tywald Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Hey, I'm trying to burn a DVD+R and having DVD-rom as booktype but after the burn my drive can't read it. After the burn this is the info I get: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.Y6 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 1 754 832 Size: 3 593 895 936 bytes Time: 389:59:57 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 1754831) -> LeadOut (LBA: 1754832) Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196 608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2 491 711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Performance (Write Speed): Descriptor 1... -> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00 -> EL: 1754832 (0x001AC6D0) -> RS: 6 925 KB/s (5x) - WS: 5 540 KB/s (4x) Descriptor 2... -> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00 -> EL: 1754832 (0x001AC6D0) -> RS: 11 080 KB/s (8x) - WS: 8 310 KB/s (6x) Descriptor 3... -> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00 -> EL: 1754832 (0x001AC6D0) -> RS: 11 080 KB/s (8x) - WS: 11 080 KB/s (8x) Descriptor 4... -> B0: 0x03; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00 -> EL: 1754832 (0x001AC6D0) -> RS: 16 620 KB/s (12x) - WS: 16 620 KB/s (12x) Descriptor 5... -> B0: 0x03; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00 -> EL: 1754832 (0x001AC6D0) -> RS: 22 160 KB/s (16x) - WS: 22 160 KB/s (16x) ------------- Shouldn't it say DVD-ROM instead of DVD+R ? I have changed the booktype for DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL to DVD-ROM before I burn. Now when I check back after the burn the booktype setting is "NOT active" for DVD+R, before the burn it was active (I double checked before I burned). ------------- This is the log for the recent burn: I 01:22:53 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 01:22:53 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 01:22:53 Total Physical Memory: 3 145 068 KB - Available: 2 506 848 KB W 01:22:53 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 01:22:54 Initialising SPTI... I 01:22:54 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 01:22:54 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (H:) (Virtual) I 01:22:54 -> Drive 2 - Info: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.Y6 (F:) (ATA) I 01:22:54 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 BD-ROM! I 01:35:46 Operation Started! I 01:35:46 Source File: D:\Downloads\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit).iso I 01:35:46 Source File Sectors: 1 754 826 (MODE1/2048) I 01:35:46 Source File Size: 3 593 883 648 bytes I 01:35:46 Source File Volume Identifier: Windows_7_Ultimate_64 I 01:35:46 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 8c8d4000MS UDFBridge I 01:35:46 Source File Application Identifier: OSCDIMG 2.55 (01/01/2005 TM) I 01:35:46 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 01:35:46 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable); UDF (1.50) I 01:35:46 Destination Device: [0:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.Y6 (F:) (ATA) I 01:35:46 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 01:35:46 Destination Media Sectors: 2 295 104 I 01:35:46 Write Mode: DVD I 01:35:46 Write Type: DAO I 01:35:46 Write Speed: 4x I 01:35:46 DVD+R Reserve Track: No I 01:35:46 Link Size: Auto I 01:35:46 Lock Volume: Yes I 01:35:46 Test Mode: No I 01:35:46 OPC: No I 01:35:46 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 01:35:46 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5 540 KB/s (4x) I 01:35:46 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 01:35:46 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 01:35:47 Writing LeadIn... I 01:36:15 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 01:36:15 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 01:46:52 Synchronising Cache... I 01:46:53 Closing Track... I 01:47:05 Finalising Disc... I 01:47:23 Exporting Graph Data... I 01:47:23 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\_NEC_DVD_RW_ND-3550A_1.Y6_DEN-3-JUNI-2011_01-35_RITEK-F16-01_4x.ibg I 01:47:23 Export Successfully Completed! I 01:47:23 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:36 I 01:47:23 Average Write Rate: 5 518 KB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5 750 KB/s (4.2x) -------------------- So, why won't it read as a DVD-ROM? :S Also, I can't verify my burned DVD as I only get I/O errors Though, my drive can read DVD-ROM just fine, as I tried the World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King DVD. It's just that my burns just won't become a DVD-ROM, it's still a DVD+R. Edited June 3, 2011 by tywald
Cynthia Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Hej! You need to apply a modified firmware for single layer discs, if you want to have them book typed. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=12099
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 The 'Physical Format Information (ADIP)' structure will always say DVD+R, it's only 'Physical Format Information (Last Recorded)' that would/should say DVD-ROM. (For some reason, you aren't getting that bit in your disc info text) 'Current Profile' wouldn't normally change to DVD-ROM either.
tywald Posted June 3, 2011 Author Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) In the test above I used the Y6 firmware ( http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/fwinfo/en/3550a/1Y6 ) Which I could change the booktypes but I changing firmware again to make sure. I chose this one: http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/fwinfo/en/3550a/107bt Like before, the DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL are all set to DVD-ROM and are active. Last time after the burn, it changed the DVD+R to "Not active". (I should be good to go right?) Now, I dunno if the verify will work after burning as It didn't before. edit HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally. This was why I've been having those reading/verifying problems for as long as I can remember! After I uninstalled Daemon Tools AND the driver I finally get perfect graphs! Thanks LIGHTNING UK! for the warning in ImgBurn!!!!! from http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=11238 I will try to get rid of the SPTD driver' date=' as I have the warning as well. edit2 SPTD driver gone but problem still persists. I tried to verify but I get I/O errors on like, every sector. [img']http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2088/errrora.jpg[/img] Log: I 03:53:50 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 03:53:50 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 03:53:50 Total Physical Memory: 3 145 068 KB - Available: 2 566 508 KB I 03:53:50 Initialising SPTI... I 03:53:50 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 03:53:50 -> Drive 1 - Info: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 03:53:50 Found 1 DVD±RW! I 04:03:29 Operation Started! I 04:03:29 Source Device: [0:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 04:03:29 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 04:03:29 Image File: D:\Downloads\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit).iso I 04:03:29 Image File Sectors: 1 754 826 (MODE1/2048) I 04:03:29 Image File Size: 3 593 883 648 bytes I 04:03:29 Image File Volume Identifier: Windows_7_Ultimate_64 I 04:03:29 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 8c8d4000MS UDFBridge I 04:03:29 Image File Application Identifier: OSCDIMG 2.55 (01/01/2005 TM) I 04:03:29 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 04:03:29 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable); UDF (1.50) I 04:03:29 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 04:03:29 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 04:03:29 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1754825) W 04:03:35 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 04:04:57 Retrying (1)... W 04:05:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 04:05:13 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 04:05:14 Failed to Read Sector 1 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 04:05:20 Failed to Read Sector 1 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 04:05:22 Failed to Read Sector 2 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error E 04:05:26 Failed to Read Sector 2 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error E 04:05:26 Failed to Verify Sectors! I 04:05:26 Exporting Graph Data... I 04:05:26 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\_NEC_DVD_RW_ND-3550A_1.07_DEN-3-JUNI-2011_04-03_RITEK-F16-01.ibg I 04:05:26 Export Successfully Completed! E 04:05:26 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:01:56 I 04:05:26 Average Verify Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) This was a previous burn, I want to get some more information before I waste another DVD Edited June 3, 2011 by tywald
Cynthia Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Section 4.2.12.4 NEC in this guide explains it a bit more. Basically you shouldn't need to touch those settings with a bitsetting firmware installed. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6392&st=0&p=66444entry66444 Liggy's ND3550 Bitsetting Firmware 1.07 - is this the one you selected? If so, it should change the book type automatically. Also, I can't verify my burned DVD as I only get I/O errors Riteks are a bit of hit and miss.
tywald Posted June 3, 2011 Author Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) I will attempt on my friend's computer, it has no problem reading these DVDs. And it will verify with no problems and if I successfully make one on this one, it should just be ready to use on my computer. Does these bitsettings affect when you boot the computer? As I want to boot from my DVD to start the Windows installation but I haven't been able to. Before I touch anything, I want to confirm if I can change the booktype on this burner. If anyone wonders, yes my friend's computer is a laptop. hp DVD RW AD-7930H ---- Edit I will do one more burn on my computer to see if the new firmware fixed it. I 09:46:37 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 09:46:37 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 09:46:37 Total Physical Memory: 3 145 068 KB - Available: 2 398 912 KB I 09:46:37 Initialising SPTI... I 09:46:37 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 09:46:37 -> Drive 1 - Info: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 09:46:37 Found 1 DVD±RW! I 09:47:18 Operation Started! I 09:47:18 Source File: D:\Downloads\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit).iso I 09:47:18 Source File Sectors: 1 754 826 (MODE1/2048) I 09:47:18 Source File Size: 3 593 883 648 bytes I 09:47:18 Source File Volume Identifier: Windows_7_Ultimate_64 I 09:47:18 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 8c8d4000MS UDFBridge I 09:47:18 Source File Application Identifier: OSCDIMG 2.55 (01/01/2005 TM) I 09:47:18 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 09:47:18 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable); UDF (1.50) I 09:47:18 Destination Device: [0:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 09:47:18 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 09:47:18 Destination Media Sectors: 2 295 104 I 09:47:18 Write Mode: DVD I 09:47:18 Write Type: DAO I 09:47:18 Write Speed: 4x I 09:47:18 DVD+R Reserve Track: No I 09:47:18 Link Size: Auto I 09:47:18 Lock Volume: Yes I 09:47:18 Test Mode: No I 09:47:18 OPC: No I 09:47:18 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 09:47:18 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5 540 KB/s (4x) I 09:47:18 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 09:47:18 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 09:47:19 Writing LeadIn... I 09:47:45 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 09:47:45 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 09:58:20 Synchronising Cache... I 09:58:21 Closing Track... I 09:58:35 Finalising Disc... I 09:58:52 Exporting Graph Data... I 09:58:52 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\_NEC_DVD_RW_ND-3550A_1.07_DEN-3-JUNI-2011_09-47_RITEK-F16-01_4x.ibg I 09:58:52 Export Successfully Completed! I 09:58:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:32 I 09:58:52 Average Write Rate: 5 535 KB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5 776 KB/s (4.2x) I 09:58:52 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 09:59:35 Device Ready! I 10:03:34 Operation Started! I 10:03:34 Source Device: [0:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 10:03:34 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 10:03:34 Image File: D:\Downloads\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit)\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit).iso I 10:03:34 Image File Sectors: 1 754 826 (MODE1/2048) I 10:03:34 Image File Size: 3 593 883 648 bytes I 10:03:34 Image File Volume Identifier: Windows_7_Ultimate_64 I 10:03:34 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 8c8d4000MS UDFBridge I 10:03:34 Image File Application Identifier: OSCDIMG 2.55 (01/01/2005 TM) I 10:03:34 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 10:03:34 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable); UDF (1.50) I 10:03:34 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 10:03:34 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 10:03:34 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1754825) W 10:03:43 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 10:04:07 Failed to Read Sector 0 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error ----------- The verification takes an awful lot of time from "Device Ready!" to operation started. Windows still can't read the disc (can't view its contents, it just appears as a blank CD drive still) When it do starts, I start getting the I/O errors again, and notice it's still bookmarked as DVD+R even though with Liggy's ND3550 Bitsetting Firmware 1.07. And like before, when I go back to Booktype settings, after the burn it changes DVD+R from "Active" to "NOT active". It shouldn't be a difference though I think. I tried with one OPTODISC-OR8-00 that I had left but I get the same errors as I do with RITEK-F16-01. The fun thing is, my friend's computer can read these burned discs just fine! --------------- edit Now I'm going to verify this disc I just burned on my friend's PC. And it seems it is a DVD-ROM from the righthand information. hp DVD RW AD-7930H 2.82 (ATAPI) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 1 754 832 Size: 3 593 895 936 bytes Time: 389:59:57 (MM:SS:FF) TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 1754831) -> LeadOut (LBA: 1754832) Track Information: Session 1... -> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 1754832, LRA: 0) Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196 608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2 491 711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01 Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196 608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1 951 439 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 The "Last Recorded" won't show up on my computer (strange). this is a log from the verification I 10:14:45 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 10:14:45 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 10:14:45 Total Physical Memory: 3 987 312 KB - Available: 2 031 680 KB I 10:14:45 Initialising SPTI... I 10:14:45 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 10:14:45 -> Drive 1 - Info: hp DVD RW AD-7930H 2.82 (E:) (ATAPI) I 10:14:45 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 10:17:56 Operation Started! I 10:17:56 Source Device: [0:1:0] hp DVD RW AD-7930H 2.82 (E:) (ATAPI) I 10:17:56 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-F16-01) (Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 6x; 8x) I 10:17:56 Image File: C:\Users\Desktop\Windows 7 Ultimate (64 Bit).iso I 10:17:56 Image File Sectors: 1 754 826 (MODE1/2048) I 10:17:56 Image File Size: 3 593 883 648 bytes I 10:17:56 Image File Volume Identifier: Windows_7_Ultimate_64 I 10:17:56 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 8c8d4000MS UDFBridge I 10:17:56 Image File Application Identifier: OSCDIMG 2.55 (01/01/2005 TM) I 10:17:56 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 10:17:56 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable); UDF (1.50) I 10:17:56 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 10:17:57 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 10:17:57 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 1754825) I 10:26:07 Exporting Graph Data... I 10:26:07 Graph Data File: C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_DVD_RW_AD-7930H_2.82_DEN-3-JUNI-2011_10-17_RITEK-F16-01.ibg I 10:26:07 Export Successfully Completed! I 10:26:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:10 I 10:26:07 Average Verify Rate: 7 177 KB/s (5.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 10 102 KB/s (7.3x) Notice the bold part. Now it says it's an DVD-ROM, on my computer it struggles to read and when it goes through it still says DVD+R as you can see in the previous log from my computer. Edited June 3, 2011 by tywald
Cynthia Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Perhaps try to set the book type option to Drive - Permanent for +R media (that should stay active even after a reboot). Not sure why you need to book type a Windows installation disc. That's mostly for old DVD players. The burner is pretty old and the 3550 model was not one of the greatest one from NEC. I 09:59:35 Device Ready!I 10:03:34 Operation Started! Not normal time for a burner. Can your burner read the disc your friend burned?
tywald Posted June 3, 2011 Author Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I did check that before I burned, and I did have DVD+R on permanent with DVD-ROM as its setting, but it changes back to temporary after the burn If I'm not burning it doesn't change, even after reboot as you said. It only happens when I burn one disc and later check the setting. We haven't burned yet on his burner, as I dunno if you can change the booktype on his "hp DVD RW AD-7930H" The discs I burned can successfully boot on his PC but not on mine, when It checks if a DVD is in the drive and trying to boot it, it's only a blackscreen with a white underscore "blinking" for a few secs before it skips and goes on to the hard drive and boot Windows. Does changing booktype also fix so you can boot the disc? As I mentioned above I get blackscreen and then it skips to the hard drive as It couldn't boot it, while it boots on other drives. Mine have to be defective, I can't see any other reason. I might just buy a new burner instead of wasting DVDs edit Yeah, I went ahead bought a new burner. A "TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222A" and now it reads all my discs perfectly (so far atleast ) Edited June 3, 2011 by tywald
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 ImgBurn's 'Auto Change Book Type' setting will make the temp setting active and change that temp setting to DVD-ROM. You've never needed to touch any of the book type stuff and doing so isn't going to help you anyway. If the drive is just creating unreadable coasters then you should try with better media - or buy a new drive which you appear to have now done anyway.
tywald Posted June 3, 2011 Author Posted June 3, 2011 Ah yea, I had that "Auto Change" checked. Ironically that my "defective" drive were creating good burns (as it works perfectly on my new drive, no single reading error yet), in that case the media wasn't that bad as it still works. You can close this thread now as I solved the problem with getting a new drive
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