bd-re in bdmv format - works on pc, not on ps3

[ockevin]

I have been successfully using Imgburn in a process of backing up my blu-rays to ISO files on my HDD. That process includes Anydvd, then clownbd (and its associates parts), then imgburn. Using default setting on all. I use PowerDVD to play on PC and works great. I now am having a problem when trying to trasnfer to BD-RE discs. I tried using the ISO files as source,then the BDMV+certificate folders, and the BD-RE can be played back on the PC using PowerDVD, but when I put it in my PS3, it doesn't show under video, no error messages, just gets ignored. It reminds me of a DVD that is not finalized; does Imgburn have a finalization that is needed when creating on BD-RE?

[mmalves]

ImgBurn always finalises discs. Please post the log of that burn from the BDMV folder (you can find older logs in ImgBurn's Help menu).

[ockevin]

ImgBurn always finalises discs. Please post the log of that burn from the BDMV folder (you can find older logs in ImgBurn's Help menu).

 

Thanks for responding. Here is the log (ANYDVD was disabled at the time):

 

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; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log

; Thursday, 10 December 2009, 20:37:32

; \\****************************************//

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I 17:30:52 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!

I 17:30:52 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600)

I 17:30:52 Total Physical Memory: 9,427,956 KB - Available: 7,744,592 KB

W 17:30:52 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!

I 17:30:53 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:30:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:30:59 Found 1 BD-RE!

I 17:32:25 Operation Started!

I 17:32:25 Device: [0:2:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH20N C106 (E:) (ATAPI)

I 17:32:25 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: CMCMAG-CN2-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 17:32:25 Quick Erase: No

I 17:32:25 Format Properly: Yes

I 17:32:25 Format Size: Preferred

I 17:32:25 Format With Full Certification: Yes

I 17:32:25 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes

I 17:32:25 Erasing Disc...

I 18:44:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:12:02

I 18:44:27 Operation Started!

I 18:44:27 Device: [0:2:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH20N C106 (E:) (ATAPI)

I 18:44:27 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: CMCMAG-CN2-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 18:44:27 Media Sectors: 12,219,392

I 18:44:27 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 18:44:27 Zeroing Sectors...

I 19:25:17 Synchronising Cache...

I 19:25:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:40:49 - Total Duration: 01:52:52

I 19:25:17 Average Write Rate: 9,979 KB/s (2.2x)

I 19:25:19 Operation Started!

I 19:25:19 Building Image Tree...

I 19:25:50 Calculating Totals...

I 19:25:50 Preparing Image...

I 19:25:50 Contents: 9 Files, 14 Folders

I 19:25:50 Content Type: BD Video

I 19:25:50 Data Type: MODE1/2048

I 19:25:50 File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 19:25:50 Volume Label: abdwork

I 19:25:50 Size: 16,154,084,588 bytes

I 19:25:50 Sectors: 7,887,742

I 19:25:50 Image Size: 16,155,082,752 bytes

I 19:25:50 Image Sectors: 7,888,224

I 19:50:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:24:52

I 19:50:11 Operation Started!

I 19:50:11 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 19:50:11 Source File Sectors: 7,888,224 (MODE1/2048)

I 19:50:11 Source File Size: 16,155,082,752 bytes

I 19:50:11 Source File Volume Identifier: abdwork

I 19:50:11 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0

I 19:50:11 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 19:50:11 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 19:50:11 Destination Device: [0:2:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH20N C106 (E:) (ATAPI)

I 19:50:11 Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: CMCMAG-CN2-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 19:50:11 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392

I 19:50:11 Write Mode: BD

I 19:50:11 Write Type: DAO

I 19:50:11 Write Speed: MAX

I 19:50:11 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 19:50:11 Link Size: Auto

I 19:50:11 Lock Volume: Yes

I 19:50:11 Test Mode: No

I 19:50:11 OPC: No

I 19:50:11 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 19:50:12 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 19:50:12 Writing LeadIn...

I 19:50:15 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 7888223)

I 19:50:15 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 7888223)

I 20:16:10 Synchronising Cache...

I 20:16:11 Exporting Graph Data...

I 20:16:11 Graph Data File: C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH20N_C106_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-10-2009_7-50_PM_CMCMAG-CN2-00_MAX.ibg

I 20:16:11 Export Successfully Completed!

I 20:16:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:25:59

I 20:16:11 Average Write Rate: 10,152 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,518 KB/s (2.3x)

I 20:16:11 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 20:16:19 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 20:16:37 Device Ready!

I 20:16:38 Operation Started!

I 20:16:38 Source Device: [0:2:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH20N C106 (E:) (ATAPI)

I 20:16:38 Source Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: CMCMAG-CN2-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 20:16:38 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-

I 20:16:38 Image File Sectors: 7,888,224 (MODE1/2048)

I 20:16:38 Image File Size: 16,155,082,752 bytes

I 20:16:38 Image File Volume Identifier: abdwork

I 20:16:38 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0

I 20:16:38 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 20:16:38 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)

I 20:16:38 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX

I 20:16:38 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 7888223)

I 20:16:38 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 7888223)

I 20:36:08 Exporting Graph Data...

I 20:36:09 Graph Data File: C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH20N_C106_THURSDAY-DECEMBER-10-2009_7-50_PM_CMCMAG-CN2-00_MAX.ibg

I 20:36:09 Export Successfully Completed!

I 20:36:09 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:30

I 20:36:09 Average Verify Rate: 13,484 KB/s (3.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 18,535 KB/s (4.1x)

I 20:37:32 Close Request Acknowledged

I 20:37:32 Closing Down...

I 20:37:32 Shutting down SPTI...

I 20:37:32 ImgBurn closed!

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[mmalves]

Have you tried that disc on other PS3 or other BluRay players? Try with a Verbatim BD-RE disc, as in our experience Verbatim works best for most people.

[ockevin]

I tried Verbatim BD-RE and still have the problem. The disc reads on the PC it was created on, but not on my PS3. I also tried on another PC. In both of the 'other' machines I get no error message, and both act as if nothing is in the drive. The symptoms are similar to not finalizing in that it is ignored by other machines. This is true for Phillips and Verbatim discs, and multiple attempts with different movies. Below is the profile that Imgburn gives me when loaded into the machine that created it. I hope that someone might be able to point out some setting error or obvious user error.

 

HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH20N C106 (ATAPI)

Current Profile: BD-RE

 

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 12,219,392

Size: 25,025,314,816 bytes

Time: 2715:27:17 (MM:SS:FF)

 

File System Information:

Sectors: 10,584,320

Size: 21,676,687,360 bytes

Time: 2352:06:20 (MM:SS:FF)

 

TOC Information:

Session 1... (LBA: 0)

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 12219391)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 12219392)

 

Track Information:

Session 1...

-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, TS: 12219392, LRA: 0)

 

BD Disc Information:

Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00

Disc Type: BD-RE

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You might need spare areas enabled on the formatted disc for the PS3 to read it... or perhaps it just doesn't like the disc content.

[HorseyBoy]

Seems like an odd problem, ockevin. All I can tell you is that I've never had a problem using ImgBurn and BD-RE discs (Verbatim and TDK) with my PS3. I've never burned from an ISO - always just the BDMV folder - but the PS3 has read every disc just fine.

[ockevin]

I am starting to wonder about the formatting. The first time I use the BD-RE, Imgburn says it needs formatting and asks if I want to let it do the format, and I say yes. Is this what you do, is there an alternative?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

No, a blank BD-RE always needs formatting first. The drive will just reject the 'Write' commands if it hasn't been formatted first.

 

There are options in the settings to enable/disable spare areas. By default the discs are formatted with them disabled.

[HorseyBoy]

I am starting to wonder about the formatting. The first time I use the BD-RE, Imgburn says it needs formatting and asks if I want to let it do the format, and I say yes. Is this what you do, is there an alternative?

 

Yes, I just let ImgBurn do the formatting. Always a full format (not a quick format), using the ImgBurn defaults (ie, spare areas disabled).

[ockevin]

Success! I want to thank everyone for their help, especially Lightning UK; I believe the enabling of spare areas led to a successfull PS3 readable BD-RE. I do have a question; I began in explorer, I right clicked the BR drive and selected format. It ran in seconds, and when finished, I tried to burn the BD-RE with ImgBurn. ImgBurn stated formatting was needed, and I then ran with spare areas enabled. This created the successful BD-RE, but just wondering about that Window 7 'format'. I had read that 3rd party formats were required for BD-RE, what did that Windows format do?

[mmalves]

It was probably the same as ImgBurn's Quick Erase, where just the first 800 sectors of a disc are erased.

[ockevin]

Thanks, that makes sense with how fast it ran. I did some reading on spare areas, and from what I read it appeared to be the standard to have spare areas. I realize that eats up some space on the BD. I am wondering how is it that 'no spare areas' works in some cases (can be read by some players), and doesn't work in others? I have only used BD-RE, what about BD-R? Most importantly, is there a way to 'format only' or 'force a format' with Imgburn? Again, I am trying to learn, and I appreciate all the help given on this forum.

Edited January 1, 2010 by ockevin