BD-RE 50GB - 3D AVATAR ISO does not fit on Disc

[evaluator]

Hi All, I was hoping you can help me, am reasonably technical but this has been racking my brain.

 

I have Avatar 3d as part of my 3D TV package and I wanted to back it up so I do not damage the original. I have used the method recommended which is use clone method in DVDfab and make a 1:1 ISO image (latest beta of DVDFAB). However when I copy it to a BD-RE GB it says not enough space for the image. Can some one help or advise.

 

I have formatted the disk when I first got it but am not sure if I did it correctly to make use of maximum space. Can someone advise the specific options and steps in Imgburn to follow to make sure it gives me the maximum capacity (don't mind reformatting again although it takes time). Any help or advise is appreciated,

 

Thanks,

E.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Show me the log of you attempting to burn the image file please.

 

Please also insert the BD-RE, go into Write mode and copy + paste all the disc info from the box on the right.

[evaluator]

Wow that's fast, thanks lightning, will check this evening and post, thanks again...

[evaluator]

Hi Lightning, please find below the details, will be checking online, on and off for another 4.5 hours from time of this thread.

 

PIONEER BD-RW BDR-205 1.10 (ATAPI)

Current Profile: BD-RE

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

State of Last Session: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 23,652,352

Size: 48,440,016,896 bytes

Time: 5256:06:52 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 2x

 

TOC Information:

Session 1... (LBA: 0)

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 23652351)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 23652352)

 

Disc Definition Structure:

ISA0 Size: 4,096 clustors - Full: No

OSA0 Size: 5,120 clustors - Full: No

ISA1 Size: 10,240 clustors - Full: No

OSA1 Size: 5,120 clustors - Full: No

Certified: No

Scanned: No

 

BD Disc Information (L0):

Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000

Disc Type: BD-RE

Disc Size: 120mm

Disc Class: 0

Disc Version: 2

Number of Layers: 2

Layer Type: Rewritable

DVD Layer Present: No

CD Layer Present: No

Channel Bit Length: 74.5nm (25GB Per Layer)

BCA Present: Yes

Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified

First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072

Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494

 

BD Disc Information (L1):

Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000

Disc Type: BD-RE

Disc Size: 120mm

Disc Class: 0

Disc Version: 2

Number of Layers: 2

Layer Type: Rewritable

DVD Layer Present: No

CD Layer Present: No

Channel Bit Length: 74.5nm (25GB Per Layer)

BCA Present: Yes

Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified

First PAA of Data Zone: 2,535,808

Last PAA of Data Zone: 4,063,230

 

Layer Information:

Layer 0 Sectors: 12,219,392 (51.66%)

Layer 1 Sectors: 11,432,960 (48.34%)

 

Format Capacities:

DT: 0x02 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

FT: 0x00 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

FT: 0x30 - NB: 23652352 (0x0168E800) - TDP: 24576

FT: 0x30 - NB: 23259136 (0x0162E800) - TDP: 36864

FT: 0x30 - NB: 24307712 (0x0172E800) - TDP: 4096

FT: 0x31 - NB: 24438784 (0x0174E800) - TDP: 2048

 

Performance (Write Speed):

Descriptor 1...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 23652351 (0x0168E7FF)

-> RS: 8,990 KB/s (2x) - WS: 8,990 KB/s (2x)

 

BD-RE BRAND IS TDK 50GB x2

When I load the AVATAR ISO image into imgburn it says:

 

Sectors 24,438,784 (MODE1/2048)

Size 50,050,629,632 bytes

Time 5430:52:34

 

If there is a better way to get info/size about the ISO image i created let me know, can try to update the thread, Or if you think there is a better way to capture the image using DVD fab (I want to maintain working 3D and DTS Master Audio) as to fit the disk.

 

Many thanks for your help, much appreciated...

 

E.

[evaluator]

And here's the log, me trying to start the burn, continuing after warning and stopping after leadin is complete:

 

; //****************************************\\

; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log

; Thursday, 27 January 2011, 19:10:03

; \\****************************************//

;

;

I 19:08:22 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 19:08:22 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600)

I 19:08:22 Total Physical Memory: 6,289,872 KB - Available: 5,075,076 KB

I 19:08:22 Initialising SPTI...

I 19:08:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 19:08:22 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (G:) (Virtual)

I 19:08:22 -> Drive 2 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (H:) (Virtual)

I 19:08:22 -> Drive 3 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-205 1.10 (F:) (ATAPI)

I 19:08:22 Found 2 BD-ROMs and 1 BD-RE!

W 19:09:32 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn!

I 19:09:32 Operation Started!

I 19:09:32 Source File: D:\BLURAY\RED_BIRD_3D_WW\RED_BIRD_3D_WW.iso

I 19:09:32 Source File Sectors: 24,438,784 (MODE1/2048)

I 19:09:32 Source File Size: 50,050,629,632 bytes

I 19:09:32 Source File Volume Identifier: RED_BIRD_3D_WW

I 19:09:32 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3D21BC50RED_BIRD

I 19:09:32 Source File Application Identifier: BD Authoring

I 19:09:32 Source File Implementation Identifier: MEI

I 19:09:32 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 19:09:32 Destination Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-205 1.10 (F:) (ATAPI)

I 19:09:32 Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: TDKBLD-Wfa-000) (Speeds: 2x)

I 19:09:32 Destination Media Sectors: 23,652,352

I 19:09:32 Write Mode: BD

I 19:09:32 Write Type: DAO

I 19:09:32 Write Speed: 2x

I 19:09:32 BD-RE FastWrite: Yes

I 19:09:32 Link Size: Auto

I 19:09:32 Lock Volume: Yes

I 19:09:32 Test Mode: No

I 19:09:32 OPC: No

I 19:09:32 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 19:09:32 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,990 KB/s (2x)

I 19:09:32 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No

I 19:09:33 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 19:09:33 Writing LeadIn...

I 19:09:47 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 24438783)

I 19:09:47 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 24438783)

I 19:09:47 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 12219391)

I 19:09:56 Abort Request Acknowledged

I 19:09:56 Synchronising Cache...

W 19:10:01 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.

E 19:10:01 Failed to Write Image!

I 19:10:01 Exporting Graph Data...

I 19:10:01 Graph Data File: C:\Users\UD7\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_BD-RW_BDR-205_1.10_27-JANUARY-2011_19-09_TDKBLD-Wfa-000_2x.ibg

I 19:10:01 Export Successfully Completed!

E 19:10:01 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:00:28

I 19:10:01 Average Write Rate: 9,256 KB/s (2.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 9,256 KB/s (2.1x)

I 19:10:02 Close Request Acknowledged

I 19:10:02 Closing Down...

I 19:10:03 Shutting down SPTI...

I 19:10:03 ImgBurn closed!

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Update the firmware on your drive.

 

http://www.firmwarehq.com/Pioneer/BDR-205/files.html

 

Then do a full erase/format with ImgBurn. Double check you've got the option 'Prefer Format Without Spare Areas' enabled in the settings. (Write tab)

[evaluator]

Thanks lightning, sounds good, will give it a bash and post back results for the benefit of all...once again thank you for your time....

[evaluator]

Hi Lightning, am absolutly speechless, you were spot on.

 

Just to summarise as per your advise:

 

Updated firmware to 1.11 Pioneer 205BLK

Selected 'Prefer Format Without Spare Areas' enabled in the settings(Write tab),and selected "Maximum prefered" from the pulldownmenu in the same area.

Formatted using Full/Erase

 

Many many thanks kind sir, efficient, professional and a very fast response/resolution. Goes without saying regarding Imgburn, it's pure class...

 

E.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You can/should leave the 'Prefer Format Size' option on 'Preferred'. It doesn't apply unless you're formatting WITH spare areas - in which case it's best to use what the drive manufacturers program the firmware for.

 

No need to format the disc again after reverting it to the default setting, your discs is fine as it is now (after formatting without spare areas).

[evaluator]

Hi Lightning, understood and agreed, will revert back to preferred for future formats. Thanks again...

 

E.