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ASCQ 0x90 errors, but disk appears to be good?

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Hi folks,

I'm attempting to make backups of some old software disks, but a few of them are giving me grief. Using the windows file manager I can copy the entire contents of the disk to a folder, so I assume the disk is good. But when I fire up ImgBurn to make an ISO, I get:

Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10; ASCQ: 0x90)

 

I get the same results one 2 different optical drives. Am I running into some kind of weird copy protection or what?

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Here ya go:

 

I 10:46:58 Operation Started!
I 10:46:58 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GSA-H11N JG03 (L:) (USB)
I 10:46:58 Source Media Type: CD-ROM
I 10:46:58 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
I 10:46:58 Source Media Sectors: 244,133
I 10:46:58 Source Media Size: 499,984,384 bytes
I 10:46:58 Source Media Volume Identifier: Sims2EP4_1
I 10:46:58 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet
I 10:46:58 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x
I 10:46:58 Destination File: H:\Sims2EP4_1.iso
I 10:46:58 Destination Free Space: 2,651,779,571,712 Bytes (2,589,628,488.00 KiB) (2,528,934.07 MiB) (2,469.66 GiB)
I 10:46:58 Destination File System: NTFS
I 10:46:58 File Splitting: Auto
I 10:47:02 Read Speed - Effective: 48x
I 10:47:05 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 244132)
I 10:47:05 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 244132)
W 10:47:14 Failed to Read Sectors 896 - 927 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:21 Failed to Read Sector 922 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:21 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 10:47:28 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:28 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 10:47:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:35 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 10:47:42 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:42 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 10:47:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:49 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 10:47:56 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:47:56 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 10:48:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:03 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 10:48:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:10 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 10:48:17 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:17 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 10:48:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:24 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 10:48:31 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:31 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 10:48:38 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:38 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 10:48:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:45 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 10:48:52 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:52 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 10:48:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:48:59 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 10:49:06 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:49:06 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 10:49:13 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:49:13 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 10:49:19 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:49:19 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 10:49:26 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:49:26 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 10:49:33 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 10:49:33 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 10:49:40 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
E 10:50:08 Failed to Read Sector 922 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90)
E 10:50:08 Failed to Read Sectors!
I 10:50:09 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:50:09 Graph Data File: C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RW_GSA-H11N_JG03_WEDNESDAY-MARCH-31-2021_10-46_AM_N-A.ibg
I 10:50:09 Export Successfully Completed!
E 10:50:09 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:10
E 10:50:09 Average Read Rate: 9 KiB/s (0.1x) - Maximum Read Rate: 9 KiB/s (0.1x)
 

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Given it's a game CD of a popular series, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of protection on it.  Yet, if there were, you wouldn't be able to copy over the contents with File/Windows Explorer, I would think.  Unless you need the disc to run the game and the software checks for some kind of unreadable sectors as copy protection like the PS1 did.

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Ah but I ripped a whole stack of PS1/PS2 games without issue. I suspect its some form of copy protection, after proceeding with the process it pretty consistently came up on disk 1 of every 2 disk set. Very frustrating for someone who just wants to make backups of things they own.

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Oh, wait, this Sims is a PS1 game disc and not a PC game disc?  Then, it's not copy protection.  What you're most likely encountering is a hardware incompatibility.  There are known issues with ImgBurn attempting to read some PS1 discs in some optical drives.  For instance, my Mega Man 8 will not read to an image file with ImgBurn.  However, Alcohol 120% will read it.  So, try using Alcohol 120%.  I believe there's a free version.

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No, its a Sims 2 PC disk. I was saying I also ripped a ton of PS1 games using ImgBurn earlier and never had an issue. I had encountered a similar problem with CDBurn XP, but I'll give a whirl at Alcohol 120%.

 

Thanks!

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Alcohol probably won't help in this case.  I was thinking it was a PS1 Sims game CD, which that would matter.  I said it may be copy protection because, at first, I thought it was a Sims PC game disc, which it is.  And The Sims is a very popular series, which could mean they copy protected it.  But, why you'd be able to copy the contents with File/Windows Explorer if it was protected doesn't make sense, though.  Unless you need the original physical disc to start the game each time.

 

I think there used to be something called Game Jackal that was designed to copy copy protected PC game discs.

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Yeah, Alcohol hasn't helped. Tons of errors. Its gotta be copy protection, I can't believe the disk 1 for half a dozen PC games has gone bad. I'll take a look at game jackal.

EDIT: that doesn't seem to be for ripping disks. Its basically an auto-no-CD system, which I'm sure has it's uses, but is not terribly helpful for my long-term archival project.

Edited by hunterjwizzard

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I wasn't entirely sure.  Then, it's either Daemon Tools or AnyDVD (Despite its name, I thought it had a copy protected CD reading feature, but that may be for audio CD's,. if such things existed.) that had a feature that could read protected game CD's.  Or maybe CloneCD instead of Game Jackal.

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