mario64 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Hi all, Looking for some help here. I'm using 2.5.8.0 and attempting to burn some bin/cue and iso/cue images. I've tried across three different computers using four different optical drives and two different CD-R media including Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. Every single burn produces a verification failure. It makes no sense to me that this could be a media and/or drive issue. The common denominator is Imgburn. Are there known issues verifying these types of CD images? Are there some types of images which simply cannot be burned 1:1? I'm just trying to understand what could be causing this. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Post the log please. If this is a repeat of your previous topic, the answers will probably still be the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, LIGHTNING UK! said: Post the log please. If this is a repeat of your previous topic, the answers will probably still be the same! Will do. No these are totally different images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Could be corrupt images. Did you download them off the Internet? If so, there's a higher likelihood the images themselves are corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, dbminter said: Could be corrupt images. Did you download them off the Internet? If so, there's a higher likelihood the images themselves are corrupt. Thank you. I'm seeing this across multiple images of different types but I'll test again with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) I 22:53:52 Operation Started! I 22:53:52 Source File: C:\Users\james\Downloads\Test\Test.cue I 22:53:52 Source File Sectors: 265,512 (MODE2/FORM2/2352) I 22:53:52 Source File Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 22:53:52 Source File File System(s): None I 22:53:52 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 22:53:52 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.) I 22:53:52 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 22:53:52 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844 I 22:53:52 Write Mode: CD I 22:53:52 Write Type: SAO I 22:53:52 Write Speed: 10x I 22:53:52 Lock Volume: Yes I 22:53:52 Test Mode: No I 22:53:52 OPC: No I 22:53:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:53:52 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 1,764 KB/s (10x) I 22:53:52 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 22:53:52 Writing LeadIn... I 22:54:21 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 22:54:21 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM2/2352, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 23:00:10 Synchronising Cache... I 23:00:26 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:00:26 Graph Data File: C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_SP80NB80_RF01_MONDAY-JULY-4-2022_10-53_PM_97m26s66f_10x.ibg I 23:00:26 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:00:26 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:34 I 23:00:26 Average Write Rate: 1,747 KiB/s (8.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,787 KiB/s (9.0x) I 23:00:26 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 23:00:41 Waiting for device to become ready... I 23:00:47 Device Ready! I 23:00:47 Operation Started! I 23:00:47 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 23:00:47 Source Media Type: CD-ROM I 23:00:47 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 5x, 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x I 23:00:47 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 23:00:47 Source Media Sectors: 265,512 I 23:00:47 Source Media Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 23:00:47 Image File: C:\Users\james\Downloads\Test\Test.cue I 23:00:47 Image File Sectors: 265,512 (MODE2/FORM2/2352) I 23:00:47 Image File Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 23:00:47 Image File File System(s): None I 23:00:47 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 23:00:48 Read Speed - Effective: 24x I 23:00:49 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 23:00:49 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM2/2352, LBA: 0 - 265511) W 23:04:36 Miscompare at LBA: 265509, Offset: 15 W 23:04:36 Device: 0x02 W 23:04:36 Image File: 0x01 W 23:04:36 Total Errors in Sector: 5 W 23:04:36 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 23:04:36 Verifying Sectors... W 23:04:36 Miscompare at LBA: 265510, Offset: 15 W 23:04:37 Device: 0x02 W 23:04:37 Image File: 0x01 W 23:04:37 Total Errors in Sector: 280 W 23:04:37 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 23:04:37 Verifying Sectors... W 23:04:37 Miscompare at LBA: 265511, Offset: 15 W 23:04:37 Device: 0x02 W 23:04:37 Image File: 0x01 W 23:04:37 Total Errors in Sector: 276 W 23:04:37 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 23:04:37 Verifying Sectors... I 23:04:38 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:04:38 Graph Data File: C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_SP80NB80_RF01_MONDAY-JULY-4-2022_10-53_PM_97m26s66f_10x.ibg I 23:04:38 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:04:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:50 I 23:04:38 Average Verify Rate: 2,674 KiB/s (13.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,782 KiB/s (19.1x) Edited July 5, 2022 by mario64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 Am I understanding correctly the drive corrected those 5 errors? Should I just burn with Ignore non UserData bytes enabled and not worry about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I do notice you're using CMC Magentics discs, so those are probably the cheap Verbatim discs. Do you have a log for a Taiyo Yuden burn? If they're CMC as well, that might explain the repeated failures even across multiple PC's and burners. You can rule out the hardware, probably, because you've tried multiple different combinations of those. The software can most likely be ruled out because many others use it just fine. So, what would be unique regardless of what you've tried? Either the images themselves are corrupt, since those could be used across multiple device combinations, or the discs you're using could be causing the problem if they're all CMC, which is the worst media out there. I also notice there is apparently something wrong with this image file in particular, it seems, as some error correcting was done on it. It does appear the drive corrected the errors present in the image file. I don't know about your second question, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 I 10:29:48 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 10:29:48 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200) I 10:29:48 Total Physical Memory: 32,948,388 KiB - Available: 16,746,564 KiB I 10:29:48 Initialising SPTI... I 10:29:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 10:29:48 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RF01-18 (G:) (USB 2.0) I 10:29:48 -> Drive 2 - Info: DiscSoft Virtual 1.0 (E:) (Virtual) I 10:29:48 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM XL! I 10:29:54 Operation Started! I 10:29:54 Source File: C:\Users\james\Downloads\Test\Test.cue I 10:29:54 Source File Sectors: 265,512 (MODE2/FORM2/2352) I 10:29:54 Source File Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 10:29:54 Source File File System(s): None I 10:29:54 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 10:29:54 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s01f, Taiyo Yuden Co.) I 10:29:54 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 10:29:54 Destination Media Sectors: 359,845 I 10:29:54 Write Mode: CD I 10:29:54 Write Type: SAO I 10:29:54 Write Speed: 10x I 10:29:54 Lock Volume: Yes I 10:29:54 Test Mode: No I 10:29:54 OPC: No I 10:29:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 10:29:54 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 1,764 KB/s (10x) I 10:29:55 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 10:29:55 Writing LeadIn... I 10:30:22 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 10:30:22 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM2/2352, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 10:36:12 Synchronising Cache... I 10:36:29 Exporting Graph Data... I 10:36:29 Graph Data File: C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_SP80NB80_RF01_TUESDAY-JULY-5-2022_10-29_AM_97m24s01f_10x.ibg I 10:36:29 Export Successfully Completed! I 10:36:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:34 I 10:36:29 Average Write Rate: 1,747 KiB/s (8.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,785 KiB/s (9.0x) I 10:36:29 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 10:36:49 Waiting for device to become ready... I 10:36:54 Device Ready! I 10:36:54 Operation Started! I 10:36:54 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM SP80NB80 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 10:36:54 Source Media Type: CD-ROM I 10:36:54 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 5x, 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x I 10:36:54 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 10:36:54 Source Media Sectors: 265,512 I 10:36:54 Source Media Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 10:36:54 Image File: C:\Users\james\Downloads\Test\Test.cue I 10:36:54 Image File Sectors: 265,512 (MODE2/FORM2/2352) I 10:36:54 Image File Size: 624,484,224 bytes I 10:36:54 Image File File System(s): None I 10:36:54 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 10:36:56 Read Speed - Effective: 24x I 10:36:56 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 265511) I 10:36:56 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM2/2352, LBA: 0 - 265511) W 10:48:41 Miscompare at LBA: 265509, Offset: 15 W 10:48:41 Device: 0x02 W 10:48:41 Image File: 0x01 W 10:48:41 Total Errors in Sector: 5 W 10:48:41 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 10:48:41 Verifying Sectors... W 10:48:42 Miscompare at LBA: 265510, Offset: 15 W 10:48:42 Device: 0x02 W 10:48:42 Image File: 0x01 W 10:48:42 Total Errors in Sector: 280 W 10:48:42 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 10:48:42 Verifying Sectors... W 10:48:42 Miscompare at LBA: 265511, Offset: 15 W 10:48:42 Device: 0x02 W 10:48:42 Image File: 0x01 W 10:48:42 Total Errors in Sector: 276 W 10:48:42 Note: The drive probably corrected the Sync/Header Area because it's wrong in the image file. I 10:48:42 Verifying Sectors... I 10:48:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 10:48:44 Graph Data File: C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_SP80NB80_RF01_TUESDAY-JULY-5-2022_10-29_AM_97m24s01f_10x.ibg I 10:48:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 10:48:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:48 I 10:48:44 Average Verify Rate: 863 KiB/s (4.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1,614 KiB/s (8.2x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Except for the corrections made on the fly at burning, it looks okay. Those are unavoidable as those are errors present in the original image file. However, depending on what was corrected, I can't say how it will affect the final output. What is this image? CD Audio? Software installation disc? Console game disc? One thing you could try is installing some kind of virtual drive software like Virtual CloneDrive, mount this image as a virtual drive, use ImgBurn to create a new image from the mounted virtual drive image, and see if burning that new image to a disc causes any kinds of errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, dbminter said: Except for the corrections made on the fly at burning, it looks okay. Those are unavoidable as those are errors present in the original image file. However, depending on what was corrected, I can't say how it will affect the final output. What is this image? CD Audio? Software installation disc? Console game disc? One thing you could try is installing some kind of virtual drive software like Virtual CloneDrive, mount this image as a virtual drive, use ImgBurn to create a new image from the mounted virtual drive image, and see if burning that new image to a disc causes any kinds of errors. Thanks again for your help. I’ll try that this afternoon. It’s a console game disc yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Well, if it's a console game disc and if you downloaded it, that probably explains a lot. Most of those images found online are corrupt in some manner or another because whoever made the original image didn't know precisely how to process the source disc. Making images of console game discs always was a bit of a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Sometime they were authored/pressed in a way that can't be reproduced by a writer unless RAW mode is used - and ImgBurn doesn't do RAW. The drives do a bit of a 'sanity check' on what's being burnt and like to correct things. If the disc works, you probably don't need to worry about the issues if they're only in the sync/header areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 Thanks to you both! Is it worth enabling that user preference to filter out these warnings if they don’t actually impact the integrity of the burned disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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