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    Track Information Question: LTSA, LTS, LRA

    in ImgBurn Support

    Posted

    Hi Lightining,

    Thanks for the initial feedback.

     

     

     

    You are checking the discs in the same drive yeah? It could be that one just reports different LTS.

     

    Yes the readouts were done in the same drive, This was Drive#1, see below the details:

     

    Drive#1 (OK Disc): Info: MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (Y:) (SATA)

    Drive#2 (Nok Disc): Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-5280S 1.G8 (E:) (SATA)

     

     

     

    How big was the source ISO? Was it actually 339110 sectors and the drives have rounded up (TOC wise anyway) to 339112? In which case, that's probably why the first one works... its LTS is correct.

     

    I 11:40:34 Source File: C:\Users\Aben\Desktop\TD4P0302202EU_(AAA-BBB_CCC)_2015_Q4.iso
    I 11:40:34 Source File Sectors: 339,112 (MODE1/2048)
    I 11:40:34 Source File Size: 694,501,376 bytes
     
    I will post both Burning Logs in the end of the post.

     

     

    Read Test Info:

     

    Drive#1:

    MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (SATA)
Current Profile: CD-ROM


Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 339,112
Size: 694,501,376 bytes
Time: 75:23:37 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x


File System Information:
Sectors: 339,112
Size: 694,501,376 bytes
Time: 75:23:37 (MM:SS:FF)


TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 339112 / 75:23:37)


Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 339110, LRA: 0)


ATIP Information:
Disc ID: 97m24s01f
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Co.
Start Time of LeadIn: 97m24s01f
Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 79m59s72f

    Drive#2:

    MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (SATA)
Current Profile: CD-ROM


Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 339,112
Size: 694,501,376 bytes
Time: 75:23:37 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x


File System Information:
Sectors: 339,112
Size: 694,501,376 bytes
Time: 75:23:37 (MM:SS:FF)


TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 339112 / 75:23:37)


Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 339112, LRA: 0)


ATIP Information:
Disc ID: 97m24s01f
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Co.
Start Time of LeadIn: 97m24s01f
Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 79m59s72f

    Burning Logs:

     

    Drive#1:

    I 11:29:21 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 11:29:21 Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 11:29:21 Total Physical Memory: 16,720,080 KiB  -  Available: 14,725,928 KiB
I 11:29:21 Initialising SPTI...
I 11:29:21 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 11:29:21 -> Drive 1 - Info: MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (Y:) (SATA)
I 11:29:21 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 11:31:40 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 11:31:40 -> Drive 1 - Info: MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (Y:) (SATA)
I 11:31:40 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 11:40:34 Operation Started!
I 11:40:34 Source File: C:\Users\Aben\Desktop\TD4P0302202EU_(AAA-BBB_CCC)_2015_Q4.iso
I 11:40:34 Source File Sectors: 339,112 (MODE1/2048)
I 11:40:34 Source File Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 11:40:34 Source File Volume Identifier: TD4P0302202EU
I 11:40:34 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING
I 11:40:34 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet
I 11:40:34 Destination Device: [0:0:0] MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (Y:) (SATA)
I 11:40:34 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s01f, Taiyo Yuden Co.)
I 11:40:34 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x
I 11:40:34 Destination Media Sectors: 359,845
I 11:40:34 Write Mode: CD
I 11:40:34 Write Type: SAO
I 11:40:34 Write Speed: MAX
I 11:40:34 Lock Volume: Yes
I 11:40:34 Test Mode: No
I 11:40:34 OPC: No
I 11:40:34 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 11:40:38 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
I 11:40:38 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 11:40:38 Writing LeadIn...
I 11:41:06 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 11:41:07 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 11:45:28 Synchronising Cache...
I 11:45:47 Exporting Graph Data...
I 11:45:47 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Aben\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_DVD+-RW_UJ8E1_D.03_FRIDAY-JULY-15-2016_11-40_AM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg
I 11:45:47 Export Successfully Completed!
I 11:45:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:13
I 11:45:47 Average Write Rate: 2,598 KiB/s (15.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,602 KiB/s (20.9x)
I 11:45:47 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 11:45:59 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 11:46:47 Device Ready!
I 11:46:48 Operation Started!
I 11:46:48 Source Device: [0:0:0] MATSHITA DVD+-RW UJ8E1 D.03 (Y:) (SATA)
I 11:46:48 Source Media Type: CD-ROM
I 11:46:48 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x
I 11:46:48 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x
I 11:46:48 Source Media Sectors: 339,112
I 11:46:48 Source Media Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 11:46:49 Image File: C:\Users\Aben\Desktop\TD4P0302202EU_(AAA-BBB_CCC)_2015_Q4.iso
I 11:46:49 Image File Sectors: 339,112 (MODE1/2048)
I 11:46:49 Image File Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 11:46:49 Image File Volume Identifier: TD4P0302202EU
I 11:46:49 Image File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING
I 11:46:49 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet
I 11:46:49 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 11:46:50 Read Speed - Effective: 24x
I 11:46:50 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 11:46:50 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 11:51:16 Exporting Graph Data...
I 11:51:16 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Aben\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_DVD+-RW_UJ8E1_D.03_FRIDAY-JULY-15-2016_11-40_AM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg
I 11:51:16 Export Successfully Completed!
I 11:51:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:26
I 11:51:16 Average Verify Rate: 2,559 KiB/s (14.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,664 KiB/s (21.3x)

    Drive#2:

    I 10:35:36 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 10:35:36 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 10:35:36 Total Physical Memory: 8,302,016 KiB  -  Available: 5,657,576 KiB
I 10:35:36 Initialising SPTI...
I 10:35:36 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 10:35:37 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-5280S 1.G8 (E:) (SATA)
I 10:35:37 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 10:37:21 Operation Started!
I 10:37:21 Source File: P:\2016\PSA\RT4-RT5\2016-2017\TD4P0302202EU_(Spain-Portugal_RT5)_2015_Q4.iso
I 10:37:21 Source File Sectors: 339,112 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:37:21 Source File Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 10:37:21 Source File Volume Identifier: TD4P0302202EU
I 10:37:21 Source File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING
I 10:37:21 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet
I 10:37:21 Destination Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5280S 1.G8 (E:) (SATA)
I 10:37:21 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s01f, Taiyo Yuden Co.)
I 10:37:21 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
I 10:37:21 Destination Media Sectors: 359,845
I 10:37:21 Write Mode: CD
I 10:37:21 Write Type: SAO
I 10:37:21 Write Speed: MAX
I 10:37:21 Lock Volume: Yes
I 10:37:21 Test Mode: No
I 10:37:21 OPC: No
I 10:37:21 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:37:21 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,467 KB/s (48x)
I 10:37:22 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 10:37:25 Writing LeadIn...
I 10:37:38 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 10:37:38 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 10:40:10 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:40:24 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:40:24 Graph Data File: C:\Users\cdp\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-5280S_1.G8_FRIDAY-JULY-15-2016_10-37_AM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg
I 10:40:24 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:40:24 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:02
I 10:40:24 Average Write Rate: 4,491 KiB/s (26.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 7,012 KiB/s (40.7x)
I 10:40:24 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 10:40:32 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 10:40:41 Device Ready!
I 10:40:43 Operation Started!
I 10:40:43 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-5280S 1.G8 (E:) (SATA)
I 10:40:43 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s01f, Taiyo Yuden Co.)
I 10:40:43 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 10x, 20x, 40x, 48x
I 10:40:43 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 8x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
I 10:40:43 Source Media Sectors: 339,112
I 10:40:43 Source Media Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 10:40:43 Image File: P:\TD4P0302202EU_(AAA-BBB_CCC)_2015_Q4.iso
I 10:40:43 Image File Sectors: 339,112 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:40:43 Image File Size: 694,501,376 bytes
I 10:40:43 Image File Volume Identifier: TD4P0302202EU
I 10:40:43 Image File Application Identifier: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING
I 10:40:43 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet
I 10:40:43 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 10:40:44 Read Speed - Effective: 48x
I 10:40:44 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 10:40:44 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 339111)
I 10:43:06 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:43:06 Graph Data File: C:\Users\cdp\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-5280S_1.G8_FRIDAY-JULY-15-2016_10-37_AM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg
I 10:43:06 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:43:06 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:16
I 10:43:06 Average Verify Rate: 5,023 KiB/s (29.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 6,637 KiB/s (38.5x)
     

     

     
     

    Track Information Question: LTSA, LTS, LRA

    in ImgBurn Support

    Posted

    Hello all,

     

    I have been investigating an error in an Automotive Navigation System.

    The system does Map updates using CD.

     

    The same ISO image burned by ImgBurn (same version) in 2 different drives but same CD type gives different results.

    On Drive 1 i can burn the CD and successfully update the Map.

    On Drive 2 i can burn the CD but the Map update finishes with Error: "CD Incomplete or Damaged"

     

    Both CD-R copies have the same filesystem: ISO + Joliet
    Both CD-R copies have the same file structure and file sizes
    I made a bit to bit comparison of the HEX content of the 2 CDs and they are the same.
    Both CD-R read test show good quality (Nero CD Speed)
     
    The only difference I could find between them is in ImgBurn read test
    The LTS value of track 01 is different in the 2 CDs
     
    Drive#1 (OK)
    TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 339112 / 75:23:37)


Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 339110, LRA: 0)
    Drive#2 (Not OK)
    TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 / 00:02:00)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 339112 / 75:23:37)


Track Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 339112, LRA: 0)

    Questions:

    1- What is the meaning of LTSA, LTS and LRA? where can i find information on what do they really mean?

    2- Is there anyway to tweak the LTS value of track 1? I would like to make it smaller on Disc 2 to check if indeed this is the root cause for the failure of the map update.

     

    3-Is there any other test you guys think i can do to find differences between the 2 discs?

     

    Thanks for your help,

    Paulo

     
     
     
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