Duminas Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 This has been happening a lot with these TDK discs I have, but I can't understand why. There was an error popup that came up (but I since closed it--if something coasters again, I'll edit it in here), but basically... the discs appear to burn, then instantly fail when Validation starts with a "Check Condition" error. Relevant log entries are below: I 14:00:55 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 14:00:55 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 14:00:55 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,036 KB - Available: 1,781,888 KB I 14:00:56 Initialising SPTI... I 14:00:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 14:01:06 Found 1 DVD±RW! I 14:03:00 Operation Started! I 14:03:00 Building Image Tree... I 14:03:00 Checking Directory Depth... I 14:03:00 Calculating Totals... I 14:03:00 Preparing Image... I 14:03:00 Checking Path Length... I 14:03:00 Image Size: 3,973,120,000 bytes I 14:03:00 Image Sectors: 1,940,000 I 14:03:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 14:03:45 Operation Started! I 14:03:45 Building Image Tree... I 14:03:45 Checking Directory Depth... I 14:03:45 Calculating Totals... I 14:03:45 Preparing Image... I 14:03:45 Checking Path Length... I 14:03:45 Image Size: 3,973,120,000 bytes I 14:03:45 Image Sectors: 1,940,000 I 14:03:50 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:05 I 14:03:50 Operation Started! I 14:03:50 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 14:03:50 Source File Sectors: 1,940,000 (MODE1/2048) I 14:03:50 Source File Size: 3,973,120,000 bytes I 14:03:50 Source File Volume Identifier: ハンターＸハンター44-62 I 14:03:50 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 14:03:50 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 14:03:50 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 14:03:50 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5530A AX33 (D:) (ATA) I 14:03:50 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TTH02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 14:03:50 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 14:03:50 Write Mode: DVD I 14:03:50 Write Type: DAO I 14:03:50 Write Speed: 2x I 14:03:50 Link Size: Auto I 14:03:50 Test Mode: No I 14:03:51 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 14:03:53 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 14:03:56 Writing LeadIn... I 14:04:50 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 1939999) I 14:30:20 Synchronising Cache... I 14:31:36 Image MD5: a8352786c2c0ad5744838387fbf69311 I 14:31:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:45 I 14:31:36 Average Write Rate: 2,537 KB/s (1.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2,745 KB/s (2.0x) I 14:31:36 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 14:31:41 Waiting for device to become ready... I 14:32:11 Device Ready! I 14:32:11 Operation Started! I 14:32:11 Source Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5530A AX33 (D:) (ATA) I 14:32:11 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TTH02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 14:32:11 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 14:32:11 Image File Sectors: 1,940,000 (MODE1/2048) I 14:32:11 Image File Size: 3,973,120,000 bytes I 14:32:11 Image File Volume Identifier: ハンターＸハンター44-62 I 14:32:11 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 14:32:11 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 14:32:11 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 14:32:11 Read Speed: MAX I 14:32:11 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 1939999) E 14:36:13 Failed to Read Sector 4705 - No Seek Complete E 14:36:13 Sector 4705 maps to File: Hunter x Hunter - 44 .avi E 14:36:13 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 14:36:15 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:02 I 14:36:15 Average Verify Rate: 38 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1,128 KB/s (0.8x) What might be the problem? So far, six discs have coastered. I've been hearing good things about Taiyo Yuden discs, but the prices seem kind of crazy. Thanks for any assistance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 'Check Condition' is a generic term, it's something for me rather than you The actual error is this one: E 14:36:13 Failed to Read Sector 4705 - No Seek Complete So the drive has produced a disc it can't actually read back - i.e. a low quality burn. You could try speeding up the burn a bit, it might actually be better. Failing that, look for firmware updates and then try getting some better media (you get what you pay for!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duminas Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) So 4x might work better? Thanks, I'll give that a shot next time! It's kinda funny--immediately after I posted here, I tried again, and the burn completed OK. Bizarre. More bizarre, though, is that in searching I found "Datawrite Titanium" DVDR media (here) using the same manufacturer ID. Is this just TDK and them being careless in branding, or did something else happen? It's been quite sporadic with these discs. Case in point, the next burn. Different error, this time. Same cause? I 16:30:35 Operation Started! I 16:30:35 Building Image Tree... I 16:30:35 Checking Directory Depth... I 16:30:35 Calculating Totals... I 16:30:35 Preparing Image... I 16:30:35 Checking Path Length... I 16:30:35 Image Size: 4,546,166,784 bytes I 16:30:35 Image Sectors: 2,219,808 I 16:30:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:01 I 16:30:36 Operation Started! I 16:30:36 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 16:30:36 Source File Sectors: 2,219,808 (MODE1/2048) I 16:30:36 Source File Size: 4,546,166,784 bytes I 16:30:36 Source File Volume Identifier: Savers1-24 I 16:30:36 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 16:30:36 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 16:30:36 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 16:30:36 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5530A AX33 (D:) (ATA) I 16:30:36 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TTH02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 16:30:36 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 16:30:36 Write Mode: DVD I 16:30:36 Write Type: DAO I 16:30:36 Write Speed: 6x I 16:30:36 Link Size: Auto I 16:30:36 Test Mode: No I 16:30:36 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 16:30:37 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 16:30:41 Writing LeadIn... I 16:31:39 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2219807) I 16:45:45 Synchronising Cache... I 16:46:27 Image MD5: 5d8d1385642550412d8891fa987de1b1 I 16:46:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:50 I 16:46:27 Average Write Rate: 5,247 KB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,349 KB/s (6.0x) I 16:46:27 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 16:46:32 Waiting for device to become ready... I 16:47:06 Device Ready! I 16:47:06 Operation Started! I 16:47:06 Source Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5530A AX33 (D:) (ATA) I 16:47:06 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TTH02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 16:47:06 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 16:47:06 Image File Sectors: 2,219,808 (MODE1/2048) I 16:47:06 Image File Size: 4,546,166,784 bytes I 16:47:06 Image File Volume Identifier: Savers1-24 I 16:47:06 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 16:47:06 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 16:47:06 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 16:47:06 Read Speed: MAX I 16:47:06 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2219807) E 16:47:20 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Logical Block Address out of Range E 16:47:20 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 16:47:20 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:14 I 16:47:20 Average Verify Rate: N/A - Maximum Verify Rate: N/A Posted the whole thing since a couple paramters (well, just the write speed) changed. Though it is odd that it didn't start going 6x until about halfway through the burn. As to firmware, this drive doesn't seem to have any updates, though I may be looking in the wrong place. Edited October 30, 2007 by Duminas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 around here we recommend Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden discs as being the most consistent all other media is hit and miss, a change to one or the other should take care of the problem as far as not getting to 6x write speed all burners start at a slower speed and gradually get faster .Think of a DVD as a set of circles ,its written from the inner hub out to the edge, small amount of info at the inner hub slower speed at the outer edge there is a great deal more info and the burner increases speed to the max you either choose or the rated speed of the media .The firmware of the drive has a lot to do with what speeds are available to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duminas Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Just like a hard disk, eh? Thanks for the explanation. And sadly, Verbatim discs have the same kind of error. Specifically, the manufacturer ID on the ones I got is [MCC 03RG20]--they just give me an "LBA out of range" error similar to what I posted above. I 23:03:35 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 1480527) E 23:11:35 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Logical Block Address out of Range Screenshot: Perhaps the drive is going? Seems odd to do so after ~8 months, but... Edited October 30, 2007 by Duminas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Get some TYG02 Taiyo Yuden discs. If they don't work either (burning at 8x), get yourself a new drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duminas Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 I'll look into getting some soon, then. Thanks for your help with this so far, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 The disc's you have burnt that failed at verify stage can you try and verify them on another drive. Just did a quick search on your drive and there is not much hope for it tbh, even liggy cannot dump the firmware. There are also quite a few reports that the drive has issues reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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