Ron Burgundy Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 hello! as already mentioned in the topic title, imgburn erasing speed is to slow with verbatim bd-re 25gb and tdk bd-re 50 gb. burning works fine with 2x speed. is it a bug or do i have to adjust something in imgburn? pls help thx
Ron Burgundy Posted May 10, 2010 Author Posted May 10, 2010 Post the log please. just made a quick erase, because I dont want to wait another 90 min... thx I 13:27:05 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started! I 13:27:05 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 13:27:05 Total Physical Memory: 8.387.704 KB - Available: 6.750.012 KB I 13:27:05 Initialising SPTI... I 13:27:05 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 13:27:05 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 13:27:05 -> Drive 2 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (O:) (ATA) I 13:27:06 -> Drive 3 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F SB03 (N:) (ATA) I 13:27:06 -> Drive 4 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (Q:) (SCSI) I 13:27:06 Found 1 DVD±RW, 1 DVD±RW/RAM, 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 13:27:15 Operation Started! I 13:27:15 Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 13:27:15 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 13:27:15 Quick Erase: Yes I 13:27:15 Erasing Disc... I 13:27:15 Synchronising Cache... I 13:27:24 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 10, 2010 Posted May 10, 2010 You can access old logs via the help menu, that one is of no use - except it tells me you have the same drive I do. The 'zeroing sectors' part of the full erase will only be quick if you have formatted without spare areas or have turned 'FastWrite' on. This is a drive thing, they automatically verify each 'write' command as they go - thus it takes twice as long to do anything. As you can see below, mine is fine. I 12:57:48 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 12:57:48 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 12:57:48 Total Physical Memory: 3,143,248 KB - Available: 919,188 KB I 12:57:48 Initialising SPTI... I 12:57:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:57:55 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS324 A BLTP (M:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 3 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S 1.03 (R:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 4 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-217F 1.07 (P:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 5 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (N:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 6 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (V:) (SCSI) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 7 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (W:) (SCSI) I 12:57:55 Found 2 DVD±RWs, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs, 2 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 12:58:29 Operation Started! I 12:58:29 Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 12:58:29 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 12:58:29 Quick Erase: No I 12:58:29 Format Properly: Yes I 12:58:29 Format Size: Preferred I 12:58:29 Format With Full Certification: Yes I 12:58:29 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes I 12:58:29 Erasing Disc... I 14:19:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:21:02 I 14:19:32 Operation Started! I 14:19:32 Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 14:19:32 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 14:19:32 Media Sectors: 12,219,392 I 14:19:32 BD-RE FastWrite: No I 14:19:32 Zeroing Sectors... I 15:00:01 Synchronising Cache... I 15:00:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:40:29 - Total Duration: 02:01:31 I 15:00:01 Average Write Rate: 10,061 KB/s (2.2x)
Ron Burgundy Posted May 11, 2010 Author Posted May 11, 2010 You can access old logs via the help menu, that one is of no use - except it tells me you have the same drive I do. The 'zeroing sectors' part of the full erase will only be quick if you have formatted without spare areas or have turned 'FastWrite' on. This is a drive thing, they automatically verify each 'write' command as they go - thus it takes twice as long to do anything. As you can see below, mine is fine. I 12:57:48 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 12:57:48 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 12:57:48 Total Physical Memory: 3,143,248 KB - Available: 919,188 KB I 12:57:48 Initialising SPTI... I 12:57:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:57:55 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS324 A BLTP (M:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 3 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S 1.03 (R:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 4 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-217F 1.07 (P:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 5 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (N:) (ATA) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 6 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (V:) (SCSI) I 12:57:55 -> Drive 7 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (W:) (SCSI) I 12:57:55 Found 2 DVD±RWs, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs, 2 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 12:58:29 Operation Started! I 12:58:29 Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 12:58:29 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 12:58:29 Quick Erase: No I 12:58:29 Format Properly: Yes I 12:58:29 Format Size: Preferred I 12:58:29 Format With Full Certification: Yes I 12:58:29 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes I 12:58:29 Erasing Disc... I 14:19:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:21:02 I 14:19:32 Operation Started! I 14:19:32 Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (O:) (ATA) I 14:19:32 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 14:19:32 Media Sectors: 12,219,392 I 14:19:32 BD-RE FastWrite: No I 14:19:32 Zeroing Sectors... I 15:00:01 Synchronising Cache... I 15:00:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:40:29 - Total Duration: 02:01:31 I 15:00:01 Average Write Rate: 10,061 KB/s (2.2x) hello, i have bought a new sony BD-RE DL and i tried to erase the disc, but after 12 min onyl 6% have been finalised - this would be 200 min for 100% fastwrite is enabled, writing speed is o.k. 2x please find below the log, i have cancelled it after 12 min... thx I 17:45:21 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started! I 17:45:21 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 17:45:21 Total Physical Memory: 8.387.704 KB - Available: 6.447.204 KB I 17:45:21 Initialising SPTI... I 17:45:21 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 17:45:21 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 17:45:21 -> Drive 2 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (O:) (ATA) I 17:45:21 -> Drive 3 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F SB03 (N:) (ATA) I 17:45:21 -> Drive 4 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (Q:) (SCSI) I 17:45:21 Found 1 DVD±RW, 1 DVD±RW/RAM, 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 17:45:48 Operation Started! I 17:45:48 Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 17:45:48 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: MEI-T01-01) (Speeds: 2x) I 17:45:48 Quick Erase: No I 17:45:48 Format Properly: Yes I 17:45:48 Format Size: Preferred I 17:45:48 Format With Full Certification: Yes I 17:45:48 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes I 17:45:48 Erasing Disc...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 11, 2010 Posted May 11, 2010 It's pointless guessing how long things are actually going to take... let it finish and then post a real log. Leave it going whilst you go out and do other stuff, it'll be done when you come back (as mine was). That particular part of the erase process (including the % complete itself) is 100% controlled by the drive. ImgBurn issues a single command and the drive does the rest - 'the rest' being certifying that every sector on the disc is ok (probably by a write -> read operation). Only the 'Zeroing Sectors' part would be slower if spare areas were present or FastWrite was disabled. That's the part where ImgBurn is actually writing all zeroes to all the sectors - which is basically the same as burning a normal image, only it's zeroed sectors instead of real data.
Ron Burgundy Posted May 12, 2010 Author Posted May 12, 2010 It's pointless guessing how long things are actually going to take... let it finish and then post a real log. Leave it going whilst you go out and do other stuff, it'll be done when you come back (as mine was). That particular part of the erase process (including the % complete itself) is 100% controlled by the drive. ImgBurn issues a single command and the drive does the rest - 'the rest' being certifying that every sector on the disc is ok (probably by a write -> read operation). Only the 'Zeroing Sectors' part would be slower if spare areas were present or FastWrite was disabled. That's the part where ImgBurn is actually writing all zeroes to all the sectors - which is basically the same as burning a normal image, only it's zeroed sectors instead of real data. a never ending story... pls find below the log I 14:19:30 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started! I 14:19:30 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 14:19:30 Total Physical Memory: 8.387.704 KB - Available: 6.635.716 KB I 14:19:30 Initialising SPTI... I 14:19:30 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 14:19:30 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 14:19:30 -> Drive 2 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (O:) (ATA) I 14:19:30 -> Drive 3 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F SB03 (N:) (ATA) I 14:19:30 -> Drive 4 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (Q:) (SCSI) I 14:19:30 Found 1 DVD±RW, 1 DVD±RW/RAM, 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 14:19:42 Operation Started! I 14:19:42 Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 14:19:42 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 14:19:42 Quick Erase: No I 14:19:42 Format Properly: Yes I 14:19:42 Format Size: Preferred I 14:19:42 Format With Full Certification: Yes I 14:19:42 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes I 14:19:42 Erasing Disc... I 15:40:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:21:00 I 15:40:43 Operation Started! I 15:40:43 Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (P:) (ATAPI) I 15:40:43 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-00) (Speeds: 2x) I 15:40:43 Media Sectors: 12.219.392 I 15:40:43 BD-RE FastWrite: Yes I 15:40:43 Zeroing Sectors... I 16:21:13 Synchronising Cache... I 16:21:13 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:40:30 - Total Duration: 02:01:31 I 16:21:13 Average Write Rate: 10.057 KB/s (2.2x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 So it's exactly the same as mine then - perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. You only have to format BD-RE discs once, after that you can just keep overwriting them. A quick erase is pointless so don't bother with those on BD-RE unless you're trying to hide (badly!) what was on them - all it does is write zeroes to the first few hundred sectors. You can tell the program to skip the certification and zeroing sectors bits if you want it to format instantly, but then you don't know if the disc is actually 100% ok or not.
Ron Burgundy Posted May 12, 2010 Author Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) So it's exactly the same as mine then - perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. You only have to format BD-RE discs once, after that you can just keep overwriting them. A quick erase is pointless so don't bother with those on BD-RE unless you're trying to hide (badly!) what was on them - all it does is write zeroes to the first few hundred sectors. You can tell the program to skip the certification and zeroing sectors bits if you want it to format instantly, but then you don't know if the disc is actually 100% ok or not. thx very much for your quick reply and clarification... Edited May 12, 2010 by Ron Burgundy
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