fishbulb Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I bought my computer second-hand and have only just started using the TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652L burner that came with it. My first attempts to burn dual layer discs with Nero failed so I tried ImgBurn, but that failed too. I have perused the forums for 5 minutes so I know what the likely answers are already, but here are my questions: How do I update my firmware? How do I know the Verbatim discs you'll tell me to buy weren't made by Ritek or CMC? Wikipedia tells me that Verbatim uses those discs as well as their own. My link here's my burn log if it helps I 12:26:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started! I 12:26:49 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:26:49 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,364 KB - Available: 1,349,264 KB I 12:26:49 Initialising SPTI... I 12:26:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:26:50 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 12:41:41 Operation Started! I 12:41:41 Building Image Tree... I 12:41:41 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:41:41 Calculating Totals... I 12:41:41 Preparing Image... I 12:41:42 Checking Path Length... I 12:41:42 Contents: 21 Files, 8 Folders I 12:41:42 Content Type: Data I 12:41:42 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 12:41:42 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:41:42 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 12:41:42 Size: 8,581,860,322 bytes I 12:41:42 Sectors: 4,190,370 I 12:41:42 Image Size: 8,582,529,024 bytes I 12:41:42 Image Sectors: 4,190,688 I 12:41:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 12:42:30 Operation Started! I 12:42:30 Building Image Tree... I 12:42:30 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:42:31 Calculating Totals... I 12:42:31 Preparing Image... I 12:42:31 Checking Path Length... I 12:42:31 Contents: 40 Files, 8 Folders I 12:42:31 Content Type: Data I 12:42:31 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 12:42:31 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:42:31 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 12:42:31 Size: 7,813,444,718 bytes I 12:42:31 Sectors: 3,815,167 I 12:42:31 Image Size: 7,814,152,192 bytes I 12:42:31 Image Sectors: 3,815,504 I 12:42:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 12:44:14 Operation Started! I 12:44:14 Building Image Tree... I 12:44:14 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:44:14 Calculating Totals... I 12:44:14 Preparing Image... I 12:44:14 Checking Path Length... I 12:44:14 Contents: 40 Files, 8 Folders I 12:44:14 Content Type: Data I 12:44:14 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 12:44:14 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:44:14 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 12:44:14 Size: 7,813,444,718 bytes I 12:44:14 Sectors: 3,815,167 I 12:44:14 Image Size: 7,814,152,192 bytes I 12:44:14 Image Sectors: 3,815,504 I 12:44:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 12:47:24 Operation Started! I 12:47:24 Building Image Tree... I 12:47:35 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:47:35 Calculating Totals... I 12:47:35 Preparing Image... I 12:47:35 Checking Path Length... I 12:47:35 Contents: 40 Files, 8 Folders I 12:47:35 Content Type: Data I 12:47:35 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 12:47:35 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:47:35 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 12:47:35 Size: 7,813,444,718 bytes I 12:47:36 Sectors: 3,815,167 I 12:47:36 Image Size: 7,814,152,192 bytes I 12:47:36 Image Sectors: 3,815,504 I 12:47:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:23 I 12:47:48 Operation Started! I 12:47:48 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:47:48 Source File Sectors: 3,815,504 (MODE1/2048) I 12:47:48 Source File Size: 7,814,152,192 bytes I 12:47:48 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 12:47:48 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:47:48 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:47:48 Destination Device: [1:1:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652L 0603 (F:) (ATA) I 12:47:48 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x) I 12:47:48 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 12:47:48 Write Mode: DVD I 12:47:48 Write Type: DAO I 12:47:48 Write Speed: MAX I 12:47:48 Link Size: Auto I 12:47:48 Lock Volume: Yes I 12:47:48 Test Mode: No I 12:47:48 OPC: No I 12:47:48 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:47:50 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 12:47:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,907,760 I 12:47:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 12:49:47 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 12:49:47 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 12:49:49 Writing LeadIn... I 12:49:50 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3815503) I 12:49:50 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3815503) I 12:49:50 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1907759) W 12:55:49 Failed to Write Sectors 1176000 - 1176031 - Reason: Write Error W 12:55:49 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:49 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 12:55:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:55:59 Retrying (21)... W 12:55:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:01 Retrying (22)... W 12:56:01 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:02 Retrying (23)... W 12:56:02 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:03 Retrying (24)... W 12:56:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:05 Retrying (25)... W 12:56:05 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:07 Retrying (26)... W 12:56:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write W 12:56:10 Retrying (27)... W 12:56:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write E 12:56:10 Failed to Write Sectors 1176000 - 1176031 - Reason: Write Error E 12:56:11 Next Writable Address: 1175492 I 12:56:11 Synchronising Cache... W 12:56:19 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions. E 12:56:19 Failed to Write Image! I 12:56:19 Exporting Graph Data... I 12:56:19 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Thom\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CD-DVDW_TS-H652L_0603_JANUARY-8-2010_12-47_PM_RITEK-S04-66_MAX.ibg I 12:56:19 Export Successfully Completed! E 12:56:19 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:08:31 I 12:56:19 Average Write Rate: 6,189 KB/s (4.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,394 KB/s (6.1x)
mmalves Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I 12:47:48 Destination Device: [1:1:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652L 0603 (F:) (ATA) You can find the latest firmware for your burner here (it's the 0803 one in your case and don't forget to remove any disc from the burner and close the tray before updating then reboot the computer after it's finished). You might also want to burn at 4x or 2.4x to see if you can make it work. As for the Verbatim blanks they only use MKM dye on their DVD+R DL blanks.
fishbulb Posted January 8, 2010 Author Posted January 8, 2010 Thanks for that link to the firmware. I've been trying to find it on samsungodd.com with no luck. I will also try burning at a slower speed. I understand that Verbatim-made discs are considered to be the best by this forum, but how can I tell which discs labelled "Verbatim" were made by Verbatim and not an inferior manufacturer?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 ...but how can I tell which discs labelled "Verbatim" were made by Verbatim and not an inferior manufacturer? like this... As for the Verbatim blanks they only use MKM dye on their DVD+R DL blanks.
fishbulb Posted January 8, 2010 Author Posted January 8, 2010 ...but how can I tell which discs labelled "Verbatim" were made by Verbatim and not an inferior manufacturer? like this... As for the Verbatim blanks they only use MKM dye on their DVD+R DL blanks. Okay I guess what you mean is that when Ritek makes a Verbatim disc, they use MKM dye and when they make a Memorex disc they use some inferior dye. Hard to believe the dye makes such a difference. If I'm interpreting it wrong please let me know.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Verbatim is a brand name, nobody 'makes' them. Verbatim only ever use the MKM dye (which is the only decent DL one) on their DL discs. All the other brands use the cheapo dyes (Ritek, CMC, Ricoh etc)
jeff_nz Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Okay I guess what you mean is that when Ritek makes a Verbatim disc, they use MKM dye and when they..... [ ] Ummm... you've got it all backwards, despite being given the answer twice already. Your question is specifically about double layer blanks and all Verbatim double layer DVD's are manufactured by MKM (Mitsubishi Kagaku Media), hence the MKM media ID... nothing to do with Ritek at all. . Edit: ooops, too slow... Edited January 8, 2010 by jeff_nz
fishbulb Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Verbatim is a brand name, nobody 'makes' them. Verbatim only ever use the MKM dye (which is the only decent DL one) on their DL discs. All the other brands use the cheapo dyes (Ritek, CMC, Ricoh etc) Yes, Verbatim is a brand owned by Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation. I don't entirely know what you mean by 'nobody makes them'. Mitsubishi makes it's own Verbatim discs, and they also contract manufacture to companies such as Ritek, CMC, and Moser Baer, according to what I have found out so far. It's possible that these companies do not make DL discs for Verbatim as I haven't found any info specifically about DL disc manufacture being contracted out. I hope that's the case because I now realize there's no way to determine who made the disc until you get it into your drive. Best I could do is check the 'Made in ...." on the label. E.g. Verbatim discs from India are probably made by Moser Baer. Edited January 9, 2010 by fishbulb
jeff_nz Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 ... I now realize there's no way to determine who made the disc until you get it into your drive. Well, with respect to Verbatim CD-R's and single layer DVD's, if it has AZO on the packaging then you'll be getting MCC media code, if it doesn't have AZO on the packaging then it's one of the others... Or you could buy from a reputable online retailer that lists the MID.
Cynthia Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I have some Verbatims +R Advanced AZO+ and that is Taiyo Yuden media code.
fishbulb Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 Well I've never had a problem with Memorex DVD+R SL's, which I found out today were made by Ricoh (my current batch was, at least). I could try a reputable online retailer, though I checked 3 retailers so far and haven't seen a MID. I don't know which ones are reputable since I don't buy stuff online. ...then you'll be getting MCC media code If the MCC code you're talking about is that important (meaning it was made to MCC's specs, with their proprietary dye and everything), I think most Verbatims will be okay. I found this website where a lot of information is posted about burning specs and people there are talking about Verbatim discs manufactured by companies such as Falcon Technologies, Prodisc, and CMC, which all had the MCC code on the disc.
Cynthia Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 It's not just the MCC code that is important, it's also who manufactures them. Different license plants have higher/lower quality on the final DVDs. IMHO the price relation shows the quality on the various brands. It's also very dependent on the burner you use. Some burners can do pretty good burns with cheap media.
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