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I am sorry about the missing log, yesterday it seemed to be lost (log dir empty). I forgot that I start ImageBurn by a script with another identity. Today I remembered and found all logs in the folder of that user. As I stated, the write rate is o.k. (I had limited id by settings to 16x): Average Write Rate: 2 323 KB/s (15.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2 428 KB/s (16.2x) wheras the verify rate is poor: Average Verify Rate: 1 008 KB/s (6.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1 332 KB/s (8.9x) THIS IS SHOWN IN THE 1RST LOG FILE. Today I used ImageBurn to make a HD image of the disk I burnt yesterday, then I let ImageBurn make a seperate verify of that disk image against the CD used. The rate is not perfect, but acceptable: Average Read Rate: 2 778 KB/s (18.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5 743 KB/s (38.3x) THIS IS SHOWN IN THE 2ND LOG FILE. It seems the player/burner is capable to read fast enough, and does do so in a SEPERATE verify task. However, the rate is poor if it is done IN ONE GO (burning and verify). As I told in my 1rst post, this happens only with CD, not with DVD. Any idea? Did I perhaps use some wrong setting? BESIDES THAT, IMAGEBURN IS BY FAR THE BEST BURNING PROGRAM I HAVE FOUND. Thank You in advance if you'll have time to read this. ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log ; Dienstag, 10 November 2009, 03:37:52 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 03:23:58 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 03:23:58 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3, v.5857) I 03:23:58 Total Physical Memory: 3 144 108 KB - Available: 2 114 512 KB W 03:23:58 Drive B:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive P:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive S:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive T:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive U:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 03:23:58 Initialising SPTI... I 03:23:58 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 03:23:58 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 03:25:28 Operation Started! I 03:25:28 Building Image Tree... I 03:25:28 Calculating Totals... I 03:25:28 Preparing Image... I 03:25:37 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:25:37 Content Type: Data I 03:25:37 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:25:37 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:25:37 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 03:25:37 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:25:37 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:25:37 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:25:37 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:25:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 03:25:55 Operation Started! I 03:25:55 Building Image Tree... I 03:25:56 Calculating Totals... I 03:25:56 Preparing Image... I 03:26:04 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:26:04 Content Type: Data I 03:26:04 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:26:04 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:26:04 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 03:26:04 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:26:04 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:26:04 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:04 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:26:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 03:26:45 Operation Started! I 03:26:45 Building Image Tree... I 03:26:46 Calculating Totals... I 03:26:46 Preparing Image... I 03:26:54 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:26:54 Content Type: Data I 03:26:54 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:26:54 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:26:54 Volume Label: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:26:54 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:26:54 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:26:54 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:54 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:26:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:13 I 03:26:58 Operation Started! I 03:26:58 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 03:26:58 Source File Sectors: 198 640 (MODE1/2048) I 03:26:58 Source File Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:58 Source File Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:26:58 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 03:26:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 03:26:58 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 03:26:58 Destination Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 03:26:58 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 03:26:58 Destination Media Sectors: 359 847 I 03:26:58 Write Mode: CD I 03:26:58 Write Type: SAO I 03:26:58 Write Speed: 16x I 03:26:58 Lock Volume: Yes I 03:26:58 Test Mode: No I 03:26:58 OPC: Yes I 03:26:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 03:27:31 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 03:27:32 Writing LeadIn... I 03:27:44 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:27:44 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:30:37 Synchronising Cache... I 03:30:54 Exporting Graph Data... I 03:30:54 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_03-26_97m27s18f_16x.ibg I 03:30:54 Export Successfully Completed! I 03:30:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:55 I 03:30:54 Average Write Rate: 2 323 KB/s (15.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2 428 KB/s (16.2x) I 03:30:54 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 03:31:03 Waiting for device to become ready... I 03:31:09 Device Ready! I 03:31:09 Operation Started! I 03:31:10 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 03:31:10 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 03:31:10 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 03:31:10 Image File Sectors: 198 640 (MODE1/2048) I 03:31:10 Image File Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:31:10 Image File Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:31:10 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 03:31:10 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 03:31:10 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 03:31:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): 16x / 16x I 03:31:11 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:31:11 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:37:46 Exporting Graph Data... I 03:37:46 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_03-26_97m27s18f_16x.ibg I 03:37:46 Export Successfully Completed! I 03:37:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:36 I 03:37:46 Average Verify Rate: 1 008 KB/s (6.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1 332 KB/s (8.9x) I 03:37:51 Close Request Acknowledged I 03:37:51 Closing Down... I 03:37:52 Shutting down SPTI... I 03:37:52 ImgBurn closed! ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log ; Dienstag, 10 November 2009, 20:50:39 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 20:47:06 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 20:47:06 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3, v.5857) I 20:47:06 Total Physical Memory: 3 144 108 KB - Available: 2 292 296 KB W 20:47:06 Drive B:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive P:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive S:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive T:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive U:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:47:06 Initialising SPTI... I 20:47:06 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:47:06 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 20:47:52 Operation Started! I 20:47:52 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 20:47:52 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 20:47:52 Source Media Sectors: 198 640 I 20:47:52 Source Media Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 20:47:52 Source Media Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 20:47:52 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: 3B6A1B56000307E3 I 20:47:52 Source Media Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 20:47:52 Source Media Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 20:47:52 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 20:47:52 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x I 20:47:52 Destination File: C:\TEMP\Mail Thunderbird 11-2009.iso I 20:47:52 Destination Free Space: 3 948 728 320 Bytes (3 856 180 KB) (3 765 MB) (3 GB) I 20:47:52 Destination File System: NTFS I 20:47:52 File Splitting: Auto I 20:48:46 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 20:48:46 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 20:50:16 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:50:16 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_20-47_97m27s18f.ibg I 20:50:16 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:50:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:23 I 20:50:16 Average Read Rate: 2 778 KB/s (18.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5 743 KB/s (38.3x) I 20:50:39 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:50:39 Closing Down... I 20:50:39 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:50:39 ImgBurn closed!

I flashed from 1.01 to 1.09, but nothing has changed. So I should rather ask Sony/NEC what's happening. Not much hope I'll get through to them. Anyway, thanks a lot; ImageBurn is a fantastic piece of software.

If I set the speed for burning a DVD to 4x (and drive and DVD could do 16x), it will be burned as expected (4x all through), the check will be done with maximum speed (4x >> 16x, so verify takes less than half the time of burning), which I think is o.k. However with CDs, it's different: if I set the speed to 16x (drive and CD could do with 48x or 54x) they will be burned as I specify (16x all through), but the verify will also be done with the speed set for burning (4x >> 16x), so verify takes about 3 times the time of burning! So it's unnecessarily done in a kind of "silent" mode. It is always like that, obviously not depending on disk brand, contents, or quality of burning. I am not sure whether it matters, but I only burn data disks. I haven't found a setting for the verify speed (except some button for DVD/Plextor, which I left marked as it is default), so I wonder whether this behaviour is caused by the drive's firmware? The drive is an Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.01 (ATA). I have not used any software to change drive settings from factory defaults. It is not a serious problem, but think it's a strange behaviour. If it is not caused by ImageBurn, there is probably nothing I can do. Any suggestions? I understand Optiarc drives are less perfect in reading CDs than DVDs, but starting with 4x up to 16x seems very slow. Thank You