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I just got some new Taiyo Yuden 16x DVD-Rs, and I can't get them to work at all. I am very frustrated after messing with this for a whole day now. I've gone though a 50 pack of Verbatim 16x, and previously another 50 pack a Taiyo Yudens, without any serious problems before. I think the old TY discs might have been 8x, and I burned those with Nero. At some point during the Verbatims I switched to Imageburn. Anyway, I've never had a problem like this before. I really don't want to go back to Nero, but I can't get any of these new discs to burn. They all fail exactly the same way in the LeadIn. Doesn't matter if I try it at a slower speed. I've upgraded my BIOS. I've tried using different IO methods. I'm not sure if it's even writing anything as the discs still appear to be blank after I try it(thank God). I tried one of my girlfriend's Verbatim Lightscribe 16x discs this morning with no issues at all. Also, test mode goes all the way through without a hitch. It doesn't fail until I turn test mode off. I'm not sure what else I can try. I usually get this stuff on my own, but I need to ask for help here. Here's the log:

 

 

I 09:51:05 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!

I 09:51:05 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 09:51:05 Total Physical Memory: 916,980 KB - Available: 588,808 KB

I 09:51:05 Initialising SPTI...

I 09:51:05 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 09:51:05 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!

W 09:51:14 I/O Interface has been changed!

I 09:51:14 Shutting down SPTI...

I 09:51:14 Initialising ElbyCDIO...

I 09:51:14 ELBYCDIO.DLL - Elaborate Bytes CDRTools - ElbyCDIO DLL - Version 6.0.6.5

I 09:51:14 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 09:51:14 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!

I 09:52:16 Operation Started!

I 09:52:16 Building Image Tree...

I 09:52:20 Checking Directory Depth...

I 09:52:20 Calculating Totals...

I 09:52:20 Preparing Image...

I 09:52:20 Checking Path Length...

I 09:52:20 Image Size: 4,376,788,992 bytes

I 09:52:20 Image Sectors: 2,137,104

I 09:52:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:05

I 09:52:22 Operation Started!

I 09:52:22 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 09:52:22 Source File Sectors: 2,137,104 (MODE1/2048)

I 09:52:22 Source File Size: 4,376,788,992 bytes

I 09:52:22 Source File Volume Identifier: movies

I 09:52:22 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 09:52:22 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 09:52:22 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 09:52:22 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (F:) (ATA)

I 09:52:22 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)

I 09:52:22 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 09:52:22 Write Mode: DVD

I 09:52:22 Write Type: DAO

I 09:52:22 Write Speed: MAX

I 09:52:22 Link Size: Auto

I 09:52:22 Test Mode: No

I 09:52:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 09:52:22 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)

I 09:52:22 Writing LeadIn...

W 09:53:00 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

W 09:53:00 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:00 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 09:53:00 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:02 Retrying (21)...

W 09:53:02 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:03 Retrying (22)...

W 09:53:03 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:03 Retrying (23)...

W 09:53:03 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:03 Retrying (24)...

W 09:53:03 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:04 Retrying (25)...

W 09:53:04 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:04 Retrying (26)...

W 09:53:04 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:04 Retrying (27)...

W 09:53:04 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:04 Retrying (28)...

W 09:53:04 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:04 Retrying (29)...

W 09:53:04 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:05 Retrying (30)...

W 09:53:05 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 09:53:05 Retrying (31)...

W 09:53:05 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 09:57:39 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

I 09:57:39 Synchronising Cache...

E 09:57:40 Failed to Write Image!

E 09:57:40 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:05:18

I 09:57:40 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)

W 10:17:46 I/O Interface has been changed!

I 10:17:46 Shutting down ElbyCDIO...

I 10:17:46 Initialising SPTI...

I 10:17:46 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 10:17:49 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!

I 10:19:20 Operation Started!

I 10:19:20 Source File: H:\temp\The Day That Nintendo Got Their Groove On,And Marios Dancing For The Stars\The Day That Nintendo Got Their Groove On And Marios Dancing For The Stars.iso

I 10:19:20 Source File Sectors: 2,189,056 (MODE1/2048)

I 10:19:20 Source File Size: 4,483,186,688 bytes

I 10:19:20 Source File Volume Identifier: CDROM

I 10:19:20 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

I 10:19:20 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet

I 10:19:20 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (F:) (ATA)

I 10:19:20 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)

I 10:19:20 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 10:19:20 Write Mode: DVD

I 10:19:20 Write Type: DAO

I 10:19:20 Write Speed: MAX

I 10:19:20 Link Size: Auto

I 10:19:20 Test Mode: Yes

I 10:19:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 10:19:21 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)

I 10:19:21 Writing LeadIn...

I 10:19:34 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2189055)

I 10:24:24 Synchronising Cache...

I 10:24:25 Cycling Tray after Test Write...

I 10:24:36 Image MD5: 747889c228c46abe46e0e402594af006

I 10:24:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:15

I 10:24:36 Average Write Rate: 15,096 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21,740 KB/s (15.7x)

I 10:34:30 Operation Started!

I 10:34:30 Source File: H:\temp\The Day That Nintendo Got Their Groove On,And Marios Dancing For The Stars\The Day That Nintendo Got Their Groove On And Marios Dancing For The Stars.iso

I 10:34:30 Source File Sectors: 2,189,056 (MODE1/2048)

I 10:34:30 Source File Size: 4,483,186,688 bytes

I 10:34:30 Source File Volume Identifier: CDROM

I 10:34:30 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR © 1993 E.YOUNGDALE © 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

I 10:34:30 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet

I 10:34:30 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (F:) (ATA)

I 10:34:30 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)

I 10:34:30 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 10:34:30 Write Mode: DVD

I 10:34:30 Write Type: DAO

I 10:34:30 Write Speed: MAX

I 10:34:30 Link Size: Auto

I 10:34:30 Test Mode: No

I 10:34:30 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 10:34:38 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)

I 10:34:38 Writing LeadIn...

W 10:35:17 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

W 10:35:17 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 10:35:17 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 10:35:17 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 10:35:24 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

I 10:35:24 Synchronising Cache...

E 10:35:25 Failed to Write Image!

E 10:35:25 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:54

I 10:35:25 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)

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Test mode doesn't actually burn anything - hence it's not a test of if the drive can write to the disc or not.

 

What I'd probably do here is try changing the 'Write Type' to Incremental as some picky drives that aren't quite 100% will sometimes respond to one write type better than the other.

 

You could also try cleaning the drive if you've not already done so.

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You get the same error with SPTI instead of Elby I/O [edit] I see you changed back to SPTI.

 

What about WNASPI32 or should i check your log again :D

 

 

I tried Adaptec aspi, didn't try Nero aspi. I also didn't even realize that I had the Elby error on there till I pasted it, but I figured why not, you can see it's the same error then. It was the last thing I tried before I pretty much gave up this morning and decided to ask for help. Using an air can didn't help. I'm still looking the a cleaning disc. I know there's one around here somewhere, but I'm off to work now.

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I havent ehard of Meritline doing any fakes, so I'd say there genuine taiyos .

a slim ( and i mean VERY slim) chance is that you found a couple of duff discs in the spindle, but Taiyo failure rate is very low.Can you try one from the other end of the spindle/pack

We usually tell people to burn the TYG03 media at 8x , even though they are rated 16x , 8x seems to be more reliable.

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Tried a few from the top, and couple from about the middle. It's only a 25 pack. Here's one from the bottom:

 

I 06:54:17 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!

I 06:54:17 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 06:54:17 Total Physical Memory: 916,980 KB - Available: 487,648 KB

I 06:54:17 Initialising SPTI...

I 06:54:17 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 06:54:18 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!

I 06:54:42 Operation Started!

I 06:54:42 Building Image Tree...

I 06:54:42 Checking Directory Depth...

I 06:54:42 Calculating Totals...

I 06:54:42 Preparing Image...

I 06:54:42 Checking Path Length...

I 06:54:42 Image Size: 4,376,788,992 bytes

I 06:54:42 Image Sectors: 2,137,104

I 06:54:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 06:54:54 Operation Started!

I 06:54:54 Building Image Tree...

I 06:54:59 Checking Directory Depth...

I 06:54:59 Calculating Totals...

I 06:54:59 Preparing Image...

I 06:54:59 Checking Path Length...

I 06:54:59 Image Size: 4,376,788,992 bytes

I 06:54:59 Image Sectors: 2,137,104

I 06:55:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:06

I 06:55:01 Operation Started!

I 06:55:01 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 06:55:01 Source File Sectors: 2,137,104 (MODE1/2048)

I 06:55:01 Source File Size: 4,376,788,992 bytes

I 06:55:01 Source File Volume Identifier: movies

I 06:55:01 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

I 06:55:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 06:55:01 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 06:55:01 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.29 (F:) (ATA)

I 06:55:01 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)

I 06:55:01 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888

I 06:55:01 Write Mode: DVD

I 06:55:01 Write Type: DAO

I 06:55:01 Write Speed: 8x

I 06:55:01 Link Size: Auto

I 06:55:01 Test Mode: No

I 06:55:01 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 06:55:01 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)

I 06:55:02 Writing LeadIn...

W 06:55:43 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

W 06:55:43 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

W 06:55:43 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 06:55:43 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format

E 06:55:51 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Write Error

I 06:55:51 Synchronising Cache...

E 06:55:52 Failed to Write Image!

E 06:55:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:50

I 06:55:52 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)

 

 

The way it produces exactly the same error every time gives me hope that it is only a software conflict, but I can't figure out what it is.

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The errors come from the drive so the software shouldn't even come into it.

 

The drive is simply reporting that it's having trouble writing to the media (hence the 'Write Error' error code) so really it should be some issue between the drive, firmware and the media itself.

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===============================================

Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0

===============================================

 

Upper Device Filter: redbook

Upper Class Filter: [None Found]

Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device

Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay

Lower Device Filter: imapi

 

Filter Name: redbook

File Name: D:\WINDOWS.0\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys

File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver

Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180

Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Filter Name: ElbyDelay

File Name: D:\WINDOWS.0\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys

File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]

File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver

Product Name: CDRTools

Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]

Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG

Copyright: Copyright © 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

 

Filter Name: imapi

File Name: D:\WINDOWS.0\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys

File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver

Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180

Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Anything there?

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Well, God help me. I threw on an old version of Nero, and got the exact same error.

 

8:04:02 AM #25 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 303

Illegal disc

F: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L

 

8:04:02 AM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3750

EndDAO: Last written address was 767 (2FFh)

 

8:04:02 AM #27 CDR -1135 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 162

Write error

F: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L

 

If that looks slightly confusing, I've decided to try some "alternative" firmwares, with no better results btw.

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