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Hey guys, the past few days I have been attempting to burn a series onto some Verbatim DVD-9s I bought. I have consistently been running into problems when attempting to burn these. Originally, after creating the ISO file from DVDStyler,  I attempted to do a direct ISO burn onto the DVD through Imgburn, this didn't work, and I believed the cause to be problems with layering, so, I extracted the DVD_TS Files from the ISO File, and used the Build option on Imgburn, choosing my own layer break, this, however, also did not work. 

I was wondering what kind, if any, major differences the two of these might have on the burning process, and or why I might use one over the other. 

The cause of my burn failures is most likely not related to which method I use, however in hopes of eventually getting them to burn, I would like to stay consistent on my attempts, and was wondering which one I should be sticking with.  

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The most likely cause is you're using Verbatim Life Series DVD-9's.  If you bought them in a store, they're Verbatim Life Series.  Life Series is the CMC junk Verbatim makes.  The good Verbatim stuff is the MKM DataLife Plus series you only find in online stores.

 

Post a log of a failed burn.  That will tell if you're using the right Verbatim or not.

 

Since you've tried both burning an ISO and creating a new disc from Build mode with the VIDEO_TS and get "burn problems," that indicates the discs being the problem.  Or the drive.  Or a combination of both.

 

Also what "problems" are you running into when burning?  Probably a failure to Write/Verify at the layer break, a common problem with CMC media.

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This is the most recent log; 

; //****************************************\\
;   ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log
;   Friday, 28 August 2020, 10:41:53
; \\****************************************//
;
;
I 09:33:58 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 09:33:58 Microsoft Windows 8 Core x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)
I 09:33:58 Total Physical Memory: 8,219,300 KiB  -  Available: 2,509,452 KiB
I 09:33:58 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:33:58 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:33:59 -> Drive 1 - Info: TS8XDVDS TRANSCEND TW00 (D:) (USB 2.0)
I 09:33:59 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 09:34:42 Operation Started!
I 09:34:42 Building Image Tree...
I 09:34:42 Checking Directory Depth...
I 09:34:42 Calculating Totals...
I 09:34:42 Preparing Image...
E 09:34:51 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:00:09
I 09:48:17 Operation Started!
I 09:48:17 Building Image Tree...
I 09:48:48 Checking Directory Depth...
I 09:48:48 Calculating Totals...
I 09:48:48 Preparing Image...
I 09:49:42 Using Layer Break LBA: 1422705 -> 1422720 (VTS_01, PGC: 6, Chapter: 1, Cell: 1, Vob/Cell ID: 6/1, Time: 00:00:00, SPLIP: No)
I 09:49:42 Checking Path Length...
I 09:49:42 Contents: 12 Files, 2 Folders
I 09:49:42 Content Type: DVD Video
I 09:49:42 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 09:49:42 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 09:49:42 Volume Label: VIDEO TS FILES
I 09:49:42 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
I 09:49:42 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 09:49:42 TV System: NTSC
I 09:49:42 Size: 5,777,866,752 bytes
I 09:49:42 Sectors: 2,821,224
I 09:49:42 Image Size: 5,778,505,728 bytes
I 09:49:42 Image Sectors: 2,821,536
I 09:49:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:34
I 09:49:52 Operation Started!
I 09:49:52 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 09:49:52 Source File Sectors: 2,821,536 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:49:52 Source File Size: 5,778,505,728 bytes
I 09:49:52 Source File Volume Identifier: VIDEO TS FILES
I 09:49:52 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 511C4E08002B0D91
I 09:49:52 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 09:49:52 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 09:49:52 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 09:49:52 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TS8XDVDS TRANSCEND TW00 (D:) (USB)
I 09:49:52 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D03-64)
I 09:49:52 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x
I 09:49:52 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 09:49:52 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes)
I 09:49:52 Write Mode: DVD
I 09:49:52 Write Type: DAO
I 09:49:52 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 09:49:52 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 09:49:52 Link Size: Auto
I 09:49:52 Lock Volume: Yes
I 09:49:52 Test Mode: No
I 09:49:52 OPC: No
I 09:49:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 09:49:52 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 4,155 KB/s (3x)
W 09:49:52 The drive only supports writing these discs at 3x, 4x, 6x.
I 09:49:52 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,422,720
I 09:49:52 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set
I 09:51:30 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 09:51:30 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 1,422,720
I 09:51:34 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 09:51:35 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:51:37 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2821535)
I 09:51:37 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2821535)
I 09:51:37 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1422719)
I 10:03:25 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1422720 - 2821535)
I 10:15:18 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:15:25 Closing Track...
I 10:15:30 Finalising Disc...
I 10:16:34 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:16:34 Graph Data File: C:\Users\LMush\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TS8XDVDS_TRANSCEND_TW00_FRIDAY-AUGUST-28-2020_9-49_AM_CMC_MAG-D03-64_2.4x.ibg
I 10:16:34 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:16:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:26:42
I 10:16:34 Average Write Rate: 3,973 KiB/s (2.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,128 KiB/s (3.1x)
I 10:16:34 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 10:16:50 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 10:17:22 Device Ready!
E 10:17:23 CompareImageFileLayouts Failed! - Session Count Not Equal (1/0)
E 10:17:23 Verify Failed! - Reason: Layouts do not match.
I 10:23:40 Operation Started!
I 10:23:40 Building Image Tree...
I 10:23:48 Checking Directory Depth...
I 10:23:48 Calculating Totals...
I 10:23:48 Preparing Image...
I 10:24:29 Using Layer Break LBA: 1132750 -> 1688768 (VTS_01, PGC: 5, Chapter: 1, Cell: 1, Vob/Cell ID: 5/1, Time: 00:00:00, SPLIP: No)
I 10:24:29 Checking Path Length...
I 10:24:29 Contents: 12 Files, 2 Folders
I 10:24:29 Content Type: DVD Video
I 10:24:29 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 10:24:29 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:24:29 Volume Label: VIDEO TS FILES
I 10:24:29 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
I 10:24:29 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 10:24:29 TV System: NTSC
I 10:24:29 Size: 5,777,866,752 bytes
I 10:24:29 Sectors: 2,821,224
I 10:24:29 Image Size: 6,917,193,728 bytes
I 10:24:29 Image Sectors: 3,377,536
I 10:24:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:57
I 10:24:37 Operation Started!
I 10:24:37 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 10:24:37 Source File Sectors: 3,377,536 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:24:37 Source File Size: 6,917,193,728 bytes
I 10:24:37 Source File Volume Identifier: VIDEO TS FILES
I 10:24:37 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 511C52F400338974
I 10:24:37 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 10:24:37 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 10:24:37 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:24:37 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TS8XDVDS TRANSCEND TW00 (D:) (USB)
I 10:24:37 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D03-64)
I 10:24:37 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x
I 10:24:37 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 10:24:37 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes)
I 10:24:37 Write Mode: DVD
I 10:24:37 Write Type: DAO
I 10:24:37 Write Speed: 4x
I 10:24:37 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 10:24:37 Link Size: Auto
I 10:24:38 Lock Volume: Yes
I 10:24:38 Test Mode: No
I 10:24:38 OPC: No
I 10:24:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:24:38 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
I 10:24:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,688,768
I 10:24:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set
I 10:25:40 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 10:25:40 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 1,688,768
I 10:25:40 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 10:25:41 Writing LeadIn...
I 10:25:43 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3377535)
I 10:25:43 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3377535)
I 10:25:43 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1688767)
I 10:36:40 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1688768 - 3377535)
W 10:39:27 Failed to Write Sectors 1964640 - 1964671 - Reason: Write Error
W 10:39:27 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 10:39:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:39:35 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 10:39:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:40:42 Retrying (21)...
W 10:40:42 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:40:44 Retrying (22)...
W 10:40:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:40:44 Retrying (23)...
W 10:40:44 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 10:40:45 Retrying (24)...
W 10:40:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 10:40:47 Failed to Write Sectors 1964640 - 1964671 - Reason: Write Error
E 10:40:47 Next Writable Address: 1964416
I 10:40:47 Synchronising Cache...
W 10:40:52 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
E 10:40:52 Failed to Write Image!
I 10:40:52 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:40:52 Graph Data File: C:\Users\LMush\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TS8XDVDS_TRANSCEND_TW00_FRIDAY-AUGUST-28-2020_10-24_AM_CMC_MAG-D03-64_4x.ibg
I 10:40:52 Export Successfully Completed!
E 10:40:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:16:15
I 10:40:52 Average Write Rate: 4,351 KiB/s (3.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,498 KiB/s (4.1x)
I 10:41:48 Close Request Acknowledged
I 10:41:48 Closing Down...
I 10:41:53 Shutting down SPTI...
I 10:41:53 ImgBurn closed!
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And I have experienced both Writing Failures, as well as Verifying Failures 

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Yep, there's your problem.  Just as I thought.

 

I 09:49:52 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D03-64)

 

You got the Life Series Verbatim, which is the CMC junk.  Don't use those.  They will fail 9 times out 10.  Don't get the Verbatim you find in stores.  Get the DataLife Plus/AZO/MKM series you only find in online stores.  Those are the good Verbatim.

 

There is only one quality brand of DVD+R DL out there, for now, anyway.  And that's the DataLife Plus/AZO/MKM series.

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Thank you very much for your help, I'm about to order a pack of the AZO series. In addition, once I get these, would you recommend an ISO Burn? or should I stick to the File Build to Burn. 

Or should it not even matter?  

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Really, it won't matter.  Unless you're writing directly to disc, Build mode will create an ISO, anyway, which must be burned.  And reading a disc to ISO means you've already got the disc burned/complete to begin with.  However, if you're just trying to make a copy of a disc that already exists (And isn't protected.), just use ISO Read mode.  It's easier.

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W 09:49:52 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 4,155 KB/s (3x)
W 09:49:52 The drive only supports writing these discs at 3x, 4x, 6x.

 

It may help or not, but you could also try the other speeds available. (4x, 6x)

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