dbminter Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I was thinking about the current war on terror efforts that the US is engaged in. Much like its war on drugs, I believe that the US is wasting its time fighting the way it has since WW II. Ever since we dropped the only nuclear weapons to date employed against others, we have believed that all we need to do is fight any enemy into defeat. The might makes right theory does not work against ideologies, as Vietnam showed. So, I got thinking about how best to employ our greatest weapon against Islamic radical terrorism, money, into an effective fighting strategy. While the US will never do it please allow me to make my point for one moment. The way I see it, there are two easy ways to stop the terror threat as we see it. First, we smuggle in scores of hookers into havens of breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists. Think about it. The youth in Islamic areas are generally indoctrinated into being suicide bombers because they are easy to influence. Take a horny teenage male and it's easy to trick him into blowing himself up if he thinks afterwards he'll have 72 virgins blowing him off in the afterlife. It's easy to go for the brass ring that doesn't exist if you've got a rusty ring falling off your finger in real life. BUT, if every possible candidate for a terrorist bomber was busy getting laid, why would they want to give up steady for the mere chance that there is more after you die? If you've got nothing, you're willing to gamble. If you have something you could lose, you won't gamble. Plus, if these guys spend all their time getting tail, who will be left to even approach to become a bomber? Everyone will be too busy in their bedrooms! Only a handful of people will accept, and, eventually, they'll have all been blown up. There won't be anyone left to recruit. The other we can do has the same problem as the above in that the US would never sanction it. Employ the war on drugs AGAINST terrorism. Say, when you seize a shipment of cocaine, smuggle it into breeding grounds of recruited terrorists and GIVE it away to them. If everyone's stoned, no one can effectively pull off a suicide bombing! You can barely stand up let alone remember to stand up, run, and detonate an explosive pack. There you have it. Two easy ways to end the current war on terrorism. But, the war will go on because the US government would never think of laying in bed with vices... unless those vices can be taxed. Plus, a sad fact may very well be this: WITHOUT an enemy to fight, in this case terrorism, after terrorism replaced Communists, then you lose the support of the people. IMO, there is a specific cause and effect to the fall of Communism in 1989 and the shifting of political power in the US resulting. Sadly, then, those in power in the US may not actually want to really admit it, but, it may just be that a defeat of the current terrorist threat is not entirely desired by them. Because their defeat puts them out of a job. Oh, well. I've tried. I've said how to stop it, so, naturally, it won't be stopped because it works too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 The other we can do has the same problem as the above in that the US would never sanction it. Employ the war on drugs AGAINST terrorism. Say, when you seize a shipment of cocaine, smuggle it into breeding grounds of recruited terrorists and GIVE it away to them. If everyone's stoned, no one can effectively pull off a suicide bombing! You can barely stand up let alone remember to stand up, run, and detonate an explosive pack. DB you might suggest the sedetive drugs or some weed the I'll get to it tomorrow drug .Coke makes for some crazed people, a suicide bomber on blow no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Actually, the way I see it, you want crazed people as suicide bombers. Why? A crazed person isn't exactly going to be willing to commit to being a suicide bomber because you have to first "reason" to those weaknesses that make them vulnerable. A crazed person won't fall victim to brainwashing, which is why you generally shoot crazed people rather than negotiating with them. Plus, recruiters wouldn't arm a crazed person with a bomb because he's most likely to set it off right then and there. Lastly, a crazed person cannot keep a secret. People on depressants would be more likely to be talked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcrule1972 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I can see a role for you in these policies db Roadtesting the hookers to check they are up to standard and sampling the coke..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Well, you're half right. Wouldn't use coke. Coke degrades your sexual performance over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcrule1972 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I will take your word for it mate........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadjian Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Bloody hell, and I thought all they wanted to do was to ban guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I will take your word for it mate........ You don't need to take my word for it. Ask anyone who tried to hire John Holmes towards the end of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcrule1972 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 John Holmes ??? Hang on I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcrule1972 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 http://www.ishipress.com/holmes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think he died in prison sent there for murder or his involvement in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfcrule1972 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 The piece says he died of AIDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Near as I know, Holmes was investigated for a possible murder involvement. He apparently set up someone he knew to be in a specific place where he was to be robbed. The robbers apparently went further and killed him, paying off Holmes later in part of the money from the robbery as well as cocaine taken from the victim. I don't know if Holmes ever knew of the murder at the time. He died of AIDS complications. The worst part was he was HIV positive, knew it, and never told anyone, yet still kept on working. So, who knows how many lives he actually ruined up outside of his own? It seems that before he got addicted to cocaine, he was a nice enough guy. But, his habit eventually broke up his relationships, his work, and his life, taking to even stealing luggage from airport terminals to sell for coke money. The saddest part then is he died a creep, and will probably always be remembered for that, despite having been a somewhat ordinary (For a porn star known for one thing only. ) guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevdriver Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 (edited) Shirt Says : God Bless America in Arabic You gotta love Robin Williams...... Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. Robin Williams's plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!) "I see a lot of people yelling for peace, but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan. 1) "The US will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys;' we will never 'interfere' again. 2) "We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence. 3) "All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days, the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them. 4) "All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers. 5) "No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D, and it's back home, baby. 6) "The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy-wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy, but will require temporary drilling for oil in the Alaska wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while 7) "Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.) 8) "If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah, or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement, or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything. 9) "Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair-weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. 10) "All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE." Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?" "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying, 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat, and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' " Edited February 3, 2006 by kevdriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 In many ways, he is right. The one major problem I see is the US cannot pull out of what it's already gotten into. Because, and this will sound counterintuitive at first, but, wait for the conclusion a perfect example is what happened in WW II. Believe it or not, Japan's attack on the US was the best thing that could have happened for us during that time. It got Americans pissed off to seek Japanese blood in retribution. Had America kept its isolationism, then, there's no real way to tell how Europe might have gone. Europe at that time was pretty much Great Britain holding off against Nazi expansion, but, in many key areas was failing simply because it did not have the necessary aid. Again, this is just speculation, but, if Great Britain had been taken (And let us not forget there was one small Nazi occupied territory of GB at that time. Some Isle, I forget what it was.) Europe would surely have become entirely Nazi. That would be a pretty big chunk to have to take on, as opposed to just Germany and Italy and its held territories. Japan is not significant there because it's too far away and can only supply munitions, really. The bottom line is what you start, you have to finish. Granted, that isn't a Manifest Destiny carte blanche to run rough shod all over the world because someone disagrees with you. The interesting thing in the final analysis is any country cannot afford to be isolationist, nor can it afford to do everything on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Had another marvelous revelation on how to stop Islamo-terrorists! Okay, follow the reasoning here. The suicide bombers are basically willing to do what they're told because they have been duped into believing that if they do what someone else wants them to do for them, God will give them 72 perpetual virgins. Well, why no proactively take on the situation? I believe there's something like $25 million reward for Osama Bin Laden. Why not use that $25 million and make sure every person already HAS 72 virgins? While they won't re-pertetuate as in the silly dream they're fed, still, you'll have a harem of 72 women. IN your life time! No need to die for something you MIGHT get when you have the guaranteed sure thing of 72 's Whaddya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 AM' post='9169']In many ways, he is right. The one major problem I see is the US cannot pull out of what it's already gotten into. It?s called Pride. They?re too damned proud to admit to the world that many of their decisions have been disasterous. Pulling troops out of these areas would signify a failure in policy. The USA (for some reason or another) seems to think that placing troops in various parts of the world will solve the multitude of problems that different countries face. I agree with alot of what Robin Williams is quoted as saying. Europe at that time was pretty much Great Britain holding off against Nazi expansion, but, in many key areas was failing simply because it did not have the necessary aid. Again, this is just speculation, but, if Great Britain had been taken (And let us not forget there was one small Nazi occupied territory of GB at that time. Some Isle, I forget what it was.) Europe would surely have become entirely Nazi. I think there is little doubt Great Britain would have been overrun if not for Hitlers? woeful decision to attack Russia before GB had been pacified. The Japanese bombing the crap out of Pearl Harbour (after having beaten China to a pulp just a few years earlier), didn?t help the Germans much either. 2 decisions made by just 2 people changed the way the war was fought. Imagine how much different things might have been if Germany and Japan had launched a joint attack on the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Junkie Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I say bomb that whole area. What Bush should have done right after 9/11 was to drop a few well placed bombs and totally obliterate Afghanistan. Right after that we should have announced that the other Arab countries would have 24 hours to remove the terrorists from within their boarders, and let those other countries know that if we felt that any terrorists remained within any of their boarders, that country would suffer the same fate as Afghanistan. I CANNOT FEEL SORRY FOR ANY OF THOSE BASTARDS OVER THERE. IF THAT IS NOT THE PC WAY TO BE THEN SO-BE-IT! This war that we are in is not being fought in the correct manner! GO IN, GET THE JOB DONE USING ANY MEANS NEEDED, AND THEN GET THE HELL OUT AND LET IT BURN!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadjian Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 @MJ, watch your blood pressure man, I think you're about to burst a vessel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Junkie Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 @MJ, watch your blood pressure man, I think you're about to burst a vessel. Thanks. I just need to "Rant" once in a while. This whole thing in Iraq really pisses me off. Especially since I have a son who is of draft age if they decide to start the draft again. This administration cares not one iota about our young men dying for naught. All it cares about is getting their greedy hands on more money through the blood of our young men. In fact the head BASTARD, King george, doen't even care about any of the people in this country, other than his f'n cronies. The only reason he wants that damn Middle-East company to run those ports is because he is making millions of dollars from it. KING GEORGE....KISS MY ASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's sad to see to where all the hate leads. And that includes all parties involved in this conflict. And it's frustrating that people just don't think for themselves and believe all the bull that is hyped throughout the media. 9/11 "smells fishy" for a lot of reasons, 3/11 (Madrid) "smells fishy" in many ways and the London attacks "smell" somehow as well. I don't know what happened there exactly, except for the given fact that innocent people died in a bloody act of violence. All the other stuff is propaganda, well, more or less. Call me a liberal left-wing mustard, but I don't believe the hype and I question authority. And I try to dig a little bit deeper, which is not easy these days. There is propaganda and counter-propaganda, there is killing here and killing there, they spin a little bit here, they turn around there, they lie to us, they lie to them, they take our freedom, they take their freedom and this is taking place where oil peak is near - when it isn't reached already - and when China is taking over the markets with a massive hunger for energy. Wake up people, this is not just a war on error, it's going to be the 4th world war (if you count the cold war as the third) and it will reach all the countries worldwide. And that happens to stabilize a system that is about to collide. As a non-believer I pray to god that I am wrong, but I am afraid I am not. Best Regards and I wish some peace in mind and heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 We could stop all the hate if we just do as I said and use the money to fight terrorism and buy everyone in the world 72 virgins. Starting with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Junkie Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) We could stop all the hate if we just do as I said and use the money to fight terrorism and buy everyone in the world 72 virgins. Starting with me. NO! IT MUST BE DO AS I SAY! Edited February 28, 2006 by Movie Junkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadjian Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 @MJ, watch your blood pressure man, I think you're about to burst a vessel. Thanks. I just need to "Rant" once in a while. This whole thing in Iraq really pisses me off. Especially since I have a son who is of draft age if they decide to start the draft again. This administration cares not one iota about our young men dying for naught. All it cares about is getting their greedy hands on more money through the blood of our young men. In fact the head BASTARD, King george, doen't even care about any of the people in this country, other than his f'n cronies. The only reason he wants that damn Middle-East company to run those ports is because he is making millions of dollars from it. KING GEORGE....KISS MY ASS! I agree, it sort of reminds me of Vietnam all over again. What a waste of fucking time that was, not to mention lives. Edit: I don't fucking understand why America in general needs to act every time some asshole drops a fart somewhere in the world. Did someone appoint them as world police? I must have missed the appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Junkie Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I agree, it sort of reminds me of Vietnam all over again.What a waste of fucking time that was, not to mention lives. Edit: I don't fucking understand why America in general needs to act every time some asshole drops a fart somewhere in the world. Did someone appoint them as world police? I must have missed the appointment. You are so right. It IS Vietnam all over again except that this time the enemy has the ability to come to America to harm us. The funny thing was that, in the beginning, I felt that we were right to be there. The longer it went on and the more of our troops dying and the more it appeared that the powers that be really weren't trying to win completely changed my opinion. I remember taking my son to Washington, DC a number of years ago and starting to read the names, of those killed, on the Vietnam Monument. Even though I didn't personally know anyone who died in that war my eyes welled up with tears...and now the damn thing is happening again. DAMN YOU BUSH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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