Dorttocs Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I heard the number of around 5 Years. I realize all media are made of different qualities. I am currently using Verbatim media. Do I need to worry about re-burning my movies after 5 years?
kevdriver Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Dorttocs, As long as you have been using good media, and have stored the burn't product correctly, in a case away from heat and humidity and bright sunlight I see no reason why the media wouldn't last for more than 5 years. I've viewed media I've made 4-5 years ago on less than perfect quality discs and they still play great with no apparent degradation in quality from the time they were originally burn't. Top of line media with proper storage = at least 5yrs storage time if not more, in my experiences anyways. With Verbatim media, I'd dare say minimum 5 years, probabley quite a few more. Edited March 16, 2006 by kevdriver
dbminter Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 CD theoretically was supposed to be 50 to 100 years. Now, 20 years into CD, we see the real value is about 20 years. DVD was listed at 100 to 200 years. I'd expect 30 to 50.
Kenadjian Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Yup, supose to be 100 years if treated right offcourse.
kevdriver Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 CD theoretically was supposed to be 50 to 100 years. Now, 20 years into CD, we see the real value is about 20 years. DVD was listed at 100 to 200 years. I'd expect 30 to 50. WOW! db, didn't realize cd and dvd media were meant to last that long............. Are you talking original media discs or backup media discs? Shit, I was worried after 5 or 6 years I'd have to start checking my backuped files on dvd to make sure they were still readable. Thanks for the clue in db............
chewy Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 I scanned a bunch of my 1 to 2 1/2 yr old dvd's, I reburned over a 100. Poor media is probably crap to start with but gets worse quicker?
polopony Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 yep CMC MAG is a perfect example and some of the other garbage can become unreadable in months
bill7621 Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Personally, I think the dvd's,good media of coarse, will be obsolete before it goes bad. The are always coming out with bigger, better, faster, cheaper ways of getting in your wallet! Edited March 17, 2006 by bill7621
dbminter Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Yeah, those values I stated were on pressed discs. Recordables are going to last far less time.
dbminter Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Many poor quality media will finish burning, read right fine, but, can be dead within a year. Vanguard, Princo, and AN31 hardly live beyond a year. CMC the same. CMC Imation CD-R's died on me within a year.
Movie Junkie Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 yep CMC MAG is a perfect example and some of the other garbage can become unreadable in monthsYou've got that right. Hell, some of the CMC crap isn't readable right after the burn.
dbminter Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 And the bloody stuff is everywhere! Discovered CMC listed on a DVD-RAM disc I couldn't read from!
kevdriver Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) And the bloody stuff is everywhere! Discovered CMC listed on a DVD-RAM disc I couldn't read from! Bloody wonderful mate, Guess alot of manufacturers are going with costs over quality............. Edited March 17, 2006 by kevdriver
kevdriver Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Yea I know db, but you would think these companies would fiqure out that a lot of people would rather pay a bit more for a bit less of quality materials rather then pay less for more sub standard materials. If everyone just stuck to the latter then as companies say their bottom line drop they might smarten up............. or at the very least look into what is the problem with the goods that aren't selling well. Edited March 17, 2006 by kevdriver
Kenadjian Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 Like I said once before, I gave TDK the arse as they too swaped there dye to CMC, I couldn't believe that a large reputable company like TDK would do that, worse still, when I notified them of there fatal mistake, there atitude was one of we don't care, "take it or leave it". So, I left it. Verbs are the go for me now, love that MCC dye.
Movie Junkie Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) The problem is that people, like us, who know about what's good and bad are in the minority. Most people who purchase the discs are simply looking for a low price. When they see a spindle of 100 discs for $10.00 with a rebate of $5.00 they don't stop to think that there is no way they are getting a decent product. The companies that make this crap are just pandering to the people that put price above anything else. [soapbox Mode Off] Edited March 18, 2006 by Movie Junkie
dbminter Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 Yes, as has been noted, the manufacturers KNOW that they're using when they're using and actively chose it. Because they know that, like all of us, someone else in the future will be the new sucker born every minute. Even though most will learn not to use their products in the future, they also know that in the short term, they can pocket a heafty profit. When the information finally becomes public knowledge and the profits aren't outweighed by the cost of this business practice anymore, then, the smaller companies get out of it. As we have already seen done with some companies pulling out of any optical media or drive manufacturing all together, outsourcing it.
Movie Junkie Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 That is why we need to constantly harp about this junk whenever we can. We also need to support the two or three companies that DO put out quality media.
dbminter Posted March 20, 2006 Posted March 20, 2006 I was thinking the other day of starting a CMC thread in the drives/media forum thing here. Copies from my TXT file of notes of CMC CD and DVD media
Kenadjian Posted March 20, 2006 Posted March 20, 2006 They would have to be very short TXT files, wouldn't they DB? File 1 = CRAP File 2 = CRAP File 3 = CRAP
dbminter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Actually, my file is tremendous... unfortunately. Contains things like manufacturer information, DIP settings, etc. Plus, with an entry for nearly every type of recordable disc I've ever used...
Movie Junkie Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I was thinking the other day of starting a CMC thread in the drives/media forum thing here. Copies from my TXT file of notes of CMC CD and DVD mediaThat sounds like a good idea to me.
dbminter Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 In the interests of fair and balanced reporting of the facts I hooked up an USB DVD-RAM burner I have, one of the IOMega rebadged LG's. It managed to read in the two discs that the Lite-On couldn't.
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