ilitws Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Background I ask this question only because everyone tries to avoid wasting a disc. Also as a newbie ImgBurn 2.5.1 user I've read the forum guides as well & also the excellent pdf - ImgBurn Functions.pdf. Query Is setting write speed to AWS a solution which would ensure this type of incident never happens. Is choosing AWS rather than setting a speed a perfect solution which would work every time. I also ask this because I understand Automatic Write Speed (AWS)automatically sets write speed to Max if everything is fine otherwise AWS itself chooses the perfect write speed for that given situation. Is my understanding correct? Does AWS take the burden of guesswork out of the situation?
mmalves Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 You have to configure AWS beforehand, or else it'll just use MAX speed.
ilitws Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 @mmalves Thanks for your kind reply. I had read your enclosure earlier & again re-read it now Background My earlier understanding of what AWS means was wrong I earlier took AWS to mean that if you leave it on AWS ImgBurn would automatically decide the correct speed. My understanding was totally wrong My interpretation of what AWS means has now been corrected Automatic Writing Speed never meant ImgBurn 2.5.1 decides which speed is most appropriate. Rather the user has to decide that. Once the user decides that & sets it there onwards ImgBurn 2.5.1 would use only that same speed to write Query How should a user choose the correct write speed? How does one get it right the first time? The second time onwards can one choose the speed by referring to the prior log if one is using the same type of DVD? I am providing 2 bits of information to you One bit of information - Upon inserting my DVD - "DVD-R 120min/4.7GB AccuCORE 16x/1x" my screen says SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A YYS3 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty State of Last Session: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,297,888 Free Space: 4,706,074,624 bytes Free Time: 510:40:38 (MM:SS:FF) Next Writable Address: 0 Supported Write Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: SONY16D1 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: 0@P-!-00 Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,495,103 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Performance (Write Speed): Descriptor 1... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 0 (0x00000000) -> RS: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) - WS: 8,310 KB/s (6x) Descriptor 2... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 0 (0x00000000) -> RS: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) - WS: 11,080 KB/s (8x) Descriptor 3... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 0 (0x00000000) -> RS: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) - WS: 16,620 KB/s (12x) Descriptor 4... -> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00 -> EL: 0 (0x00000000) -> RS: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) - WS: 22,160 KB/s (16x) Another bit of information is based upon a log (I saved) of a successful write I had done using the same DVD but when I did not understand the correct meaning of AWS. So my setting was AWS which obviously meant (Max) I 20:48:08 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started! I 20:48:08 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:48:08 Total Physical Memory: 514,792 KB - Available: 200,660 KB W 20:48:08 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 20:48:08 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:48:08 Initialising SPTI... I 20:48:08 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:48:08 -> Drive 1 - Info: SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A YYS3 (F:) (ATA) I 20:48:08 Found 1 DVD±RW! I 20:49:29 Operation Started! I 20:49:29 Building Image Tree... I 20:49:29 Checking Directory Depth... I 20:49:29 Calculating Totals... I 20:49:29 Preparing Image... I 20:49:29 Checking Path Length... I 20:49:30 Contents: 8 Files, 2 Folders I 20:49:30 Content Type: DVD Video I 20:49:30 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 20:49:30 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:49:30 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 20:49:30 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 20:49:30 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 20:49:30 TV System: PAL I 20:49:30 Size: 4,125,515,776 bytes I 20:49:30 Sectors: 2,014,412 I 20:49:30 Image Size: 4,126,146,560 bytes I 20:49:30 Image Sectors: 2,014,720 I 20:49:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 20:55:40 Operation Started! I 20:55:40 Building Image Tree... I 20:55:40 Checking Directory Depth... I 20:55:40 Calculating Totals... I 20:55:40 Preparing Image... I 20:55:41 Checking Path Length... I 20:55:41 Contents: 8 Files, 2 Folders I 20:55:41 Content Type: DVD Video I 20:55:41 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 20:55:41 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:55:41 Volume Label: JAMES_BOND__LICENSE_TO_KILL_1989 I 20:55:41 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 20:55:41 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 20:55:41 TV System: PAL I 20:55:41 Size: 4,125,515,776 bytes I 20:55:41 Sectors: 2,014,412 I 20:55:41 Image Size: 4,126,146,560 bytes I 20:55:41 Image Sectors: 2,014,720 I 20:56:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:21 I 20:56:02 Operation Started! I 20:56:02 Image Contents: 8 Files, 2 Folders I 20:56:02 Image Sectors: 2,014,720 (MODE1/2048) I 20:56:02 Image Size: 4,126,146,560 bytes I 20:56:02 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD-R/RW (Media Capacity: 2,297,888) I 20:56:02 Image Volume Identifier: JAMES_BOND__LICENSE_TO_KILL_1989 I 20:56:02 Image Volume Set Identifier: 3CAEA6F4001EBDF2 I 20:56:02 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 20:56:02 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 20:56:02 Image File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:56:02 Destination File: E:\James Bond - Licence To Kill [1989].iso I 20:56:02 Destination Free Space: 10,086,219,776 Bytes (9,849,824 KB) (9,618 MB) (9 GB) I 20:56:02 Destination File System: FAT32 I 20:56:02 File Splitting: Auto I 20:56:02 Writing Image... I 21:01:28 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:26 I 21:01:28 Average Write Rate: 12,360 KB/s (8.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 23,463 KB/s (16.9x) I 21:37:43 Operation Started! I 21:37:43 Source File: E:\James Bond - Licence To Kill [1989].iso I 21:37:43 Source File Sectors: 2,014,720 (MODE1/2048) I 21:37:43 Source File Size: 4,126,146,560 bytes I 21:37:43 Source File Volume Identifier: JAMES_BOND__LICENSE_TO_KILL_1989 I 21:37:43 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3CAEA6F4001EBDF2 I 21:37:43 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 21:37:43 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 21:37:44 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:37:44 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A YYS3 (F:) (ATA) I 21:37:44 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 21:37:44 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 21:37:44 Write Mode: DVD I 21:37:44 Write Type: DAO I 21:37:44 Write Speed: MAX I 21:37:44 Link Size: Auto I 21:37:44 Lock Volume: Yes I 21:37:44 Test Mode: No I 21:37:44 OPC: No I 21:37:44 BURN-Proof: Disabled W 21:37:44 Write Speed Miscompare! - MODE SENSE: 22,160 KB/s (16x), GET PERFORMANCE: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) I 21:37:44 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,864 KB/s (6.6x) I 21:37:44 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 21:37:45 Writing LeadIn... I 21:38:22 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2014719) I 21:38:22 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2014719) I 22:28:29 Synchronising Cache... I 22:28:48 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:28:49 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ramesh\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\SONY_DVD_RW_DW-Q30A_YYS3_FRIDAY-MAY-14-2010_9-37_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg I 22:28:49 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:28:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:51:04 I 22:28:49 Average Write Rate: 1,340 KB/s (1.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2,231 KB/s (1.6x) I 22:28:49 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:28:59 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:29:08 Device Ready! I 22:29:12 Operation Started! I 22:29:12 Source Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A YYS3 (F:) (ATA) I 22:29:12 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: SONY16D1) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 22:29:12 Image File: E:\James Bond - Licence To Kill [1989].iso I 22:29:12 Image File Sectors: 2,014,720 (MODE1/2048) I 22:29:12 Image File Size: 4,126,146,560 bytes I 22:29:12 Image File Volume Identifier: JAMES_BOND__LICENSE_TO_KILL_1989 I 22:29:12 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 3CAEA6F4001EBDF2 I 22:29:12 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 22:29:12 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 22:29:12 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 22:29:12 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 22:29:12 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2014719) I 22:29:12 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2014719) I 22:57:11 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:57:11 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ramesh\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\SONY_DVD_RW_DW-Q30A_YYS3_FRIDAY-MAY-14-2010_9-37_PM_SONY16D1_MAX.ibg I 22:57:11 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:57:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:58 I 22:57:11 Average Verify Rate: 2,401 KB/s (1.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 2,747 KB/s (2.0x) Based upon the log of a successfully written dvd & the ImgBurn write screen is this okay? Now onwards I can build ISO at 8.9x 8x Now onwards I can write DVD at 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x 1x
LIGHTNING UK! Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Why did you hijack spearheads thread with this? Please don't do that.
ilitws Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 Why did you hijack spearheads thread with this? Please don't do that. I am terribly sorry if I have done that. I never meant to do so. I asked in that thread itself only for sake of continuity. I now understand the meaning of hijack & will try to ask in separate threads only. Grateful for your kind reply
mmalves Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 With most new-ish burners you get best quality burns at 8x and 12x, and when using high quality media such as Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden blanks then 16x is also good. It seems your burner is working in PIO mode, which is why it doesn't get above 2x, so have a look here on how to solve that problem. Also look for the latest storage drivers for your system (this website might help). On another note there's newer firmware available for your burner.
ilitws Posted May 23, 2010 Author Posted May 23, 2010 @mmalves & @LIGHTNING UK! Admirable guidance. Heartfelt thanks! @LIGHTNING UK! What I have now done My Device Manager was already DMA enabled. I'll check to see that BIOS setting is on auto rather than DMA or PIO. Will do it upon my next logon. I'll keep my fingers (& toes) crossed as I am entering BIOS for the first time. But then I've never ever been squeamish & am careful Will download the latest firmware for Sony DW-Q30A After I finish using my blank DVD's in the future I'll go for MCC, TY and YUDEN for single layer DVD-R discs Query Regarding 1 Thing I Now Need To Do I will download the latest firmware for my burner for Sony DW-Q30A YYS7_WIN.EXE , Date 26th July 2006, File Size 650KB. Which is the correct folder to install this firmware? I do not have a seperate DVD player. I always play things on my PC
mmalves Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 The firmware is stored on a memory chip on the drive itself, so you just run the updater and it'll update the firmware on the burner.
ilitws Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 @mmalves Thanks to you, updating firmware took up my write speed from 1x to 6x. A huge time saver!
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