yes thats what i was trying to say in my first post. i just did this last night. i was thinking though maybe i have only done it when using vob files. this time it is an iso i am trying to do, i dont know if this could be it. but do you know of any way i can get it to write to the first layer only, instead of it trying to put 2 gigs on each layer rather than 4 on the first layer.