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Msterbeau

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I'm trying to back up a bunch of data to DL disks. I managed to burn two from Nero 6 but then it refused to do anymore. So I installed ImgBurn to see if it worked as well as advertised. So far I've made three coasters using Verbatim media although I had no trouble making a CD-R. In all cases I used the build function to make disk images to burn. Between the first two DL DVD's and the third one I updated the firmware on the drive. (Sony DRU810A)

 

Here's the last log from the last burn attempt:

 

I 22:54:37 Operation Started!

I 22:54:37 Source File: D:\My_Documents\Woodward_Cruise_06.mds

I 22:54:38 Source File Sectors: 4,164,352 (MODE1/2048)

I 22:54:38 Source File Size: 8,528,592,896 bytes

I 22:54:38 Source File Volume Identifier: Woodward_Cruise_06

I 22:54:38 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.1.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 22:54:38 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 22:54:38 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 22:54:38 Destination Device: [3:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0d (F:) (ATA)

I 22:54:38 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)

I 22:54:38 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 22:54:38 Write Mode: DVD

I 22:54:38 Write Type: DAO

I 22:54:38 Write Speed: 2x

I 22:54:38 Link Size: Auto

I 22:54:38 Test Mode: No

I 22:54:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 22:54:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,082,176

I 22:54:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 22:54:38 Filling Buffer...

I 22:54:38 Writing LeadIn...

I 22:54:53 Writing Image...

I 22:54:53 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2082175)

W 22:55:18 Failed to Write Sectors 37312 - 37343 - Write Error

W 22:55:18 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 22:55:18 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 22:55:18 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

E 22:55:49 Failed to Write Sectors 37312 - 37343 - Write Error

I 22:55:49 Synchronising Cache...

I 22:55:50 Closing Track...

I 22:56:03 Finalising Disc...

W 22:57:37 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/2) - Write Error

E 23:12:25 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Write Error

E 23:12:25 Failed to Write Image!

E 23:12:25 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:17:47

I 23:12:25 Average Write Rate: 1,356 KB/s (1.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,334 KB/s (2.4x)

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I 22:54:38 Destination Device: [3:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0d (F:) (ATA)

 

The first thing I'd do is update that firmware to v1.0e before looking for other problems. You can find it here:

 

http://www.sonyisstorage.com/bv_downloads/...d/810A_1.0e.exe

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Updated the firmware. Allowed it to burn max. No change. Another coaster. :-(

 

 

I 07:32:11 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 07:32:11 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 07:32:11 Initialising SPTI...

I 07:32:11 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 07:32:11 Found 1 DVD?RW!

I 07:34:35 Operation Started!

I 07:34:35 Source File: D:\My_Documents\Woodward_Cruise_06.mds

I 07:34:35 Source File Sectors: 4,164,352 (MODE1/2048)

I 07:34:35 Source File Size: 8,528,592,896 bytes

I 07:34:35 Source File Volume Identifier: Woodward_Cruise_06

I 07:34:35 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.1.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 07:34:35 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 07:34:35 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 07:34:35 Destination Device: [3:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0e (F:) (ATA)

I 07:34:35 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)

I 07:34:35 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 07:34:35 Write Mode: DVD

I 07:34:35 Write Type: DAO

I 07:34:35 Write Speed: MAX

I 07:34:35 Link Size: Auto

I 07:34:35 Test Mode: No

I 07:34:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 07:34:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,082,176

I 07:34:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 07:34:36 Filling Buffer...

I 07:34:37 Writing LeadIn...

I 07:35:23 Writing Image...

I 07:35:23 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2082175)

W 07:48:01 Failed to Write Sectors 1170016 - 1170047 - Write Error

W 07:48:01 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 07:48:01 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 07:48:01 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

E 07:52:01 Failed to Write Sectors 1170016 - 1170047 - Write Error

I 07:52:01 Synchronising Cache...

I 07:52:02 Closing Track...

I 07:52:24 Finalising Disc...

W 07:56:06 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/2) - Write Error

E 07:57:00 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Write Error

E 07:57:00 Failed to Write Image!

E 07:57:00 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:22:25

I 07:57:00 Average Write Rate: 2,344 KB/s (1.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,360 KB/s (2.4x)

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Mstrbeau, Most DL discs have a dye formulation that allows a minimal burn speed of 2.4X. If you burn slower the dye may not pick up all the information and you could/will get errors. Irregardless of the rated speeds of DL discs, and I only use Verbatim +Rs, I burn at 2.4X to ensure the best chance of a successful burn.

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Burning at 2.4x didn't work either. This is getting very frustrating....

 

I 20:41:18 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 20:41:18 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 20:41:18 Initialising SPTI...

I 20:41:18 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 20:41:18 Found 1 DVD?RW!

I 20:42:33 Operation Started!

I 20:42:33 Source File: D:\My_Documents\Woodward_Cruise_06.mds

I 20:42:33 Source File Sectors: 4,164,352 (MODE1/2048)

I 20:42:33 Source File Size: 8,528,592,896 bytes

I 20:42:33 Source File Volume Identifier: Woodward_Cruise_06

I 20:42:33 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.1.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 20:42:33 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 20:42:33 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 20:42:33 Destination Device: [3:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0e (F:) (ATA)

I 20:42:33 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)

I 20:42:33 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 20:42:33 Write Mode: DVD

I 20:42:33 Write Type: DAO

I 20:42:33 Write Speed: 2.4x

I 20:42:33 Link Size: Auto

I 20:42:33 Test Mode: No

I 20:42:33 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 20:42:33 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,082,176

I 20:42:33 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 20:42:34 Filling Buffer...

I 20:42:34 Writing LeadIn...

W 20:43:04 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:43:04 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 20:43:21 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:43:21 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 20:43:44 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:43:44 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 20:44:10 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:44:10 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 20:44:40 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:44:40 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 20:45:04 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:45:04 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 20:45:27 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:45:27 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 20:45:47 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:45:47 Retrying (8 of 20)...

I 20:45:54 Abort Request Acknowledged

W 20:46:14 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:46:14 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 20:46:40 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:46:40 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 20:47:11 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:47:11 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 20:47:38 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:47:38 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 20:48:05 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:48:05 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 20:48:31 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:48:31 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 20:48:55 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:48:55 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 20:49:14 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:49:15 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 20:49:39 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:49:39 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 20:50:03 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:50:03 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 20:50:30 Retry Failed - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

W 20:50:30 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 20:50:46 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full

W 20:50:46 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 20:50:46 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full

E 20:58:08 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Session Fixation Error Writing Lead In

I 20:58:08 Synchronising Cache...

I 20:58:09 Closing Track...

I 20:58:10 Finalising Disc...

E 20:58:15 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session

E 20:58:15 Failed to Write Image!

E 20:58:15 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:15:42

I 20:58:15 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

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I have a few questions.

 

1. When you're burning, do you have other applications running at the same time?

 

2. How long have you been using that drive?

 

3. Is the drive connected to the IDE channel by itself (as the master) or is there something else connected to that channel?

 

4. Have you had any successful burns with it?

 

5. Do you have another drive you could use?

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Also this may be a faulty spindle of discs, it would be unlikely but not unheard of. Has this drive ever successfully burnt DVD+R DL Verbatims for say 5 or more discs in a row ?

 

Looks like a few reviewers have seen problems with DL Media and this drive but nothing major:

 

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DV...p;Search=Search

 

Do you have another drive you can check the discs with ? If not I would try and return the discs to wherever you got them from, and then if the new discs are no better RMA the drive.

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I have a few questions.

 

1. When you're burning, do you have other applications running at the same time?

 

2. How long have you been using that drive?

 

3. Is the drive connected to the IDE channel by itself (as the master) or is there something else connected to that channel?

 

4. Have you had any successful burns with it?

 

5. Do you have another drive you could use?

 

1. No

 

2. Over a year. I've only very recently needed to use the DL discs, though.

 

3. The drive is now connected as the master on the IDE channel, with another hardrive as slave. I just did this though. Last week when I started this thread, the drive was by itself.

 

4. I burned a couple DL discs a couple weeks ago using Nero and a different media. Only one of those worked without errors. The other disc seems to work OK but there were errors that popped up. I haven't had a successful but using ImgBurn yet. I've had no troubles making DVD's or CD's.

 

5. I don't have another drive. Certainly not a DL one...

 

 

Question: Does it matter WHAT I'm burning? I'm just backing up a bunch of files from my computer. Mostly digital photos and art. I've been making an image file (ISO) and then (trying) to burn it. Should I bypass the ISO process and just burn the files?

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No it doesn't matter what you're burning.

 

It also doesn't matter if you create the image first or burn on-the-fly, the exact same data is sent to the drive.

 

It just looks to me as if your drive is having mega issues with those discs.

 

In case you've got a dodgy batch of verbatims, perhaps you could buy another lot? You'll use them eventually anyway - right?!

 

If a new batch still won't burn, there must be something up with your drive. As they're only about ?25 now, it's probably cheaper to just buy a new one than it is to keep wasting DL discs!

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I think that, as LUK said, drives being cheap you should get another burner. While you could have a bad batch of discs I have a feeling that your drive is the issue. It would be easier to try some new discs than it would be to change the drive so you have a choice to make.

 

Who makes a good one? (Drive) I'm trying to burn regular DVD-R's... it made one good one and then two coasters. I'm fed up with this crap.

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There are loads of good ones.

 

It's probably worth taking a look around the internet and seeing what's been working well for people.

 

Sony doesn't really make their own drives, they're rebadged versions of someone elses. I tend to avoid the rebadges and go for the REAL makes.

 

I have the following in my PC at the moment:

 

Plextor PX-760A

LG GSA-H22L

Pioneer DVR-111

LiteOn LH-18A1H

Optiarc AD-7173A

BenQ DW1655

 

I'm happy with all of them.

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