. The proof of the pudding will be when I watch the disc from start to finish without any burps. If it passes that test, only then will I know if the format/burn was truly error free.

     

    Just thought of another way to check the disc. I'll rip it to a hard drive image on my other PC/burner and see if that turns out O.K. If there are any disc read errors during the rip, I'll know that the "fix" isn't reliable.

  12. Ok, all done :)

     

    You have a lot more options now when it comes to deciding on how to format your BD-RE :)

     

    Have a play around with 2.4.4.0 when it comes out and see if can get it working with spare areas turned on and the format size set to maximum.

     

    If you disable full certification and properly formatted discs it'll only take about 30 seconds too - but you should only disable certification if you know the disc is 100% fine (or don't care if it's not).

     

    The 'prefer properly formatted discs' option will make ImgBurn zero fill all the sectors on the disc once the drive says it's finished doing its part (i.e. preparing the disc for the new formatted size and certifying it).

     

    I may have found a solution to my original problem.

     

    First, let me say that I was in error when I first reported that ImgBurn had formatted my BD50-RE into a BD25-RE. This is NOT what actually happened, and was not the programs fault at all. What I was trying to do was increase the capacity of a BD50-RE (and BD25-RE) to the maximum possible data capacity.

     

    When I first attempted this, I was using the recently released ImgBurn ver. 2.4.3.0 (which no longer displays the "preferred format capacity" et al, in the status box on the right. Not having this as a reference, I erroneously mistook the "sectors available"" information for the "bytes available" information, and thought that ImgBurn had decreased the capacity of my disc.

     

    I have since discovered that my LG BluRay burner was the culprit. For some reason, when I selected a full capacity erase function, it was giving me an error when it reached 99% of the operation. I had to manually stop the process, and the disc was then only reporting that it had the lower capacity.

     

    The reason that I'm assuming that the burner is at fault is because I have 2 identical units. One will perform the full format operation without a glitch, while the other stops at 99%. Both are using the same version of ImgBurn with the exact same settings.

     

    The error message I was experiencing was: "W 15:39:04 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (99%, 0/4) - Format Command Failed." Last night I Googled this information and found that someone suggested I change one particular setting in ImgBurn. Under Settings: / I/O Settings: / Don't Use Immediate I/O check the box "Enable".

     

    After doing this, I was able to complete the full capacity erase format and burn on a BD25-RE without getting the error message. I have not tried it with a BD50-RE as yet, but will within the next day or so. And will report results.

  13. Reverting won't do anything, the command is the same no matter which program (or version of it) sends it.

     

    Are the 'MEI-T01-01' dye discs brand new? Are they branded by Panasonic or another make?

     

    They are BD50-RE Sony branded discs. Bought 2 of them, brand new, from Amazon.com about a week ago. Have already done at least 3 successful burns/re-writes on each, using the previous version of ImgBurn 2.4.2.0

     

    While I was using them with ImgBurn 2.4.2.0, I did not know that it was possible to format them to a larger capacity. So I made do with what I had, and never encountered a glitch of any kind.

     

    I have only experienced problems after I started using ImgBurn 2.4.3.0 and tried to increase the formatted size. And (so far) only on the upstairs drive.

     

    By the way, would you happen to know what this error message (W 15:39:04 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (99%, 0/4) - Format Command Failed) means? Is it perhaps a defect in my drive?

  14. Sorry, I don't get your point?

     

    The disc is already formatted to 48,440,016,896 bytes - that's what 23652352 sectors is.

     

    There's no reason to do it again if you're happy with that size.

     

    I'm sorry. I was confused about the sectors vs. bytes information. You are correct. The BD50-RE has always shown that it had 48,440,016,896 bytes (23652352 sectors.)

     

    My problem with this drive seems to be trying to get the disc to format the larger (full 50GB) size.

     

    The full erase of the Sony BD50-RE disc was successful with the 'prefer format without spare areas' UNCHECKED. I have now started another full erase cycle with the box checked. I need to find out if I can obtain the extra space for a burn larger than the 48,440,016,896 bytes available. Yours seems to have no difficulty formatting for the full 50GB.

     

    I should also tell you that I have TWO LG GGW-H20L drives. The one in my upstairs PC seems to be the one that is giving me problems after I installed ImgBurn ver. 2.4.3.0

     

    In fact, I just ran a FULL ERASE on a Memorex BD25-RE and encountered the same warning message that I received before with the BD50-RE (This is with the 'prefer format without spare areas' checked. Please note the warning message (in bold text):

     

    ; //****************************************\\

    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 - Log

    ; Wednesday, 08 April 2009, 17:43:56

    ; \\****************************************//

    ;

    ;

    I 14:15:14 ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 started!

    I 14:15:14 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 14:15:14 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,670,972 KB

    I 14:15:14 Initialising SPTI...

    I 14:15:14 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    I 14:15:16 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

  15. It won't.

     

    It must be checked to get the full capacity - that's why it now defaults to being checked.

     

    What I meant was that I was hoping that by unchecking the box, I'd at least get the "old" format capacity back (48,440,016,896 the way it was when it was new.) I know that was under actual format capacity yours shows, but at least it worked.

     

    If this fails, I'll try one more time (FULL ERASE with the 'prefer format without spare areas' box checked) and see if it finally fixes the glitch.

     

    If you can think of anything else that I might try to get this Sony BD50-RE disc formatted correctly, I'd appreciate it.

  16. Just tried to do a "Quick Erase" on the same BD50-RE disc and got the "blue screen of death" (system crashed.)

     

    Upon reboot, and checking the ImgBurn information box on the right, it now says this:

     

    HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (ATA)

    Current Profile: BD-RE

     

    Disc Information:

    Status: Complete

    Erasable: Yes

     

    TOC Information:

    Session 1... (LBA: 0)

    -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 23652351)

    -> LeadOut (LBA: 23652352)

     

    BD Disc Information:

    Disc ID: MEI-T01-01

    Disc Type: BD-RE

     

    Format Capacities:

    DT: 0x02 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

    FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

     

    I have just started a FULL ERASE with the box 'prefer format without spare areas' option UNCHECKED this time. I did this in the hope that it would at least bring the disc back to it's previous BD50 capacity.

     

    It is currently at 2%.

     

    I'll report back when/if it finishes formatting.

  17. W 05:18:26 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn!

    I 05:18:26 Source File Sectors: 24,272,032 (MODE1/2048)

    I 05:18:26 Destination Media Sectors: 23,652,352

    W 08:51:19 Failed to Write Sectors 23652352 - 23652383 - Reason: Logical Block Address out of Range

    You've tried to overburn and it failed, but that's not BD25 capacity, that's BD50. In Tools -> Settings -> Write tab, is the option 'Prefer Format Without Spare Areas' checked or unchecked?

     

    'Prefer Format Without Spare Areas' is checked (by default it seems.)

     

    I noticed on the previous version (using the default settings) that it is not checked. But on the latest version it is. I have always burned this BD50-RE using the default settings.

     

    The problem seems to have begun when I tried to do the full erase and got the first warning: "Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (99%, 0/4) - Format Command Failed."

     

    It is strange that the box on the right still reports that the disc is a BD50.

  18. Size: 48,440,016,896 bytes

     

    It certainly looks like ~50gb to me!

     

    I tried burning again last night. Received a message to the effect that maximum capacity of disc was a BD25 and did I wish to continue anyway. I selected yes, and let the burn proceed.

     

    This morning I checked the status, and it failed (stopped at BD25 capacity.)

     

    Here is the log for that burn:

     

    ; //****************************************\\

    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 - Log

    ; Wednesday, 08 April 2009, 12:20:30

    ; \\****************************************//

    ;

    ;

    I 05:13:08 ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 started!

    I 05:13:08 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 05:13:08 Total Physical Memory: 1,047,916 KB - Available: 639,264 KB

    I 05:13:08 Initialising SPTI...

    I 05:13:08 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    I 05:13:08 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

  19. Please post all the disc info (from the box on the right) when you're in Write mode with that disc in the drive.

     

    HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (ATA)

    Current Profile: BD-RE

     

    Disc Information:

    Status: Complete

    Erasable: Yes

    Sessions: 1

    Sectors: 23,652,352

    Size: 48,440,016,896 bytes

    Time: 5256:06:52 (MM:SS:FF)

     

    TOC Information:

    Session 1... (LBA: 0)

    -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 23652351)

    -> LeadOut (LBA: 23652352)

     

    BD Disc Information:

    Disc ID: MEI-T01-01

    Disc Type: BD-RE

     

    Format Capacities:

    DT: 0x02 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

    FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

    FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

  20. Using a LG GGW-H20L drive with a BD50-RE Sony disc. Had 3 successful burns using ImgBurn 2.4.2.0

     

    Yesterday, upgraded to 2.4.3.0 and decided to do a full format before burning and encountered a glitch (see log):

     

    ; //****************************************\\

    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 - Log

    ; Wednesday, 08 April 2009, 05:10:45

    ; \\****************************************//

    ;

    ;

    I 22:33:09 ImgBurn Version 2.4.3.0 started!

    I 22:33:09 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

    I 22:33:09 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,616,336 KB

    I 22:33:09 Initialising SPTI...

    I 22:33:09 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

    I 22:33:11 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD

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