Defenestration Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 As I've mentioned in one of my other posts, I like to do other things on the computer while burning. Because of this, the priority of the Imgburn process should be dynamically increased to High while burning to stop the Device buffer from emptying when using other apps. It can be set back to Normal priority when the burn has completed.
Defenestration Posted June 11, 2006 Author Posted June 11, 2006 Hmmmm...... While burning the second copy of the ISO, Task Manager showed the priority of Imgburn as High, so it would appear that my suggestion is already implemented. I'm sure that it was set to Normal for the first copy, although I will check the next time I do a burn. FYI, the reason I asked was because the Device buffer kept emptying everytime I switched to another app (even though I wasn't actually doing anything). While the second copy was burning, the Device kept flicking between 50% and 100% when another app had the focus. I've never had a similar problem with Nero, although I suppose it may be to do with the differences in how often Nero and ImgBurn obtain and update this information. Maybe Nero doesn't update as much or averages more. Is there a separate app which I can use to monitor the Device buffer of the drive in real-time, so I can check the actual filled device buffer capacity while burning in Nero (preferably freeware or trialware) ?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 It's always been set to high during a burn - as you've seen. No need to try and check for/prove otherwise Sorry, I don't know of any tools to monitor drive buffer usage outside of the burning app itself. Most apps (ImgBurn included) prevent other tools from looking at the drive during a burn, so they wouldn't work anyway. I'm somewhat amazed you see such a difference when switching apps, I have about 20 windows open and mine doesn't really budge! Take a look at the graph data output using DVDInfoPro. The buffer usage/cpu usage graphs might some some interesting stuff.
Defenestration Posted June 11, 2006 Author Posted June 11, 2006 I'm somewhat amazed you see such a difference when switching apps, I have about 20 windows open and mine doesn't really budge! Take a look at the graph data output using DVDInfoPro. The buffer usage/cpu usage graphs might some some interesting stuff. Likewise, I don't completely understand what's going on although I've heard that NEC drives tend to exhibit that kind of behaviour whereby they drain the device buffer. It's just the way they're designed. With this in mind, it's very possible that Nero either doesn't update this info as much, or does some kind of averaging. I will keep an eye on it with future burns and post back here if I uncover any more info, and also check out the graph data for future burns. That leads me onto yet another feature request.... The optional ability to have ImgBurn automatically save/export the graph data after a burn.
cornholio7 Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 The optional ability to have ImgBurn automatically save/export the graph data after a burn that is already in settings
Defenestration Posted June 12, 2006 Author Posted June 12, 2006 Oops! After checking again, in Settings->Write I found it - "Auto 'Export Graph Data'". Thanks. I've only recently enabled animations in Proxomitron, and no offence, but after seeing your avatar made me remember why I initially disabled them in the first place. I like the smiley animations, so I'm afraid your avatar has been added to my Ad-Muncher exclusion list - Sorry!
kevdriver Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Defenestration, Cornys app goes way back, back to an old forum we were all on............ #39;( . I'm sure he could find a better animation for it but it just wouldn't be Corny anymore then..............
cornholio7 Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 i couldn't care less if the guy likes it or not , neither does he anymore as he has disabled it
Defenestration Posted June 12, 2006 Author Posted June 12, 2006 Please don't take it the wrong way Corny (if I may call you that ?) - It was meant as a friendly jibe. Have a drink or two with me to show no hard feelings BTW way Kev, what the bloody hell are you doing with a picture of my girlfriend for your av ?
cornholio7 Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 you can call me corny, and theres no hard feelings, if you dont like it thats up to you. you can't please everyone all the time oh and about that drink... make it a coffee or cola and i'll join you
Flash Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) Now the coffee break is over back to the original problem. Buffer fluctuation like this can be caused by several things Insufficient memory Buffer insufficient for your system (Try increasing the buffer size) Source hard drive the same as the swap file hard drive. Burner, Source or System Hard drives on the same IDE channel Antivirus software kicking in too fiercely. This problem is at its worst for me with my Laptop because I can only have one Internal Hard Drive and one Internal Burner. I do not suffer this problem with my main rigs where my source Hard Drives and Burners are all on their own IDE channels No can I go back to my Hibernation? Edited June 12, 2006 by Flash
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Now the coffee break is over back to the original problem. Buffer fluctuation like this can be caused by several things Insufficient memory Source hard drive the same as the swap file hard drive. Burner, Source or System Hard drives on the same IDE channel Antivirus software kicking in too fiercely. This problem is at its worst for me with my Laptop because I can only have one Internal Hard Drive and one Internal Burner. I do not suffer this problem with my main rigs where my source Hard Drives and Burners are all on their own IDE channels You forgot DMA issues, dodgy IDE controllers, 40wire ribbon cables on 80wire controllers, optical drives on RAID/SATA controllers, faulty firmware etc. etc. but not a bad summary. We are well aware of what causes buffering problems, the author of this software in particular. The original poster is also computer literate so stating the obvious causes of buffering problems is pointless. The countless variants of drives, media, background processes and other hardware are the source of the majority of problems we see here. No can I go back to my Hibernation? By all means. Unless you have a question.
Flash Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Now can I go back to my Hibernation? By all means. Unless you have a question. What time is the next coffee break?
volvofl10 Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 and trains running off the end of the tracks cause buffer problems as well .Can we have irish coffee next time
photo_angel2004 Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 and trains running off the end of the tracks cause buffer problems as well .Can we have irish coffee next time That what I am drinking now love it!
lfcrule1972 Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Sigh - this topic is really hitting the buffers now
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