Zeroing sectors turns discs into coasters

[jab8356]

I bought a new Verbatim BD-RE, took it fresh out of the package, put it in my blu-ray burner and told Imgburn to burn a copy of a disc from a saved ISO file. Before burning the ISO, Imgburn told me the brand new disc needed to be formated, I said OK. Came back a while later, it had finished the format and started a zero sector operation that I've only seen once before...it also resulted in the following problem. After zero sector completed, the ISO image was burned successfully. I took the disc out and put it in my BD-ROM drive and it shows nothing on the disc. I put the disc in my stand alone blu-ray player and got INVALID on the front of the player. This happened to one other disc, fresh out of the package, but this other disc was a DL BD-RE. I've had other discs come fresh out of the package and not require this zero sector operation. I don't know why it has done this to me twice now. No matter if I try to erase or re-format the disc, burning an ISO image to it results in the disc ONLY being able to be read/played in the drive that actually burned the disc. It won't even load in any other Blu-ray reading device. Is there anything I can do to make this disc back to the condition it was in when it came out of the package? I've tried burning other stuff to it with a different program all together and the disc is still only readable in the drive that burned it and no where else. Here is the log file from the second disc that this happened to when it did this...

 

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I 17:23:46 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!

I 17:23:46 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 17:23:46 Total Physical Memory: 3,339,584 KB - Available: 2,620,280 KB

W 17:23:46 Drive G:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

W 17:23:46 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 17:23:46 Initialising SPTI...

I 17:23:46 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 17:23:46 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH08LS20 2.00 (E:) (ATA)

I 17:23:46 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE UH10LS20 1.00 (D:) (ATA)

I 17:23:46 Found 1 BD-ROM/DVD±RW and 1 BD-RE!

I 17:23:59 Operation Started!

I 17:23:59 Device: [3:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH08LS20 2.00 (E:) (ATA)

I 17:23:59 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-000) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 17:23:59 Quick Erase: No

I 17:23:59 Format Properly: Yes

I 17:23:59 Format Size: Preferred

I 17:23:59 Format With Full Certification: Yes

I 17:23:59 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes

I 17:23:59 Erasing Disc...

I 18:36:24 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:12:25

I 18:36:24 Operation Started!

I 18:36:24 Device: [3:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH08LS20 2.00 (E:) (ATA)

I 18:36:24 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-000) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 18:36:24 Media Sectors: 12,219,392

I 18:36:24 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 18:36:24 Zeroing Sectors...

I 19:16:51 Synchronising Cache...

I 19:16:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:40:27 - Total Duration: 01:52:52

I 19:16:51 Average Write Rate: 10,069 KB/s (2.2x)

I 19:16:52 Operation Started!

I 19:16:52 Source File: O:\Disc Images\DVD\Danielle Steel Movies\Safe Harbour.iso

I 19:16:52 Source File Sectors: 2,124,786 (MODE1/2048)

I 19:16:52 Source File Size: 4,351,561,728 bytes

I 19:16:52 Source File Volume Identifier: SAFE_HARBOUR

I 19:16:52 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 371b5d17

I 19:16:52 Source File Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab

I 19:16:52 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 19:16:52 Destination Device: [3:1:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH08LS20 2.00 (E:) (ATA)

I 19:16:52 Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM0-000) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 19:16:52 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392

I 19:16:52 Write Mode: BD

I 19:16:52 Write Type: DAO

I 19:16:52 Write Speed: MAX

I 19:16:52 BD-RE FastWrite: No

I 19:16:52 Link Size: Auto

I 19:16:52 Lock Volume: Yes

I 19:16:52 Test Mode: No

I 19:16:52 OPC: No

I 19:16:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 19:16:52 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 10,338 KB/s (2.4x)

I 19:16:52 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)

I 19:16:54 Writing LeadIn...

I 19:16:54 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2124785)

I 19:16:54 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2124785)

I 19:23:56 Synchronising Cache...

I 19:24:01 Exporting Graph Data...

I 19:24:01 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Jerry\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH08LS20_2.00_WEDNESDAY-JANUARY-19-2011_7-16_PM_VERBAT-IM0-000_MAX.ibg

I 19:24:01 Export Successfully Completed!

I 19:24:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:04

I 19:24:01 Average Write Rate: 10,093 KB/s (2.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,423 KB/s (2.3x)

I 19:24:23 Close Request Acknowledged

I 19:24:23 Closing Down...

I 19:24:23 Shutting down SPTI...

I 19:24:23 ImgBurn closed!

 

 

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[Cynthia]

I 19:16:52 Source File: O:\Disc Images\DVD\Danielle Steel Movies\Safe Harbour.iso

I 19:16:52 Source File Sectors: 2,124,786 (MODE1/2048)

I 19:16:52 Source File Size: 4,351,561,728 bytes

Sure it's in BD Video format and not DVD Video format that ISO you are using as source? To me it looks like a typical DVD sized movie ISO.

 

What type/name of files do you see when you browse the burned disc?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

'Zeroing Sectors' is not the problem here, I can assure you of that.

[jab8356]

I 19:16:52 Source File: O:\Disc Images\DVD\Danielle Steel Movies\Safe Harbour.iso

I 19:16:52 Source File Sectors: 2,124,786 (MODE1/2048)

I 19:16:52 Source File Size: 4,351,561,728 bytes

Sure it's in BD Video format and not DVD Video format that ISO you are using as source? To me it looks like a typical DVD sized movie ISO.

 

What type/name of files do you see when you browse the burned disc?

 

It is a DVD source that I am burning to a BD-RE. I am backing up all my DVD's to ISO files and to test them, I burn them back to a BD-RE (because dual layer DVD-RW's don't exist) and watch them to ensure I have a quality backup.

[Cynthia]

Sure that your player can play a DVD Video format on a Blu-ray disc? It might want/expect it in Blu-ray Video format.

[jab8356]

Sure that your player can play a DVD Video format on a Blu-ray disc? It might want/expect it in Blu-ray Video format.

 

Yes, I have watched a lot of my DVD copies on a BD-RE.

[jab8356]

'Zeroing Sectors' is not the problem here, I can assure you of that.

 

Do you have any clue as to why the discs that have been "zeroed" are only readable by the drive that burned them and no where else?

[ianymaty]

What model of player you have? Did you searched for an update firmware for your player?

 

Maybe there is one out which improve media compatibility.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

By default, all discs that are formatted by ImgBurn are zeroed.

 

Zeroing is the same as normal burning, except the 'data' I send to the drive is just a bunch of zeros. Other than that, there's no difference.

 

If you have new discs that ImgBurn doesn't have to format, they muse be pre-formatted and probably have 'spare areas' enabled. By default, ImgBurn formats with spare areas disabled so that the entire size of the disc is available for use.

 

So go into the settings and turn that option off (it's on the 'Write' tabs somewhere). Then do another Full erase on the problem discs and see if they start working too.

 

If they do, you'll know what the problem is... your players only seem to like BD-RE with spare areas enabled.

[jab8356]

My blu-ray player has the latest firmware. It is a Sony BDP-N460. The problem is not only with that player, but also with a LG BD-ROM/DVD writer drive in the same machine as the Blu-ray burner. Neither the player or the BD-ROM will read the discs after being zeroed. I did get one of the discs working again though, by burning a video project to it created in Arcsoft's Total Media Studio. Once I burned that, the blu-ray player and BD-ROM drive read the disc. Then I used Imgburn to re-burn and ISO image to it and it plays fine.

[jab8356]

By default, all discs that are formatted by ImgBurn are zeroed.

 

Zeroing is the same as normal burning, except the 'data' I send to the drive is just a bunch of zeros. Other than that, there's no difference.

 

If you have new discs that ImgBurn doesn't have to format, they muse be pre-formatted and probably have 'spare areas' enabled. By default, ImgBurn formats with spare areas disabled so that the entire size of the disc is available for use.

 

So go into the settings and turn that option off (it's on the 'Write' tabs somewhere). Then do another Full erase on the problem discs and see if they start working too.

 

If they do, you'll know what the problem is... your players only seem to like BD-RE with spare areas enabled.

 

I'll try changing the settings like you suggest, but I don't see where in Imgburn to just erase a disc. I'm not real savy as far as Imgburn goes. I use the EZ-Mode picker screen to do what I need with it.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

When you're in Write mode (write image file to disc), there's a little button under the drive selection drop down box (to the left).

 

Or, when in Write mode, click Tools -> Drive -> Erase -> Full

 

or when in Write mode, right click the drive selection drop down box and click Erase -> Full.

[jab8356]

When you're in Write mode (write image file to disc), there's a little button under the drive selection drop down box (to the left).

 

Or, when in Write mode, click Tools -> Drive -> Erase -> Full

 

or when in Write mode, right click the drive selection drop down box and click Erase -> Full.

 

Thanks for your help, I've updated the setting you suggested and am doing a full erase now on the one remaining disk that still would not read.

[jab8356]

When you're in Write mode (write image file to disc), there's a little button under the drive selection drop down box (to the left).

 

Or, when in Write mode, click Tools -> Drive -> Erase -> Full

 

or when in Write mode, right click the drive selection drop down box and click Erase -> Full.

 

Thanks for your help, I've updated the setting you suggested and am doing a full erase now on the one remaining disk that still would not read.

 

That did it, the disk plays now. Thanks again!