WhyNot47 Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 If I set the speed for burning a DVD to 4x (and drive and DVD could do 16x), it will be burned as expected (4x all through), the check will be done with maximum speed (4x >> 16x, so verify takes less than half the time of burning), which I think is o.k. However with CDs, it's different: if I set the speed to 16x (drive and CD could do with 48x or 54x) they will be burned as I specify (16x all through), but the verify will also be done with the speed set for burning (4x >> 16x), so verify takes about 3 times the time of burning! So it's unnecessarily done in a kind of "silent" mode. It is always like that, obviously not depending on disk brand, contents, or quality of burning. I am not sure whether it matters, but I only burn data disks. I haven't found a setting for the verify speed (except some button for DVD/Plextor, which I left marked as it is default), so I wonder whether this behaviour is caused by the drive's firmware? The drive is an Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.01 (ATA). I have not used any software to change drive settings from factory defaults. It is not a serious problem, but think it's a strange behaviour. If it is not caused by ImageBurn, there is probably nothing I can do. Any suggestions? I understand Optiarc drives are less perfect in reading CDs than DVDs, but starting with 4x up to 16x seems very slow. Thank You
mmalves Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 Update your burner's firmware (remove any disc and close the tray before updating then reboot after it's finished) and check if that still happens.
WhyNot47 Posted November 10, 2009 Author Posted November 10, 2009 Update your burner's firmware (remove any disc and close the tray before updating then reboot after it's finished) and check if that still happens. I flashed from 1.01 to 1.09, but nothing has changed. So I should rather ask Sony/NEC what's happening. Not much hope I'll get through to them. Anyway, thanks a lot; ImageBurn is a fantastic piece of software.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 The verify speed is written in the log window when the verify starts. Does it actually say 'MAX' or whatever? If you'd posted a log in the first place (like you're supposed to ) , I wouldn't have had to ask for the info
WhyNot47 Posted November 10, 2009 Author Posted November 10, 2009 The verify speed is written in the log window when the verify starts. Does it actually say 'MAX' or whatever? If you'd posted a log in the first place (like you're supposed to ) , I wouldn't have had to ask for the info I am sorry about the missing log, yesterday it seemed to be lost (log dir empty). I forgot that I start ImageBurn by a script with another identity. Today I remembered and found all logs in the folder of that user. As I stated, the write rate is o.k. (I had limited id by settings to 16x): Average Write Rate: 2 323 KB/s (15.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2 428 KB/s (16.2x) wheras the verify rate is poor: Average Verify Rate: 1 008 KB/s (6.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1 332 KB/s (8.9x) THIS IS SHOWN IN THE 1RST LOG FILE. Today I used ImageBurn to make a HD image of the disk I burnt yesterday, then I let ImageBurn make a seperate verify of that disk image against the CD used. The rate is not perfect, but acceptable: Average Read Rate: 2 778 KB/s (18.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5 743 KB/s (38.3x) THIS IS SHOWN IN THE 2ND LOG FILE. It seems the player/burner is capable to read fast enough, and does do so in a SEPERATE verify task. However, the rate is poor if it is done IN ONE GO (burning and verify). As I told in my 1rst post, this happens only with CD, not with DVD. Any idea? Did I perhaps use some wrong setting? BESIDES THAT, IMAGEBURN IS BY FAR THE BEST BURNING PROGRAM I HAVE FOUND. Thank You in advance if you'll have time to read this. ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log ; Dienstag, 10 November 2009, 03:37:52 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 03:23:58 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 03:23:58 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3, v.5857) I 03:23:58 Total Physical Memory: 3 144 108 KB - Available: 2 114 512 KB W 03:23:58 Drive B:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive P:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive S:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive T:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 03:23:58 Drive U:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 03:23:58 Initialising SPTI... I 03:23:58 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 03:23:58 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 03:25:28 Operation Started! I 03:25:28 Building Image Tree... I 03:25:28 Calculating Totals... I 03:25:28 Preparing Image... I 03:25:37 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:25:37 Content Type: Data I 03:25:37 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:25:37 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:25:37 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 03:25:37 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:25:37 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:25:37 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:25:37 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:25:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 03:25:55 Operation Started! I 03:25:55 Building Image Tree... I 03:25:56 Calculating Totals... I 03:25:56 Preparing Image... I 03:26:04 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:26:04 Content Type: Data I 03:26:04 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:26:04 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:26:04 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 03:26:04 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:26:04 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:26:04 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:04 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:26:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 03:26:45 Operation Started! I 03:26:45 Building Image Tree... I 03:26:46 Calculating Totals... I 03:26:46 Preparing Image... I 03:26:54 Contents: 1 237 Files, 232 Folders I 03:26:54 Content Type: Data I 03:26:54 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 03:26:54 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 03:26:54 Volume Label: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:26:54 Size: 400 735 931 bytes I 03:26:54 Sectors: 196 167 I 03:26:54 Image Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:54 Image Sectors: 198 640 I 03:26:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:13 I 03:26:58 Operation Started! I 03:26:58 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 03:26:58 Source File Sectors: 198 640 (MODE1/2048) I 03:26:58 Source File Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:26:58 Source File Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:26:58 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 03:26:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 03:26:58 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 03:26:58 Destination Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 03:26:58 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f, Plasmon Data Systems) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 03:26:58 Destination Media Sectors: 359 847 I 03:26:58 Write Mode: CD I 03:26:58 Write Type: SAO I 03:26:58 Write Speed: 16x I 03:26:58 Lock Volume: Yes I 03:26:58 Test Mode: No I 03:26:58 OPC: Yes I 03:26:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 03:27:31 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 03:27:32 Writing LeadIn... I 03:27:44 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:27:44 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:30:37 Synchronising Cache... I 03:30:54 Exporting Graph Data... I 03:30:54 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_03-26_97m27s18f_16x.ibg I 03:30:54 Export Successfully Completed! I 03:30:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:55 I 03:30:54 Average Write Rate: 2 323 KB/s (15.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2 428 KB/s (16.2x) I 03:30:54 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 03:31:03 Waiting for device to become ready... I 03:31:09 Device Ready! I 03:31:09 Operation Started! I 03:31:10 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 03:31:10 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 03:31:10 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 03:31:10 Image File Sectors: 198 640 (MODE1/2048) I 03:31:10 Image File Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 03:31:10 Image File Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 03:31:10 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 03:31:10 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 03:31:10 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 03:31:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): 16x / 16x I 03:31:11 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:31:11 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:37:46 Exporting Graph Data... I 03:37:46 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_03-26_97m27s18f_16x.ibg I 03:37:46 Export Successfully Completed! I 03:37:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:36 I 03:37:46 Average Verify Rate: 1 008 KB/s (6.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 1 332 KB/s (8.9x) I 03:37:51 Close Request Acknowledged I 03:37:51 Closing Down... I 03:37:52 Shutting down SPTI... I 03:37:52 ImgBurn closed! ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log ; Dienstag, 10 November 2009, 20:50:39 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 20:47:06 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 20:47:06 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3, v.5857) I 20:47:06 Total Physical Memory: 3 144 108 KB - Available: 2 292 296 KB W 20:47:06 Drive B:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive P:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive S:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive T:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:47:06 Drive U:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:47:06 Initialising SPTI... I 20:47:06 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:47:06 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 20:47:52 Operation Started! I 20:47:52 Source Device: [3:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.09 (I:) (ATA) I 20:47:52 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m27s18f) (Speeds: 8x; 16x; 24x; 32x; 40x; 48x) I 20:47:52 Source Media Sectors: 198 640 I 20:47:52 Source Media Size: 406 814 720 bytes I 20:47:52 Source Media Volume Identifier: Mail Thunderbird 11-2009 I 20:47:52 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: 3B6A1B56000307E3 I 20:47:52 Source Media Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 20:47:52 Source Media Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 20:47:52 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet; UDF (1.02) I 20:47:52 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x I 20:47:52 Destination File: C:\TEMP\Mail Thunderbird 11-2009.iso I 20:47:52 Destination Free Space: 3 948 728 320 Bytes (3 856 180 KB) (3 765 MB) (3 GB) I 20:47:52 Destination File System: NTFS I 20:47:52 File Splitting: Auto I 20:48:46 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 20:48:46 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 20:50:16 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:50:16 Graph Data File: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\RKS_GIG\Anwendungsdaten\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203A_1.09_DIENSTAG-10-NOVEMBER-2009_20-47_97m27s18f.ibg I 20:50:16 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:50:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:23 I 20:50:16 Average Read Rate: 2 778 KB/s (18.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5 743 KB/s (38.3x) I 20:50:39 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:50:39 Closing Down... I 20:50:39 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:50:39 ImgBurn closed!
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 16x might not be a valid read speed for your, leave it on MAX. I 03:31:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): 16x / 16xI 03:31:11 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 03:31:11 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639) Notice it's on MAX when you're in Read mode. I 20:47:52 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8xI 20:47:52 Destination File: C:\TEMP\Mail Thunderbird 11-2009.iso I 20:47:52 Destination Free Space: 3 948 728 320 Bytes (3 856 180 KB) (3 765 MB) (3 GB) I 20:47:52 Destination File System: NTFS I 20:47:52 File Splitting: Auto I 20:48:46 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 198639) I 20:48:46 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 198639)
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