Bad Media or Deeper Problems

[gatorfan9377]

I've been using DVD Decrypter (and now ImgBurn) for quite some time now. I usually burn to Verbatim DVD-R (MCC 02RG20) and they are usually great, but it seems that I've received a bad batch or there are other issues going on with my pc that are causing a ton of coasters. A lot I am pretty sure were bad media but a couple result in a failure and then the DVD-+RW Drive can no longer be used and I have to re-boot the computer to regain the ability to use it. So I am wondering if there is more going on here. My drive is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.18 (ATA). Here are two different log files for two different failures that both led to the drive being unsuable until a reboot:

 

FAILURE#1

 

I 12:04:14 Operation Started!

I 12:04:14 Source File: F:\ELIZABETHTOWN_169.ISO

I 12:04:14 Source File Sectors: 2,289,665 (MODE1/2048)

I 12:04:14 Source File Size: 4,689,233,920 bytes

I 12:04:14 Source File Volume Identifier: ELIZABETHTOWN_169

I 12:04:14 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 12:04:14 Source File UDF Revision: 1.02

I 12:04:14 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.18 (I:) (ATA)

I 12:04:14 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)

I 12:04:14 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 12:04:14 Write Mode: DVD

I 12:04:14 Write Type: DAO

I 12:04:14 Write Speed: MAX

I 12:04:14 Link Size: Auto

I 12:04:14 Test Mode: No

I 12:04:14 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 12:04:14 Filling Buffer...

I 12:04:15 Writing LeadIn...

I 12:04:34 Writing Image...

I 12:11:04 Synchronising Cache...

W 12:11:13 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - Write Error

E 12:11:17 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: No Additional Sense Information

 

 

FAILURE#2

 

I 12:37:54 ImgBurn Version 1.3.0.0 started!

I 12:37:54 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 12:37:54 Initialising SPTI...

I 12:37:54 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 12:37:55 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 2 DVD?RWs!

I 12:38:32 Operation Started!

I 12:38:32 Source File: F:\KING_KONG.ISO

I 12:38:32 Source File Sectors: 2,284,076 (MODE1/2048)

I 12:38:32 Source File Size: 4,677,787,648 bytes

I 12:38:32 Source File Volume Identifier: KING_KONG

I 12:38:32 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 12:38:32 Source File UDF Revision: 1.02

I 12:38:32 Destination Device: [3:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.18 (I:) (ATA)

I 12:38:32 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)

I 12:38:32 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496

I 12:38:32 Write Mode: DVD

I 12:38:32 Write Type: DAO

I 12:38:32 Write Speed: MAX

I 12:38:32 Link Size: Auto

I 12:38:32 Test Mode: No

I 12:38:32 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 12:38:32 Filling Buffer...

I 12:38:36 Writing LeadIn...

I 12:38:55 Writing Image...

I 12:47:07 Synchronising Cache...

W 12:47:14 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - Write Error

 

 

Also, I am running Windows XP Home Edition SP2 on an AMD Athlon 64 3400+ with 1GB Ram. I hope this is enough information and I appreciate any help with this. Thanks

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Ignore the bit where it says 'Reason: No additional sense information', that's a bug in the program.

 

The real error is this one:

 

W 12:47:14 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - Write Error.

 

and that bit in bold should be copied to where it say the 'no additional sense information' stuff.

 

So.... yes you're getting write errors as the drive tries to finalise the disc. That's not a good sign.

[gatorfan9377]

Ignore the bit where it says 'Reason: No additional sense information', that's a bug in the program.

 

The real error is this one:

 

W 12:47:14 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - Write Error.

 

and that bit in bold should be copied to where it say the 'no additional sense information' stuff.

 

So.... yes you're getting write errors as the drive tries to finalise the disc. That's not a good sign.

 

It is not a good sign meaning the media is bad or that my drive is going bad? I've been getting a lot of "invalid address" errors which indicates bad media, and from what you said I am thinking that a write error is also due to bad media. I just want to make sure that we are both in agreement that it is bad media or if you feel the drive may be going bad? Thanks for the help and the quick reply.

[Shamus_McFartfinger]

I 12:11:04 Synchronising Cache...

W 12:11:13 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - Write Error

E 12:11:17 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: No Additional Sense Information

 

This looks awfully damned familiar. I had the same thing happen the other day with 3 different drives after changing media to Verbatim DL -R. In my case, definitely a media problem. I switched back to Ritek G05s and the problem dissapeared. Here's a log if you're interested.

 

 

I 13:38:23 ImgBurn Version 1.3.0.9 Beta started!

I 13:38:23 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4)

I 13:38:23 Initialising SPTI...

I 13:38:23 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 13:38:23 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD?RW!

I 13:39:29 Operation Started!

I 13:39:29 Building Image Tree...

I 13:39:29 Calculating Totals...

I 13:39:29 Preparing Image...

I 13:39:29 Image Size: 5,861,380,096 bytes

I 13:39:29 Image Sectors: 2,862,002

I 13:39:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:40:17 Operation Started!

I 13:40:17 Building Image Tree...

I 13:40:18 Calculating Totals...

I 13:40:18 Preparing Image...

I 13:40:18 Image Size: 7,400,173,568 bytes

I 13:40:18 Image Sectors: 3,613,366

I 13:40:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:41:55 Operation Started!

I 13:41:55 Building Image Tree...

I 13:41:55 Calculating Totals...

I 13:41:55 Preparing Image...

I 13:41:55 Image Size: 13,234,046,976 bytes

I 13:41:55 Image Sectors: 6,461,937

I 13:41:55 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:42:10 Operation Started!

I 13:42:10 Building Image Tree...

I 13:42:10 Calculating Totals...

I 13:42:10 Preparing Image...

I 13:42:10 Image Size: 11,863,298,048 bytes

I 13:42:10 Image Sectors: 5,792,626

I 13:42:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:42:22 Operation Started!

I 13:42:22 Building Image Tree...

I 13:42:22 Calculating Totals...

I 13:42:22 Preparing Image...

I 13:42:22 Image Size: 9,240,295,424 bytes

I 13:42:22 Image Sectors: 4,511,863

I 13:42:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:42:28 Operation Started!

I 13:42:28 Building Image Tree...

I 13:42:28 Calculating Totals...

I 13:42:28 Preparing Image...

I 13:42:28 Image Size: 8,626,487,296 bytes

I 13:42:28 Image Sectors: 4,212,152

I 13:42:28 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:42:30 Operation Started!

I 13:42:30 Building Image Tree...

I 13:42:31 Calculating Totals...

I 13:42:31 Preparing Image...

I 13:42:31 Image Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:42:31 Image Sectors: 4,093,357

I 13:42:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00

I 13:42:51 Operation Started!

I 13:42:51 Building Image Tree...

I 13:42:51 Calculating Totals...

I 13:42:51 Preparing Image...

I 13:42:51 Image Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:42:51 Image Sectors: 4,093,357

I 13:43:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:08

I 13:43:00 Operation Started!

I 13:43:00 Image Contents: 30 Files, 0 Folders

I 13:43:00 Image Sectors: 4,093,357

I 13:43:00 Image Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:43:00 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! ? 2006 LIGHTNING UK!

I 13:43:00 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 13:43:00 Image File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 13:43:00 Destination File: K:\my.iso

I 13:43:00 File Splitting: Auto

I 13:43:00 Writing Image...

I 13:48:51 Image MD5: 096aef930f6758942dd183dab5d6c8c1

I 13:48:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:50

I 13:48:51 Average Write Rate: 23,390 KB/s (16.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 31,586 KB/s (22.8x)

I 13:49:39 Operation Started!

I 13:49:39 Source File: K:\my.MDS

I 13:49:39 Source File Sectors: 4,093,357 (MODE1/2048)

I 13:49:39 Source File Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:49:39 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! ? 2006 LIGHTNING UK!

I 13:49:39 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 13:49:39 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 13:49:39 Destination Device: [2:1:0]PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.58 (F:) (ATA)

I 13:49:39 Destination Media Type: DVD-R DL (Disc ID: MKM 01RD30) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x)

I 13:49:39 Destination Media Sectors: 4,171,712

I 13:49:39 Write Mode: DVD

I 13:49:39 Write Type: DAO

I 13:49:39 Write Speed: MAX

I 13:49:39 Link Size: Auto

I 13:49:39 Test Mode: No

I 13:49:39 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 13:49:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,046,688

I 13:49:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary

E 13:49:55 Cannot set the layer break position when burning DVD-R DL media in DAO mode.

E 13:49:57 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:16

I 13:49:57 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

I 13:52:35 Operation Started!

I 13:52:35 Source File: K:\my.MDS

I 13:52:35 Source File Sectors: 4,093,357 (MODE1/2048)

I 13:52:35 Source File Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:52:35 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! ? 2006 LIGHTNING UK!

I 13:52:35 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 13:52:35 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 13:52:35 Destination Device: [2:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.58 (F:) (ATA)

I 13:52:35 Destination Media Type: DVD-R DL (Disc ID: MKM 01RD30) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x)

I 13:52:35 Destination Media Sectors: 4,171,712

I 13:52:35 Write Mode: DVD

I 13:52:35 Write Type: DAO

I 13:52:35 Write Speed: MAX

I 13:52:35 Link Size: Auto

I 13:52:35 Test Mode: No

I 13:52:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 13:52:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,046,688

I 13:52:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary

E 13:52:48 Cannot set the layer break position when burning DVD-R DL media in DAO mode.

E 13:52:51 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:12

I 13:52:51 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

I 13:54:00 Operation Started!

I 13:54:00 Source File: K:\my.MDS

I 13:54:00 Source File Sectors: 4,093,357 (MODE1/2048)

I 13:54:00 Source File Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 13:54:00 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! ? 2006 LIGHTNING UK!

I 13:54:00 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 13:54:00 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 13:54:00 Destination Device: [2:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.58 (F:) (ATA)

I 13:54:00 Destination Media Type: DVD-R DL (Disc ID: MKM 01RD30) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x)

I 13:54:00 Destination Media Sectors: 4,171,712

I 13:54:00 Write Mode: DVD

I 13:54:00 Write Type: DAO

I 13:54:00 Write Speed: MAX

I 13:54:00 Link Size: Auto

I 13:54:00 Test Mode: No

I 13:54:00 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 13:54:00 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,046,688

I 13:54:00 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary

W 13:54:01 Cannot set the layer break position when burning DVD-R DL media in DAO mode.

I 13:54:01 Filling Buffer...

I 13:54:02 Writing LeadIn...

I 13:54:17 Writing Image...

I 13:54:17 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2092895)

I 14:03:04 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2092896 - 4093356)

I 14:11:55 Synchronising Cache...

W 14:12:17 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (1/2) - Write Error

I 14:14:44 Image MD5: 096aef930f6758942dd183dab5d6c8c1

I 14:14:44 Exporting Graph Data...

I 14:14:44 Graph Data File: C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-109_1.58_MONDAY-12-JUNE-2006_1-54_PM_MKM_01RD30_MAX.ibg

I 14:14:44 Export Successfully Completed!

I 14:14:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:20:44

I 14:14:44 Average Write Rate: 7,737 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,375 KB/s (6.0x)

I 14:14:44 Cycling Tray before Verify...

I 14:15:12 Device Ready!

I 14:15:12 Operation Started!

I 14:15:12 Source Device: [2:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.58 (F:) (ATA)

I 14:15:12 Source Media Type: DVD-R DL (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MKM 01RD30) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x)

I 14:15:12 Image File: K:\my.MDS

I 14:15:12 Image File Sectors: 4,093,357 (MODE1/2048)

I 14:15:12 Image File Size: 8,383,195,136 bytes

I 14:15:12 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! ? 2006 LIGHTNING UK!

I 14:15:12 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn

I 14:15:12 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 14:15:12 Verifying Sectors...

E 14:19:13 Failed to read Sector 0 - No Additional Sense Information

E 14:19:13 Failed to Verify Sectors!

I 14:19:16 Exporting Graph Data...

I 14:19:16 Graph Data File: C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-109_1.58_MONDAY-12-JUNE-2006_1-54_PM_MKM_01RD30_MAX.ibg

I 14:19:16 Export Successfully Completed!

E 14:19:16 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:01

I 14:19:16 Average Verify Rate: N/A - Maximum Verify Rate: N/A

[gatorfan9377]

This looks awfully damned familiar. I had the same thing happen the other day with 3 different drives after changing media to Verbatim DL -R. In my case, definitely a media problem. I switched back to Ritek G05s and the problem dissapeared. Here's a log if you're interested.

 

 

Well, I'd rather have it be bad media than a bad drive or some other PC issues. It sucks though. I've been using this media for months now and when they're good I have hardly any coasters if at all. Lately though, when they've been bad it's been the whole dang pack. I have had 35% fail (17 of 48 total burned). Even as I write this ImgBurn is stuck at 0% and I hit 'cancel' about 10 minutes ago or more, which is also a problem I've had time to time with this media. It can usually only be corrected by rebooting. Verbatim said I could send in all the failures and they'd test them and replace them if they're defective. Hopefully I'll get some replacements, but I guess I should be looking into purchasing a different brand media in the near future. I still have two more 50 packs of these left. I can only hope they don't turn out like the first one.

Edited June 14, 2006 by gatorfan9377

[chewy]

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/support/...html#fdvdwriter

[gatorfan9377]

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/support/...html#fdvdwriter

 

Thanks,

 

After the first post I made I thought to check for firmware updates and did update to 1.20, but it won't do much for the sorry batch of media I received.

[cornholio7]

i suppose it wouldnt hurt just to check your dma