BlizzardUK Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I am getting so fed up with dual layers, even if I use Verbatims they recently always fail verification, at around 6 to 8% regardless of the ISO I have just burnt. I can't find any better dual layers so this is all I can get. I am sure when I used to burn them about a year ago they always were fine, but in the last month, with different batches even, they always seem to fail verification but not at the layer point like you might expect. I use them for archiving so unless I sit through an entire DVD each time after burning then I am never sure if they are still ok even if they failed. I have disabled AnyDVD. Any idea ? Below is one example. I 19:11:27 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 19:11:27 Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600) I 19:11:27 Total Physical Memory: 8,386,096 KB - Available: 4,174,428 KB W 19:11:27 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled! W 19:11:27 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 19:11:27 Initialising SPTI... I 19:11:28 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:11:28 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL07 (L:) (ATA) I 19:11:28 -> Drive 2 - Info: FSDUL NK963KPMV 1.03 (M:) (SCSI) I 19:11:28 -> Drive 3 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE20NU11 CN01 (Q:) (USB) I 19:11:28 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM, 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE! I 19:11:41 Operation Started! I 19:11:41 Source File: H:\ISOs\TV\DVD.iso I 19:11:42 Source File Sectors: 3,945,872 (MODE1/2048) I 19:11:42 Source File Size: 8,081,145,856 bytes I 19:11:42 Source File Volume Identifier: PRJ_20090114 I 19:11:42 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3A2F2203RDUS0004 I 19:11:42 Source File Implementation Identifier: Ulead Systems USA Inc. I 19:11:42 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 19:11:42 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE20NU11 CN01 (Q:) (USB) I 19:11:42 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 19:11:42 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 19:11:42 Write Mode: DVD I 19:11:42 Write Type: DAO I 19:11:42 Write Speed: MAX I 19:11:42 Link Size: Auto I 19:11:42 Lock Volume: Yes I 19:11:42 Test Mode: No I 19:11:42 OPC: No I 19:11:42 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:11:42 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,079 KB/s (8x) I 19:11:42 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 19:11:46 Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: 1991936 (VTS_01, PGC: 11, Cell: 1, Vob/Cell ID: 11/1, Time: 00:00:00, SPLIP: No -> Yes) I 19:11:46 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,991,936 I 19:11:46 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set W 19:11:46 L0 Data Zone Capacity Miscompare! W 19:11:46 Wanted: 1991936, Got: 2086912 I 19:11:46 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 19:11:47 Writing LeadIn... I 19:12:27 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 19:12:27 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 19:12:27 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1991935) I 19:20:18 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1991936 - 3945871) I 19:28:20 Synchronising Cache... I 19:28:21 Closing Track... I 19:28:41 Finalising Disc... I 19:29:45 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:29:45 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Jon\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GE20NU11_CN01_07-JUNE-2011_19-11_MKM-003-00_MAX.ibg I 19:29:45 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:29:45 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:03 I 19:29:45 Average Write Rate: 8,280 KB/s (6.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,127 KB/s (8.0x) I 19:29:45 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 19:29:56 Waiting for device to become ready... I 19:30:15 Device Ready! I 19:30:17 Operation Started! I 19:30:17 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE20NU11 CN01 (Q:) (USB) I 19:30:17 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 19:30:17 Image File: H:\ISOs\TV\DVD.iso I 19:30:17 Image File Sectors: 3,945,872 (MODE1/2048) I 19:30:17 Image File Size: 8,081,145,856 bytes I 19:30:17 Image File Volume Identifier: PRJ_20090114 I 19:30:17 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 3A2F2203RDUS0004 I 19:30:17 Image File Implementation Identifier: Ulead Systems USA Inc. I 19:30:17 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 19:30:17 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 19:30:17 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 19:30:17 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 19:30:17 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1991935) W 19:33:26 Failed to Read Sector 258752 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error W 19:33:26 Sector 258752 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB W 19:33:30 Retrying (1)... W 19:33:40 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error E 19:33:42 Failed to Read Sector 258752 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error E 19:33:42 Sector 258752 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB E 19:33:42 Failed to Verify Sectors! I 19:33:42 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:33:42 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Jon\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GE20NU11_CN01_07-JUNE-2011_19-11_MKM-003-00_MAX.ibg I 19:33:42 Export Successfully Completed! E 19:33:42 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:25 I 19:33:42 Average Verify Rate: 2,536 KB/s (1.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,525 KB/s (2.5x)
BlizzardUK Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) No, because I assumed media was meant to be burnt at advertised speeds these days ? I know once upon a time slower was better but I thought something changed where it meant a faster speed is often better. However, if you think burning at 4x or 6x is worth a go, I will do that and give it a shot. I will burn one right now at 4x and edit this post in 40 mins to see if it worked or not, however, it will be annoying if so, as I only got my external LG burner for faster dual layer burning as my existing one only burnt at 4x (which upon thinking about it now may explain why the ones I recorded last year, worked, as I could only burn at 4x then). Edited June 7, 2011 by BlizzardUK
mmalves Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I 19:11:42 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE20NU11 CN01 (Q:) (USB)I 19:11:42 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) These are the write speeds your burner supports on that media, and in theory all of them should work the same, so if 8x isn't working then it's worth a shot trying the slower ones.
BlizzardUK Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Thanks, it is burning now at 4x, will see soon if the verification works. While I am here, what is your opinion on ticking seamless ? I always tick it, but do you think that is a wise idea ? I never know if a "green excellent rated star" layer break is better than selecting seamless. EDIT UPDATE : Well, it seems like the reason is due to the speed, so thanks to mmaives for that advice, I burnt it on my LG 4x DL burner and it verified fine, no errors or problems. Shame that they don't work at 8x as 4x takes ages, but them the breaks I guess. Edited June 8, 2011 by BlizzardUK
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 You should build your images (or burn the VIDEO_TS folder directly) with ImgBurn, not whatever you're using now. DVD Video discs don't usually include the Joliet file system. If your player supports seamless ok (you'd know about it by now if it didn't) then it's fine. Depending on what's being offered, you should preview the layer break positions in order to make an informed choice. The stars are there as a guide (based on technical info, not actual video content), that's all.
BlizzardUK Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Regarding the software, I make and create a project into an ISO with DVD Movie Factory by Ulead (now Corel), I usually make my own DVDs (rather than rip), so perhaps that is why ? If I ever do rip, then I always use IMGBurn, but to author and create a DVD from video files I need to use authoring software that creates menus, like Movie Factory, I use that as it supports xDVD format (I usually put 8 hours of VHS converted video on to a dual layer). So, are you saying I should make a VIDEO_TS folder with Movie Factory instead of a ISO and then build it in to an ISO with IMGBurn ? So, in your expert opinion, would you suggest seamless over an excellent rated layer break position if you know your player is seamless compatible ? Thanks again for all the help, love your software. Edited June 7, 2011 by BlizzardUK
BlizzardUK Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Bummer, now I have another problem, I tried 4x and now I got the below problem. It now just says "Device Not Ready (Medium Not Present - Tray Closed)" when the drive opened and closed to verify. Also it says at the bottom "Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (77%, 0/3) - No Seek Complete", I have no idea what this means, did it complete okay in the end ? I left it do its thing so couldn't see if it finished ok. I 20:03:16 Operation Started! I 20:03:16 Source File: H:\ISOs\TV\DVD.iso I 20:03:16 Source File Sectors: 3,945,872 (MODE1/2048) I 20:03:16 Source File Size: 8,081,145,856 bytes I 20:03:16 Source File Volume Identifier: PRJ_20090114 I 20:03:16 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3A2F2203RDUS0004 I 20:03:16 Source File Implementation Identifier: Ulead Systems USA Inc. I 20:03:16 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02) I 20:03:16 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE20NU11 CN01 (Q:) (USB) I 20:03:16 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 20:03:16 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 20:03:16 Write Mode: DVD I 20:03:16 Write Type: DAO I 20:03:16 Write Speed: 4x I 20:03:17 Link Size: Auto I 20:03:17 Lock Volume: Yes I 20:03:17 Test Mode: No I 20:03:17 OPC: No I 20:03:17 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:03:17 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x) I 20:03:17 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 20:03:20 Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: 1991936 (VTS_01, PGC: 11, Cell: 1, Vob/Cell ID: 11/1, Time: 00:00:00, SPLIP: No -> Yes) I 20:03:20 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,991,936 I 20:03:20 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set W 20:03:20 L0 Data Zone Capacity Miscompare! W 20:03:20 Wanted: 1991936, Got: 2086912 I 20:03:20 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 20:03:21 Writing LeadIn... I 20:04:07 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 20:04:07 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3945871) I 20:04:07 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1991935) I 20:16:23 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1991936 - 3945871) I 20:28:27 Synchronising Cache... I 20:28:28 Closing Track... I 20:28:57 Finalising Disc... W 20:30:44 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (77%, 0/3) - No Seek Complete W 20:30:44 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: No Seek Complete W 20:30:44 Retrying (1 of 3)... I 20:30:45 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:30:45 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Jon\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GE20NU11_CN01_07-JUNE-2011_20-03_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg I 20:30:45 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:30:45 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:28 I 20:30:45 Average Write Rate: 5,409 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,577 KB/s (4.0x) I 20:30:45 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 20:30:55 Waiting for device to become ready... Edited June 7, 2011 by BlizzardUK
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