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Hello

 

1st post so be gentle please!!!!!

 

Got a so called verb 50gb BDR-RE from ebay.....it arrived very quickly but the Disc Id says TDK WBA i think

 

Is this correct....can burn it ok just cannot get it to play in standalone blu ray player LG BD370

 

Any Help ??????

 

Cheerz

 

James

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Hello

 

Thanks for the reply

 

What would be the correct Disc Id ?????? Where the best place to obtain a verb 50gig re-writeable???

 

Think i need to get in touch with the ebay seller

 

Cheerz

 

James

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At this moment in time, I have no idea!

 

The 25GB BD-RE is 'VERBAT-IM0-000' so I'd expect true Verbatim disc to use something similar.

 

Are yours actually branded as Verbatim?

 

They've only quite recently started producing them.

 

http://www.verbatim-europe.co.uk/en_1/product_bd-re-dl-50gb-2x-5-pack-jewel-case_3_0_33351.html

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If you haven't already left feedback, make a point of mentioning the actual dye the discs use in it. :)

 

I've ordered some of the proper Verbatim BD-RE 50GB discs now (i.e. the exact ones I linked you to - via Amazon.de)

 

Once they arrive, I'll try and remember to update this thread with whatever dye/MID they use.

 

Going back to your initial playback problem, do you have a burn+verify log handy?

 

At this point, it's hard to know if the player has an issue with the discs (full stop), just with that burn (or perhaps the formatting method used) or with the content on the disc.

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Hello

 

Just found those verb's on the amazon.de.....i have a amazon.co.uk log in...can i order via this????

 

As for the imgburn log...did not keep it....did what the guide said..udf 2.50 etc...ripped the movie using dvdfab to folder...am i better doing the .iso???

 

Thanks

 

James

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Yeah, I just fumbled my way though the .de site because they were cheaper that way :P

 

Did you use ImgBurn manually (i.e. 'standalone') or did a 3rd party app call it up? If you did it manually, the logs should still be there - you can access them via the 'Help' menu.

 

Failing that, copy stuff off the BD-RE disc to hdd, then reburn manually with ImgBurn... then you'll have a log to show me :)

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Hello

 

Here's the log

 

I 19:57:23 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 19:57:23 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 19:57:23 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,248 KB - Available: 1,192,508 KB

I 19:57:23 Initialising SPTI...

I 19:57:23 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 19:57:25 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 19:57:25 -> Drive 2 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-215D 1.18 (E:) (ATA)

I 19:57:25 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 BD-RE!

I 19:59:17 Operation Started!

I 19:59:17 Device: [2:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 19:59:17 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000) (Speeds: 2x)

I 19:59:17 Quick Erase: No

I 19:59:17 Format Properly: Yes

I 19:59:17 Format Size: Preferred

I 19:59:17 Format With Full Certification: Yes

I 19:59:17 Format Without Spare Areas: No

I 19:59:17 Erasing Disc...

I 22:38:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 02:39:30

I 22:38:47 Operation Started!

I 22:38:47 Device: [2:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 22:38:47 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000) (Speeds: 2x)

I 22:38:47 Media Sectors: 23,652,352

I 22:38:47 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 22:38:47 Zeroing Sectors...

I 01:51:12 Synchronising Cache...

I 01:51:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 03:12:24 - Total Duration: 05:51:55

I 01:51:12 Average Write Rate: 4,097 KB/s (0.9x)

I 07:56:42 Operation Started!

I 07:56:42 Building Image Tree...

I 07:56:43 Calculating Totals...

I 07:56:43 Preparing Image...

I 07:56:43 Contents: 9 Files, 15 Folders

I 07:56:43 Content Type: BD Video

I 07:56:43 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 07:56:43 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 07:56:43 Volume Label: [Not Configured]

I 07:56:43 Size: 28,949,299,768 bytes

I 07:56:43 Sectors: 14,135,407

I 07:56:43 Image Size: 28,950,331,392 bytes

I 07:56:43 Image Sectors: 14,135,904

I 07:56:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 07:57:06 Operation Started!

I 07:57:06 Building Image Tree...

I 07:57:08 Calculating Totals...

I 07:57:08 Preparing Image...

I 07:57:08 Contents: 9 Files, 15 Folders

I 07:57:08 Content Type: BD Video

I 07:57:08 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 07:57:08 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 07:57:08 Volume Label: 01278794_SHOOTER

I 07:57:08 Size: 28,949,299,768 bytes

I 07:57:08 Sectors: 14,135,407

I 07:57:08 Image Size: 28,950,331,392 bytes

I 07:57:08 Image Sectors: 14,135,904

I 07:57:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:04

I 07:57:11 Operation Started!

I 07:57:11 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 07:57:11 Source File Sectors: 14,135,904 (MODE1/2048)

I 07:57:11 Source File Size: 28,950,331,392 bytes

I 07:57:11 Source File Volume Identifier: 01278794_SHOOTER

I 07:57:11 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3EAE3F2300D7B1EF

I 07:57:11 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.5.0

I 07:57:11 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 07:57:11 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 07:57:11 Destination Device: [2:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 07:57:11 Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000) (Speeds: 2x)

I 07:57:11 Destination Media Sectors: 23,652,352

I 07:57:11 Write Mode: BD

I 07:57:11 Write Type: DAO

I 07:57:11 Write Speed: 1x

I 07:57:11 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 07:57:11 Link Size: Auto

I 07:57:11 Lock Volume: Yes

I 07:57:11 Test Mode: No

I 07:57:11 OPC: No

I 07:57:11 BURN-Proof: Enabled

W 07:57:11 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 4,496 KB/s (1x), Got: 8,991 KB/s (2x)

I 07:57:11 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 07:57:12 Writing LeadIn...

I 07:57:15 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 14135903)

I 07:57:15 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 14135903)

I 07:57:15 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)

I 09:36:07 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 12219392 - 14135903)

I 09:51:52 Synchronising Cache...

I 09:51:53 Exporting Graph Data...

I 09:51:53 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Andy T\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH10LS30_1.00_14-MAY-2011_07-57_TDKBLD-Wfa-000_1x.ibg

I 09:51:53 Export Successfully Completed!

I 09:51:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:54:42

I 09:51:53 Average Write Rate: 4,111 KB/s (0.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,824 KB/s (1.1x)

I 10:45:26 Close Request Acknowledged

I 10:45:26 Closing Down...

I 10:45:26 Shutting down SPTI...

I 10:45:26 ImgBurn closed!

 

will try and order a verb 50gb re.....really new to this blu ray.....any recomends on 50gb dl blu rays blanks...on a budget but with qualitiy in mind !!!!!

 

Cheerz

 

James

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You do have the 1.00-09 / 1.00-A9 firmware installed yeah?

 

http://www.firmwarehq.com/LG/BH10LS30/files.html

 

Right click the drive selection box and click 'Capabilities'. It should list the full firmware version info for your drive - rather than just '1.00'.

 

I see you've formatted that disc with spare areas enabled. Maybe your player wants them disabled? Go back into the settings and re-enable/check the 'Prefer Format Without Spare Areas' box (it's on the 'Write' tab). Then do another full format.

 

Setting the write speed to 1x doesn't do anything, the drive only supports those discs at 2x.

 

I 07:57:11 Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000) (Speeds: 2x)

 

Verify your burns via the little 'Verify' checkbox on the main 'Write' mode screen.

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Hello

 

Yep correct firmware...updated as soon as got the burner

 

did the format with no free spaces first when the disc arrived....thought i would try format with free spaces....made no difference to playback on LG BD370 !!!!!

 

Just tried to format the disc again....bloody thing stopped at 54% and would not move on...had to force eject!!!!

 

on a brighter note ebay seller has got in touch...will see what happens

 

How much did you pay for the verbs....£19.00 for one 50gb re seems a bit high

 

Many thanks

 

James

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Hello

 

Do you have a spare one for sale out of your box of five ????

 

Here's the reply from the ebay seller

 

Hello James, yes the MID code is from TDK but the discs is sold under Mitusbishi-Verbatim brand.

despite that we know about this MID code we are forbidden to advertise the discs under their MID

code because thats not the way makers sell their discs.

maxell, Imation, JVC and even panasonic and TDK have some of their discs with TDK MID code but it

doesn't mean they don't manufacture their discs, they only take TDK MID code and add their own

proprietary hard coat technology like accucore in sony or Azo blue in Verbatim.

 

Please can you tell us more about the troubles?

 

kind regards.

 

Unsure what to say to the bloke??

 

Cheerz

 

James

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Whilst I'd love to be able to say I have a spare one, I would prefer to keep them as I'll use them for testing - sorry :(

 

I'd say to hold fire on replying to the ebay seller if possible - just until I can report back which MID my Verbatim discs use.

 

Are yours actually stamped with the Verbatim brand name anywhere or are they just plain white / unbranded ones?

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Hello

 

No probs re the disc...might have to bite the pillow and smash my piggy bank to get one!!!!!

 

It says on the disc Mitusbishi KAGAKU MEDIA.CO.LTD

 

I am also wondering if the standalone player is part of the problem.....it plays the sony 25gb RE no issues....Might have to buy a standard 50gb write

once only disc and try that....Player is LG BD370...any ideas????

 

Great Help....A Big Thank You

 

Cheerz

 

James

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Ok, mine arrived :)

 

Yours definitely aren't *proper* Verbatim BD-RE DL discs. :(

 

HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL07 (ATA)

Current Profile: BD-RE

 

Disc Information:

Status: Empty

State of Last Session: Empty

Erasable: Yes

Supported Write Speeds: 2x

 

BD Disc Information (L0):

Disc ID: VERBAT-IM1-000

Disc Type: BD-RE

Disc Size: 120mm

Disc Class: 0

Disc Version: 2

Number of Layers: 2

Layer Type: Rewritable

DVD Layer Present: No

CD Layer Present: No

Channel Bit Length: 74.5nm (25GB Per Layer)

BCA Present: Yes

Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified

First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072

Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494

 

BD Disc Information (L1):

Disc ID: VERBAT-IM1-000

Disc Type: BD-RE

Disc Size: 120mm

Disc Class: 0

Disc Version: 2

Number of Layers: 2

Layer Type: Rewritable

DVD Layer Present: No

CD Layer Present: No

Channel Bit Length: 74.5nm (25GB Per Layer)

BCA Present: Yes

Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified

First PAA of Data Zone: 2,535,808

Last PAA of Data Zone: 4,063,230

 

Format Capacities:

DT: 0x01 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 36864

FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

 

Performance (Write Speed):

Descriptor 1...

-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 24438783 (0x0174E7FF)

-> RS: 8,991 KB/s (2x) - WS: 8,991 KB/s (2x)

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Hello

 

Thanks for the info...will email Mr Japan and see what he says...

 

Got the rj45 cable and updated the firmware....and as a bonus i can now watch youtube vids on the telly !!!!!!!

 

Still will not play my so called "verb" dual layer....need to get a 50gb write once dual layer and see if that works

 

A big thank you for your help

 

Cheerz

 

James

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