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I get a notification "Oh No" operation failed. Notification says Close, Retry etc so I just close operation.  Then I look at the drive and the disc is full so I try playback and it plays back ok, just started recently. 

 

Removed IMG and downloaded and reinstalled still did it?   Note: Does not do it all the time?

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Burnt 2 disc's of Pi and same thing with both yet the disc's are OK.  Happened several times just recently. 

 

I 23:07:33 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!

I 23:07:33 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 23:07:33 Total Physical Memory: 12,581,988 KB  -  Available: 10,974,856 KB

W 23:07:33 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 23:07:33 Initialising SPTI...

I 23:07:33 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 23:07:34 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7280S 1.01 (F:) (SATA)

I 23:07:34 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 23:07:34 -> Drive 3 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (H:) (SCSI)

I 23:07:34 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!

I 23:09:19 Operation Started!

I 23:09:19 Source File: D:\a Movie File\Life of Pi\LIFE_OF_PI.ISO

I 23:09:19 Source File Sectors: 2,285,850 (MODE1/2048)

I 23:09:19 Source File Size: 4,681,420,800 bytes

I 23:09:19 Source File Volume Identifier: LIFE_OF_PI

I 23:09:19 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 00739954DVDSHRNK

I 23:09:19 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 23:09:19 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 23:09:19 Destination Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 23:09:19 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 23:09:19 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 23:09:19 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 23:09:19 Write Mode: DVD

I 23:09:19 Write Type: DAO

I 23:09:19 Write Speed: MAX

I 23:09:19 Link Size: Auto

I 23:09:19 Lock Volume: Yes

I 23:09:19 Test Mode: No

I 23:09:19 OPC: No

I 23:09:19 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 23:09:19 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 22,160 KB/s (16x)

I 23:09:23 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)

I 23:09:25 Writing LeadIn...

I 23:09:59 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:09:59 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:14:58 Synchronising Cache...

I 23:15:07 Exporting Graph Data...

I 23:15:07 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_TUESDAY-MARCH-26-2013_11-09_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 23:15:07 Export Successfully Completed!

I 23:15:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:48

I 23:15:07 Average Write Rate: 15,341 KB/s (11.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,460 KB/s (16.2x)

I 23:15:07 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 23:15:14 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 23:15:28 Device Ready!

I 23:15:31 Operation Started!

I 23:15:31 Source Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 23:15:31 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 23:15:31 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 23:15:31 Image File: D:\a Movie File\Life of Pi\LIFE_OF_PI.ISO

I 23:15:31 Image File Sectors: 2,285,850 (MODE1/2048)

I 23:15:31 Image File Size: 4,681,420,800 bytes

I 23:15:31 Image File Volume Identifier: LIFE_OF_PI

I 23:15:31 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 00739954DVDSHRNK

I 23:15:31 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 23:15:31 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 23:15:31 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 23:15:37 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:15:37 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

W 23:15:47 Failed to Read Sectors 2144 - 2175 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 23:15:53 Failed to Read Sector 2144 - Reason: No Seek Complete

W 23:15:53 Sector 2144 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

E 23:16:04 Failed to Read Sector 2144 - Reason: No Seek Complete

E 23:16:04 Sector 2144 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

E 23:16:04 Failed to Verify Sectors!

I 23:16:05 Exporting Graph Data...

I 23:16:05 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_TUESDAY-MARCH-26-2013_11-09_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 23:16:05 Export Successfully Completed!

E 23:16:05 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:32

I 23:16:05 Average Verify Rate: 158 KB/s (0.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 847 KB/s (0.6x)

I 23:21:45 Operation Started!

I 23:21:45 Source File: D:\a Movie File\Life of Pi\LIFE_OF_PI.ISO

I 23:21:45 Source File Sectors: 2,285,850 (MODE1/2048)

I 23:21:45 Source File Size: 4,681,420,800 bytes

I 23:21:45 Source File Volume Identifier: LIFE_OF_PI

I 23:21:45 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 00739954DVDSHRNK

I 23:21:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 23:21:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 23:21:45 Destination Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 23:21:45 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 23:21:45 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 23:21:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 23:21:45 Write Mode: DVD

I 23:21:45 Write Type: DAO

I 23:21:45 Write Speed: MAX

I 23:21:45 Link Size: Auto

I 23:21:45 Lock Volume: Yes

I 23:21:45 Test Mode: No

I 23:21:45 OPC: No

I 23:21:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 23:21:45 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 22,160 KB/s (16x)

I 23:21:50 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)

I 23:21:51 Writing LeadIn...

I 23:22:27 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:22:27 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:27:29 Synchronising Cache...

I 23:27:40 Exporting Graph Data...

I 23:27:40 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_TUESDAY-MARCH-26-2013_11-21_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 23:27:40 Export Successfully Completed!

I 23:27:40 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:54

I 23:27:40 Average Write Rate: 15,138 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,460 KB/s (16.2x)

I 23:27:40 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 23:27:46 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 23:28:01 Device Ready!

I 23:28:05 Operation Started!

I 23:28:05 Source Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 23:28:05 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 23:28:05 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 23:28:05 Image File: D:\a Movie File\Life of Pi\LIFE_OF_PI.ISO

I 23:28:05 Image File Sectors: 2,285,850 (MODE1/2048)

I 23:28:05 Image File Size: 4,681,420,800 bytes

I 23:28:05 Image File Volume Identifier: LIFE_OF_PI

I 23:28:05 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 00739954DVDSHRNK

I 23:28:05 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 23:28:05 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 23:28:05 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 23:28:11 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

I 23:28:11 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285849)

W 23:28:57 Failed to Read Sectors 178560 - 178591 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 23:29:03 Failed to Read Sector 178560 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 23:29:03 Sector 178560 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

E 23:35:25 Failed to Read Sector 178560 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 23:35:25 Sector 178560 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB

E 23:35:25 Failed to Verify Sectors!

I 23:35:26 Exporting Graph Data...

I 23:35:26 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_TUESDAY-MARCH-26-2013_11-21_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 23:35:26 Export Successfully Completed!

E 23:35:26 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:07:19

I 23:35:26 Average Verify Rate: 822 KB/s (0.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 10,938 KB/s (7.9x)

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Forgot to mention that I did insure that AnyDVD was closed on the second burn but still get the same audible message,  "Oh no operation failed"

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Also i did just check the disc at various points but it looks OK, I did not run it from start to finish but I have the start of the movie along with various scenes and the end credits, as that is all I usually check. 

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Playing a disc doesn't necessarily cause the player to read every sector on the disc, verifying does. Playback often doesn't care about the odd unreadable sector either (it skips them), verifying does.

 

If your drive keeps producing unreadable discs, either buy different disc that the drive does a better job of burning or try adjusting the write speed down to 8x.

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Today the first disc I tried failed but very quickly?  I then again cleaned the ASUS burner/player and on the 2nd try it gave me the audible "Oh No" but when I look at the "E" Drive it says 0 bytes free of 4.35GB and it plays OK as I did view the entire movie.  “The discs” are the same I have used for several months.  Most often it doesn't produce an unreadable disc that does happen but not often. It just gives me that message it failed but it hasnt failed most times as I see a full disc and they play OK?   I can tell by looking at the back of the disc that it looks full, usually when it fails it isn't in the burner very long.  Should I try removing all aspects of the program and reloading it or any other ideas?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

 

 

//****************************************\\

;   ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 - Log

;   Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 15:46:04

; \\****************************************//

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I 15:30:01 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!

I 15:30:01 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 15:30:01 Total Physical Memory: 12,581,988 KB  -  Available: 10,520,016 KB

I 15:30:01 Initialising SPTI...

I 15:30:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 15:30:01 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7280S 1.01 (F:) (SATA)

I 15:30:02 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 15:30:02 -> Drive 3 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (H:) (SCSI)

I 15:30:02 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!

I 15:30:09 Operation Started!

I 15:30:09 Source File: D:\a Movie File\a a JR'S Videos\Rise of the Gaurdians\RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS.ISO

I 15:30:09 Source File Sectors: 2,285,867 (MODE1/2048)

I 15:30:09 Source File Size: 4,681,455,616 bytes

I 15:30:09 Source File Volume Identifier: RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS

I 15:30:09 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 017CC623DVDSHRNK

I 15:30:09 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 15:30:09 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 15:30:09 Destination Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 15:30:09 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 15:30:09 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 15:30:09 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 15:30:09 Write Mode: DVD

I 15:30:09 Write Type: DAO

I 15:30:09 Write Speed: MAX

I 15:30:09 Link Size: Auto

I 15:30:09 Lock Volume: Yes

I 15:30:09 Test Mode: No

I 15:30:09 OPC: No

I 15:30:09 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 15:30:09 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 22,160 KB/s (16x)

I 15:30:14 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)

I 15:30:14 Writing LeadIn...

I 15:30:50 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

I 15:30:50 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

I 15:35:49 Synchronising Cache...

I 15:35:58 Exporting Graph Data...

I 15:35:58 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_WEDNESDAY-MARCH-27-2013_3-30_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 15:35:58 Export Successfully Completed!

I 15:35:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:49

I 15:35:58 Average Write Rate: 15,341 KB/s (11.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,438 KB/s (16.2x)

I 15:35:58 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 15:36:05 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 15:36:20 Device Ready!

I 15:36:24 Operation Started!

I 15:36:24 Source Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 15:36:24 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 15:36:24 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 15:36:24 Image File: D:\a Movie File\a a JR'S Videos\Rise of the Gaurdians\RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS.ISO

I 15:36:24 Image File Sectors: 2,285,867 (MODE1/2048)

I 15:36:24 Image File Size: 4,681,455,616 bytes

I 15:36:24 Image File Volume Identifier: RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS

I 15:36:24 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 017CC623DVDSHRNK

I 15:36:24 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 15:36:24 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 15:36:24 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 15:36:29 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

I 15:36:29 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

W 15:40:00 Failed to Read Sectors 1360448 - 1360479 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 15:40:05 Failed to Read Sector 1360448 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

W 15:40:05 Sector 1360448 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB

E 15:45:54 Failed to Read Sector 1360448 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

E 15:45:54 Sector 1360448 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB

E 15:45:54 Failed to Verify Sectors!

I 15:45:55 Exporting Graph Data...

I 15:45:55 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_WEDNESDAY-MARCH-27-2013_3-30_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 15:45:55 Export Successfully Completed!

E 15:45:55 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:09:30

I 15:45:55 Average Verify Rate: 4,815 KB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 18,418 KB/s (13.3x)

I 15:45:57 Close Request Acknowledged

I 15:45:57 Closing Down...

I 15:46:04 Shutting down SPTI...

I 15:46:04 ImgBurn closed!

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;

; //****************************************\\

;   ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 - Log

;   Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 13:22:20

; \\****************************************//

;

;

I 13:11:27 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!

I 13:11:27 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)

I 13:11:27 Total Physical Memory: 12,581,988 KB  -  Available: 10,108,948 KB

I 13:11:27 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:11:27 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:11:28 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7280S 1.01 (F:) (SATA)

I 13:11:28 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 13:11:28 -> Drive 3 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (H:) (SCSI)

I 13:11:28 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!

I 13:14:43 Operation Started!

I 13:14:43 Source File: D:\a Movie File\a a JR'S Videos\Rise of the Gaurdians\RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS.ISO

I 13:14:43 Source File Sectors: 2,285,867 (MODE1/2048)

I 13:14:43 Source File Size: 4,681,455,616 bytes

I 13:14:43 Source File Volume Identifier: RISE_OF_THE_GUARDIANS

I 13:14:43 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 017CC623DVDSHRNK

I 13:14:43 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 13:14:43 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 13:14:43 Destination Device: [4:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB04 (E:) (SATA)

I 13:14:43 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1)

I 13:14:43 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x

I 13:14:43 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 13:14:43 Write Mode: DVD

I 13:14:43 Write Type: DAO

I 13:14:43 Write Speed: MAX

I 13:14:43 Link Size: Auto

I 13:14:43 Lock Volume: Yes

I 13:14:43 Test Mode: No

I 13:14:43 OPC: No

I 13:14:43 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 13:14:43 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 22,160 KB/s (16x)

I 13:14:49 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)

I 13:14:49 Writing LeadIn...

I 13:15:24 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

I 13:15:24 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285866)

W 13:15:58 Failed to Write Sectors 4096 - 4127 - Reason: Unknown (Write Error) (ASC: 0x0C, ASCQ: 0x81)

W 13:15:58 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

W 13:15:58 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 13:15:58 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write

E 13:17:40 Failed to Write Sectors 4096 - 4127 - Reason: Unknown (Write Error) (ASC: 0x0C, ASCQ: 0x81)

E 13:17:40 Next Writable Address: 0

I 13:17:40 Synchronising Cache...

E 13:17:46 Failed to Write Image!

I 13:17:46 Exporting Graph Data...

I 13:17:46 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S223C_SB04_WEDNESDAY-MARCH-27-2013_1-14_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg

I 13:17:46 Export Successfully Completed!

E 13:17:46 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:02

I 13:17:46 Average Write Rate: 60 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 60 KB/s (0.0x)

I 13:22:19 Close Request Acknowledged

I 13:22:19 Closing Down...

I 13:22:20 Shutting down SPTI...

I 13:22:20 ImgBurn closed!

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In the last session log it fails at to verify the disc that it just burned seconds ago.

 

Seems to be a drive problem. Could be heat related.

 

Try the disc in another drive/computer to make an image out of it.

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