Good burn?!?!

[HypnoToad]

In my last post I described a problem I was having problems burning with Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x across multiple drives, multiple computers and multiple burning software.

 

Anyway, to cut a long story short a third tub of Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x and a tub of TDK DVD+R DL 8x seems to have solved the problem and I can now verify the discs. Interestingly the TDK DVDs are outperforming the Verbatim DVDs.

 

Then however, I checked the discs with Nero's DiscSpeed quality check and got a rating of 0/100! I then tried DVDInfoPro's quality check test and got quality ratings in the range of 40-50/100.

 

Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x:

 

TDK DVD+R DL 8x:

 

Compare and contrast to Taiyo Yuden CD:

 

So my question is: What qualifies as a acceptable burn and what qualifies as a good burn in terms of DVDInfoPro's quality check?

 

 

Thanks,

 

David

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Scan at 4x and post new results.

 

What speed did you burn at?

 

A good burn is something that shows up as all green in DIP. The lower the numbers, the better.

[HypnoToad]

The discs were all burnt at the maximum supported for the LiteOn drive (DH20A4H QP5B), which for the verbatim media was <= 8x, but for the TDK media was <= 10x (TDK media listed as 8x). The drive burned both with a CLV-Z strategy.

 

Same TDK disc scanned at 4x:

 

Same Verbatim scanned at 4x:

 

Old Verbatim (that had the burning issues) at 4x:

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Ok well they're still both awful!

 

You can see what a Verb scan should look like by glancing at this thread - http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=9541

[HypnoToad]

Ok well they're still both awful!

 

You can see what a Verb scan should look like by glancing at this thread - http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=9541

 

Hmmm... that's what I thought!

 

 

Things I've tried so far:

• Different burning speeds (2.4x, 4x, 8x)
  
• Different drives (LiteOn LH-20A1P (KL0P), DH-20A4H (QP5B), SHW-1635S (YS0Z) and Pioneer DVR-110D (1.41))
  
• Different burning applications (Ashampoo Burning Studio 6 Free v6.1, Nero Express 6 SE v6.6.0.14, Gear Pro Mastering Edition v7.03 and ImgBurn v2.5.0.0)
  
• 4 different computers (to help rule out any machine related issues)
  
• Different operating systems (XP SP3 32 bit, Vista Business SP2 32 bit)
  
• Different physical location (to rule out any localised power problems)
  
• Different media (3 packs of Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x and 1 pack of TDK DVD+R DL 8x)
  

 

 

I'm trying a burn with a Samsung USB drive connected to a Mac now to see if removing Windows from the equation helps!

 

If you have any other ideas I'd be glad to hear them.

 

 

Thanks,

 

David

[HypnoToad]

Samsung (TSSTcorp) SE-S084B (FW: TS01) testing results:

 

Old Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x media (that had the burning issues), burnt @ 6x on a Mac, verified @ 4x on a PC:

 

New Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x media , burnt @ 6x on a Mac, verified @ 4x on a PC:

 

New Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x media , burnt @ 6x on a PC, verified @ 4x on a PC:

 

I 15:49:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!

I 15:49:39 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 15:49:39 Total Physical Memory: 1,048,048 KB - Available: 361,352 KB

I 15:49:40 Initialising SPTI...

I 15:49:40 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 15:49:44 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 2 DVD

TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SE_S084B_TS01_25_AUGUST_2009_15_50_MKM_003_00_MAX.ibg

TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SE_S084B_TS01_25_AUGUST_2009_15_50_MKM_003_00_MAX.log

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Maybe it's the scanning drive that's messed up?! Pick up one of the newer LiteON iHAP/iHAS models.

 

I certainly wouldn't be happy with any of those scans, they're shocking.

[HypnoToad]

You're not wrong about that:

 

Original scan in the LiteOn drive:

 

Scan in the Samsung USB drive:

 

 

I think I've got my answer now, poor reading by LiteOn drives and a batch of bad Verbatim media.

 

Cheers,

 

David