ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 at what speed was that burned? 4x. The image I wrote was from a USB HDD to this USB burner... Sadly the burner does not have 6x mode (at least DVDBurn did not want to write so when I selected) just 4x and 8x. The USB EHCI controller does not seem to be able to read and write 2 channels simultaneously at ~11.000 KB/s... Below are the 8x write details. AE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinningwheel Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 from a USB HDD to this USB burner... That's a lot to expect from USB to USB. I use a USB HDD to rip to and then to burn from to my tower and I have verify problems most of the time. Can you mount one of the devices in your machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 from a USB HDD to this USB burner... That's a lot to expect from USB to USB. I use a USB HDD to rip to and then to burn from to my tower and I have verify problems most of the time. Can you mount one of the devices in your machine? Sadly no. I bought an external burner, because my current drive is mounted vertically, and I suppose it's not for the best... The USB HDD is a laptop IDE drive and cannot be mounted either my PC or my laptop. Anyway since I have this external drive, I'll try to burn some discs with my laptop as well (it could even be better with it than with the PC, since the PC is a 5 year old P4 2GHz DELL Optiplex and the laptop is a DualCore 2GHz Lenovo T60) AE PS. I have killed an another disc with the burner, but the disc should be defect... There was a 'ring' in the written area, and the verify failed. It looked weird, like some old (disc) hardware based copy protection. I think this cube of Verba discs is fake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 You should be able to manage 8x with 2 usb2 devices (usb2>usb2) and get decent burn speeds / Cpu Useage / scans etc. Or it might be time to check out some new enclosures or a different EHCI controller or both. USB 2 Hard drive to USB 2 Liteon 20A3P [8x] I 20:58:35 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 20:58:35 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:58:35 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,956,840 KB W 20:58:35 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:58:35 Initialising SPTI... I 20:58:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:58:48 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 20:59:24 Operation Started! I 20:59:24 Source File: L:\Backups\SOME.ISO I 20:59:24 Source File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 20:59:24 Source File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 20:59:24 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 20:59:24 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 20:59:24 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 20:59:24 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:59:24 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 20:59:24 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 20:59:24 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 20:59:24 Write Mode: DVD I 20:59:24 Write Type: DAO I 20:59:24 Write Speed: 8x I 20:59:24 Link Size: Auto I 20:59:24 Test Mode: No I 20:59:24 OPC: Yes I 20:59:24 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:59:25 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 20:59:39 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 20:59:40 Writing LeadIn... I 21:00:01 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:00:01 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:07:31 Synchronising Cache... I 21:07:48 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:07:48 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_20-59_CMC_MAG._AM3_8x.ibg I 21:07:48 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:07:48 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:23 I 21:07:48 Average Write Rate: 10,159 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,263 KB/s (8.1x) I 21:07:48 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:07:54 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:08:09 Device Ready! I 21:08:10 Operation Started! I 21:08:10 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:08:10 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:08:10 Image File: L:\Backups\SOME.ISO I 21:08:10 Image File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 21:08:10 Image File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 21:08:10 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:08:10 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:08:10 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:08:10 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:08:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:08:10 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:08:10 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285847) I 21:13:15 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:13:15 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_20-59_CMC_MAG._AM3_8x.ibg I 21:13:15 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:13:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:04 I 21:13:15 Average Verify Rate: 15,038 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 20,900 KB/s (15.1x) USB 2 8GB Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [8x] I 21:16:55 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 21:16:55 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:16:55 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,952,396 KB W 21:16:55 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 21:16:55 Initialising SPTI... I 21:16:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:16:58 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 21:17:21 Operation Started! I 21:17:21 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:17:21 Source File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 21:17:21 Source File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 21:17:21 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:17:21 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:17:22 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:17:22 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:17:22 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:17:22 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 21:17:22 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 21:17:22 Write Mode: DVD I 21:17:22 Write Type: DAO I 21:17:22 Write Speed: 8x I 21:17:22 Link Size: Auto I 21:17:22 Test Mode: No I 21:17:22 OPC: Yes I 21:17:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:17:22 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 21:17:34 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:17:35 Writing LeadIn... I 21:17:56 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:17:56 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:25:28 Synchronising Cache... I 21:25:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:25:44 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-17_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 21:25:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:25:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:22 I 21:25:44 Average Write Rate: 10,136 KB/s (7.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,263 KB/s (8.1x) I 21:25:44 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:25:51 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:26:05 Device Ready! I 21:26:07 Operation Started! I 21:26:07 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:26:07 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 21:26:07 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:26:07 Image File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 21:26:07 Image File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 21:26:07 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:26:07 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:26:07 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:26:07 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:26:07 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:26:07 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:26:07 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:31:10 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:31:10 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-17_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 21:31:10 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:31:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:03 I 21:31:10 Average Verify Rate: 15,088 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,422 KB/s (16.2x) USB2 8Gb Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [12x] I 21:41:03 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 21:41:03 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:41:03 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,956,004 KB W 21:41:03 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 21:41:03 Initialising SPTI... I 21:41:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:41:16 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 21:41:37 Operation Started! I 21:41:37 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:41:37 Source File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 21:41:37 Source File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 21:41:37 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:41:37 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:41:37 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:41:37 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:41:37 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:41:37 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:41:37 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 21:41:37 Write Mode: DVD I 21:41:37 Write Type: DAO I 21:41:37 Write Speed: 12x I 21:41:37 Link Size: Auto I 21:41:37 Test Mode: No I 21:41:37 OPC: Yes I 21:41:37 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:41:37 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 21:41:51 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:41:53 Writing LeadIn... I 21:42:13 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:42:13 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:48:50 Synchronising Cache... I 21:48:59 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:48:59 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-41_CMC_MAG._AM3_12x.ibg I 21:48:59 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:48:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:22 I 21:48:59 Average Write Rate: 11,515 KB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 16,646 KB/s (12.0x) I 21:48:59 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:49:06 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:49:22 Device Ready! I 21:49:23 Operation Started! I 21:49:23 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 21:49:23 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:49:23 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 21:49:23 Image File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 21:49:23 Image File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 21:49:23 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 21:49:23 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 21:49:23 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 21:49:23 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:49:23 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:49:23 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:49:23 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 21:54:27 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:54:27 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_21-41_CMC_MAG._AM3_12x.ibg I 21:54:27 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:54:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:03 I 21:54:27 Average Verify Rate: 15,087 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,317 KB/s (16.1x) Then I realised I had not disabled Smartburn on the Liteon 20A3P USB2 8Gb Flash Pen to USB2 Liteon 20A3P [16x] I 22:06:17 ImgBurn Version Beta started! I 22:06:17 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 22:06:17 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,954,240 KB W 22:06:17 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 22:06:17 Initialising SPTI... I 22:06:17 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:06:18 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 22:06:45 Operation Started! I 22:06:45 Source File: M:\SOME.ISO I 22:06:45 Source File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 22:06:45 Source File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 22:06:45 Source File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 22:06:45 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 22:06:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 22:06:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 22:06:45 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 22:06:45 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 22:06:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 22:06:45 Write Mode: DVD I 22:06:45 Write Type: DAO I 22:06:45 Write Speed: 16x I 22:06:45 Link Size: Auto I 22:06:45 Test Mode: No I 22:06:45 OPC: Yes I 22:06:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:06:45 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: No I 22:06:58 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 22:07:00 Writing LeadIn... I 22:07:18 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:07:18 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:12:18 Synchronising Cache... I 22:12:30 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:12:30 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_22-06_CMC_MAG._AM3_16x.ibg I 22:12:30 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:12:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:45 I 22:12:30 Average Write Rate: 15,289 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,029 KB/s (15.9x) I 22:12:30 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:12:37 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:12:52 Device Ready! I 22:12:54 Operation Started! I 22:12:54 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI DVD A DH20A3P XV5J (O:) (USB) I 22:12:54 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 22:12:54 Image File: M:\SOME.ISO I 22:12:54 Image File Sectors: 2,285,831 (MODE1/2048) I 22:12:54 Image File Size: 4,681,381,888 bytes I 22:12:54 Image File Volume Identifier: ASCII I 22:12:54 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ME I 22:12:54 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Drunk I 22:12:54 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 22:12:54 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 22:12:54 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:12:54 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285830) I 22:17:56 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:17:56 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_DVD_A_DH20A3P_XV5J_05-JANUARY-2008_22-06_CMC_MAG._AM3_16x.ibg I 22:17:56 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:17:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:02 I 22:17:56 Average Verify Rate: 15,188 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,475 KB/s (16.2x) I noticed you replied since I ran all this, with info about laptop ide in Usb Enclosure so more than likely 5400Rpm which would affect speed. [edit] something unusual in graph as the disc write speed got to 16, or rather 15.9x) I saw That yet graph DIP says 12.30x end . Suppose just at end usb bandwidth dropped at that split second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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