Well I was mainly worried about just the disc being the problem, I've updated my firmware from 1.06 to 1.10 ( the last update was from '07 that's how far behind I am )
I've got to restart the computer and I'll try again, if it still isn't working I'll post the log etc.
Was just making sure that DVD+R is what you use to copy games as I've seen a lot of talk of using dual layered.