spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Okay after having 2 burners crap out on me recently (now Im not so sure they're broken) I ordered a 112d from newegg. No successful burns on images. Im using Vista, and checked the DMA, I have 3 channel 0 ATAs and 3 channel 1 ATAs the first 2 channel 0s have DMA enabled, one says mode 5 second one says mode 4 (cdrom) Is it maybe a configuration or pin setting issue? Here's my log... I've coastered atleast 10 verbs this month and I'll kill a kitten before I loose another... help? (I hope it's not a bad batch.) EDIT - I have the updated firmware 1.21 EDIT Again - Okay I changed my pin to slave just to check. Now the first ATA channel 0 has nothing listed, the second channel 0 has Device: ATA disk with DMA mode 5, and the 3rd channel 0 has Device: ATAPI cdrom with DMA mode 4, which is enabled, but when I select the line that says ATAPI cdrom the check box clears itself, then greys out making it uncheckable, so then I hit cancel. I'm far from an expert but this seems weird to me. ANY help is greatly appreciated. I 11:07:31 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 11:07:31 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6000) I 11:07:31 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,064 KB - Available: 1,358,368 KB I 11:07:31 Initialising SPTI... I 11:07:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 11:07:31 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD Edited June 28, 2007 by spusaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 G'day. Silly question first - did you reboot the PC after flashing the drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Came with the 1.21 firmware so it didnt need to install it. Ive tried removing it and restarting the process all over, nothing. I can't seem to figure this DMA stuff out either. Even with no optical drives virtual or otherwise, it still says 2 devices supported, 1 seems to be my samsung harddrive set up as SATA and it seems that defaults to DMA Ultra mode 5 for some reason. When I uncheck to disable that DMA the PC doesnt boot. This is all very confusing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 which mobo is it and which ide are you connecting with and are you using standard ms ide/sata drivers or intel storage or the accelerator ide stuff. You should maybe also check your bios setup Could also be as you suspect a dodgy batch of discs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Okay I built the PC myself, the mobo is a BIOSTAR TForce965PT LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard, I don't really know anything after that as far as IDE and SATA goes. Its the only spot on the mobo for the flat ribbon cable to connect to then straight to the 112d same with the SATA from the only spot on the mobo to the HD. as far as drivers they'd be standard, I haven't messed with any of that, and my bios is up to date. I have everything set to auto in BIOS as far as detection goes, and the drive can read DVDs just fine. In My Computer it comes up as Pioneer 112d DVD R and runing the analyzer in imgburn I have checks in all the right places i.e. DVD R DL read and write and whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Not sure if this is important... Is it necessary to select a region for the DVD burner, that I haven't done yet, but I don't think I did in the past either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Have you tried burning at any of the faster speeds the drive supports? The 965 chipset doesn't support the legacy IDE ports/connectors now so you're running the drive on a 3rd party controller. It might be an idea to visit the website of whoever makes it and look for some updated drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Have you tried burning at any of the faster speeds the drive supports? The 965 chipset doesn't support the legacy IDE ports/connectors now so you're running the drive on a 3rd party controller. It might be an idea to visit the website of whoever makes it and look for some updated drivers. Okay I know thats a useful statement but I don't understand it, not that savvy =( So the way I have my optical hooked to the mobo isnt supported? And I need to look for drivers to allow that connection to work? Are they called IDE drivers or something along those lines? Forgive my ignorance. Also not sure if this would help as well, didn't notice we could upload. I also haven't tried anything above x2.4 I'll give that a shot. Edited June 28, 2007 by spusaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Optical drives are never really 100% when hooked up to 3rd party controllers. Some do work much better than other though and some don't work at all. You've probably got a jmicron controller on your board, that's what most motherboard manufacturers use. What you need to do now is look in 'Device Manager' and find out exactly which chipset / model it is. If you open up the 'SCSI and RAID controllers' branch, you should see it listed in there. (If it's not in that one, look under 'IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers') Tell us what you see (or provide another screenshot of device manager with those branches expanded) and one of us will hunt out the latest drivers for you. They might just fix the issue if you're lucky! That is of course assuming it's *something* to do with that in the first place. It could just be a bad drive/media/write speed combo. I've no real experience of the 8x Verb DL discs, I always buy the 2.4x ones and they burn ok in my Pioneer 112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 If it wasn't for the fact that I can't even burn a CD I would be leaning towards the media myself, but that threw me for a loop. Here's some screenies. The driver tab for the Master IDE controller says Driver Provider: Microsoft Driver Date: 6/21/2006 Driver Version: 6.0.6000.16391 Digital Signer: microsoft.windows I realize this has gone well beyond any imgburn issues and really do appreciate the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 the log shows 1,0,0 screenshot shows 1,1,0 are the jumpers correct on the optical drives master for top drive at end of cable and slave for middle of cable? there are new inf drivers for that mobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Oddly I just saw the same 2 things. While googling the heck out of this I saw I had my IDE cable in wrong, blue to the mobo, grey to the slave and black to the master. I fixed it got excited, and it still didn't work, then I went back to the mobo site the chipset thing I DLed I thought was a BIOS update, now I see my error and found the real BIOS patch for VT6410 which I think is exactly what I need. So I DLed it and it's a .bst file so as soon as I figure out how to flash the BIOS with no floppy or burning capabilities I think the problem will have been solved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow so it seems they are trying to phase out the IDE hence my problems... however I'm required to have a FLOPPY drive to upgrade my BIOS to fix a problem of matured technology by using ancient technology. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 just to test I would have the pioneer as master with the other drive disconnected(power and pata cable) make sure the dvd burner is connected to a power lead that goes straight to the power supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 If it wasn't for the fact that I can't even burn a CD I would be leaning towards the media myself, but that threw me for a loop. Here's some screenies. have pioneer fixed the issue of burning cds with 112 ? if not thats why cd's are not working so you could not judge writer based on cd's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 (edited) I managed to flash the BIOS, I think (Used a winflash tool) Still nothing. I was unaware the 112d had CD burning issues so that could very well be the case. I have some Verb single layers I could coaster a few trying that out, almost out of DLs. As far as the setup goes, it's the only optical drive I have. It's set to master, connected straight to the power supply and at the end of the IDE cable. I've tried making it a slave and using the middle of the cable, and have even replaced the cable. All to no avail. I'll give the single layers a shot and let you guys know. EDIT - Same exact error with the verbatim single layers Edited June 30, 2007 by spusaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spusaf Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 Also how to I see if I have these JMicron drivers, all I see under SATA and IDE controllers are either MS or VIA drivers, should I try and download and install them? These 965 chipsets seem to be having serious issues with the IDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Ignore the JMicron bit, you have a Via controller on that board by the looks of it, not a JMicron one. So if anything, you should be looking for Via drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 http://www.biostar.com.tw/upload/Driver/Ch...013/infinst.exe The Intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 have you applied the chipset inf patch/driver? it's fairly new also have you updated vista, there were some patches to address that legacy ide driver there's another strange setting in power management acpi for ide/raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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