manicminer Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 I've installed ImgBurn as I've got completely tired of Roxio Creator, but unfortunately, the first disc image I want to burn doesn't work. I also get an application error window appear that has a scsi error of 0x02 - check condition - whatever that means. Here is the log: I 00:57:12 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 00:57:12 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 00:57:12 Total Physical Memory: 3,142,804 KB - Available: 1,783,824 KB I 00:57:12 Initialising SPTI... I 00:57:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 00:57:12 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! I 00:57:41 Operation Started! I 00:57:41 Source File: C:\Users\Secu1\Downloads\en_windows_7_ultimate_x86_dvd_x15-65921.iso I 00:57:41 Source File Sectors: 1,221,628 (MODE1/2048) I 00:57:41 Source File Size: 2,501,894,144 bytes I 00:57:41 Source File Volume Identifier: GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD I 00:57:41 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 315f0800MS UDFBridge I 00:57:41 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.54 (01/01/2005 TM) I 00:57:41 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 00:57:41 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), UDF (1.02) I 00:57:41 Destination Device: [1:0:0] MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-220 1.00 (D:) (ATA) I 00:57:41 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: PRODISC-R03-03) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 00:57:41 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 00:57:41 Write Mode: DVD I 00:57:41 Write Type: DAO I 00:57:41 Write Speed: 4x I 00:57:41 DVD+R Reserve Track: No I 00:57:41 Link Size: Auto I 00:57:41 Lock Volume: Yes I 00:57:41 Test Mode: No I 00:57:41 OPC: No I 00:57:41 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 00:57:42 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 00:57:43 Writing LeadIn... W 00:57:51 Failed to Write Sectors 3712 - 3743 - Reason: Unknown (ASC: 0x09, ASCQ: 0x90) W 00:57:51 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:57:51 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 00:57:51 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:58:00 Retrying (21)... W 00:58:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC W 00:58:03 Retrying (22)... W 00:58:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Unable to Recover TOC E 00:58:05 Failed to Write Sectors 3712 - 3743 - Reason: Unknown (ASC: 0x09, ASCQ: 0x90) I 00:58:05 Synchronising Cache... W 00:58:11 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions. E 00:58:11 Failed to Write Image! E 00:58:11 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:30 I 00:58:11 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)
mmalves Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Your burner doesn't like the blanks you're using. You could try burning at 2.4x, but it would be better if you used Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks.
manicminer Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Your burner doesn't like the blanks you're using. You could try burning at 2.4x, but it would be better if you used Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks. Nah, its not the media, I get perfect burns at 4x with Roxio and it also works at 4x with MagicISO and Vista's own burning feature. I burnt the image with MagicISO using the same disc as ImgBurn refused to write to and it worked OK. I suspect ImgBurn doesn't understand the responses from the drive. I suppose its a question of waiting for the drive to be added - might be a long wait as there probably weren't that many people taking up the £500 premium for BD-RE on their XPS...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Drives are supposed to follow the MMC specs, I don't have to 'understand' individual ones. W 00:57:51 Failed to Write Sectors 3712 - 3743 - Reason: Unknown (ASC: 0x09, ASCQ: 0x90) Your drive is reporting the error, not ImgBurn. You can see from here - http://www.t10.org/lists/asc-num.txt - that ASC 0x09 is something along these lines. ASC-Q 0x90 is a Vendor Unique code and so doesn't appear in the list. 09h/00h DT WRO B TRACK FOLLOWING ERROR 09h/01h WRO K TRACKING SERVO FAILURE 09h/02h WRO K FOCUS SERVO FAILURE 09h/03h WRO SPINDLE SERVO FAILURE 09h/04h DT WRO B HEAD SELECT FAULT I 00:57:41 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: PRODISC-R03-03) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) 8x media showing up as 4x is never a good sign. Either the firmware is intentionally limiting the drive to 4x because the media is crap or the MID isn't in the firmware at all and the drive is using some default (useless) write strategy for it. I bet if you actually tried some *decent* other discs that it would work just fine.
manicminer Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Strange ImgBurn refuses to write to the DataWrite discs even at 2.4x - oh well, I know know, don't I !!! I broke into a keg of Verbatim discs (I'm still halfway through a keg of 100 DataWrite discs) and ImgBurn works, log below: I 16:43:26 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 16:43:26 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 16:43:26 Total Physical Memory: 3,142,804 KB - Available: 1,792,640 KB I 16:43:26 Initialising SPTI... I 16:43:26 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 16:43:27 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! I 16:45:34 Operation Started! I 16:45:34 Source File: C:\Users\Secu1\Downloads\en_windows_7_ultimate_x86_dvd_x15-65921.iso I 16:45:34 Source File Sectors: 1,221,628 (MODE1/2048) I 16:45:34 Source File Size: 2,501,894,144 bytes I 16:45:34 Source File Volume Identifier: GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD I 16:45:34 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 315f0800MS UDFBridge I 16:45:34 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.54 (01/01/2005 TM) I 16:45:34 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 16:45:34 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), UDF (1.02) I 16:45:34 Destination Device: [1:0:0] MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-220 1.00 (D:) (ATA) I 16:45:34 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 16:45:34 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 16:45:34 Write Mode: DVD I 16:45:34 Write Type: DAO I 16:45:34 Write Speed: MAX I 16:45:34 DVD+R Reserve Track: No I 16:45:34 Link Size: Auto I 16:45:34 Lock Volume: Yes I 16:45:34 Test Mode: No I 16:45:34 OPC: No I 16:45:34 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 16:45:34 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 16:45:35 Writing LeadIn... I 16:45:57 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1221627) I 16:45:57 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1221627) I 16:53:28 Synchronising Cache... I 16:53:31 Closing Track... I 16:53:32 Finalising Disc... I 16:53:51 Exporting Graph Data... I 16:53:51 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Secu1\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_BD-RE_UJ-220_1.00_10-OCTOBER-2009_16-45_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 16:53:51 Export Successfully Completed! I 16:53:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:17 I 16:53:51 Average Write Rate: 5,417 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,576 KB/s (6.2x) I 16:53:51 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 16:54:12 Waiting for device to become ready... I 16:54:18 Device Ready! I 16:54:20 Operation Started! I 16:54:20 Source Device: [1:0:0] MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-220 1.00 (D:) (ATA) I 16:54:20 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 16:54:20 Image File: C:\Users\Secu1\Downloads\en_windows_7_ultimate_x86_dvd_x15-65921.iso I 16:54:20 Image File Sectors: 1,221,628 (MODE1/2048) I 16:54:20 Image File Size: 2,501,894,144 bytes I 16:54:20 Image File Volume Identifier: GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD I 16:54:20 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 315f0800MS UDFBridge I 16:54:20 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.54 (01/01/2005 TM) I 16:54:20 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 16:54:20 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), UDF (1.02) I 16:54:20 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 16:54:20 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1221627) I 16:54:20 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1221627) I 17:00:27 Exporting Graph Data... I 17:00:27 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Secu1\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_BD-RE_UJ-220_1.00_10-OCTOBER-2009_16-45_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 17:00:27 Export Successfully Completed! I 17:00:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:06 I 17:00:27 Average Verify Rate: 6,675 KB/s (4.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 8,932 KB/s (6.4x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Strange ImgBurn refuses to write to the DataWrite discs even at 2.4x - oh well, I know know, don't I !!! No, not ImgBurn... your drive. All I do is feed it with data. The drive obviously doesn't like the 'PRODISC-R03-03' dye much and that's why it errors out. Now there's a chance you could adjust the settings away from their default values and it might start working - but in all honesty, you shouldn't have to if the drive/firmware/media combo worked properly in the first place. Try playing with the 'Write Type' setting and put it on 'Incremental' rather than 'DAO/SAO'. You could also try the 'DVD+R Reserve Track' one, and maybe even 'Perform OPC'.
manicminer Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 I still don't understand why Vista, Roxio and MagicISO burn these "DataWrite" discs without problem? I assume they must parse the results from the drive and do something else to make the drive work. Thanks for your help though, when I'm buying discs in future, it'll be Verbatim.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 They must not be getting the error from the drive, that's all. (Like how ImgBurn didn't get it when you used the decent media) The settings I mentioned to change can get around certain issues that certain drives have. Perhaps those other program use them by default, I really don't know. Changing them shouldn't make any difference to a decent drive with decent firmware, but sometimes they just do. The way I have the settings configured by default works best for most drives. Changing them will make it mess up for a lot more drives than it fixes things for.
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