AlyShehata Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Hey guys, this is my first post in this forum. I have just bought a spindle of 50 Verbatim MIS MKM003. I am using c4eva firmware to burn xgd3 games which need to use the edge till its outermost edge. Now, I first bought a pack of 5 Singapore verbatims, and i got PERFECT results. Thats what made me want to buy 50. However, ever single one out of the 50 has a problem around and at the layerbreak. The PI and PIF always rise to a really high number. I have tried LightningUK's method and it works perfectly throughout the disk, except at the layerbreak. When i closesly inspected the disks, i found there is a circle of smudges (dust like) at the edge. the rest of the disk is perfect. When i inspected the 5 Pack disks which were perfect, I found them to be completely clean all around. So i posted it on other forums, and many people said they have been getting good results with these smudges.However, I am really not sure. If anyone here can help me out, i would be grateful. Already wasted 15 disks and they all fail at LB and fail verify at 50% (Sometimes). I have tried a lot of settings and they all have similar issues. this burn was FHT:On, OHT: Off, SB: On, Default IMGBURN settings, and was 9th burn. Here is my Log: I 12:33:19 ImgBurn Version 2.5.6.0 started! I 12:33:19 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 12:33:19 Total Physical Memory: 4,184,440 KB - Available: 2,862,220 KB I 12:33:19 Initialising SPTI... I 12:33:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:33:19 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS324 B AL1B (G:) (ATA) I 12:33:20 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40 NL02 (H:) (ATA) I 12:33:20 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs! W 12:33:41 I/O Interface has been changed! I 12:33:41 Shutting down SPTI... I 12:33:41 Initialising ElbyCDIO... E 12:33:41 Unable to initialise ElbyCDIO! - ELBYCDIO.DLL E 12:33:41 Reason: The specified module could not be found. E 12:33:41 You need to install CloneDVD. E 12:33:41 Visit http://www.elby.ch to download it. E 12:33:41 Alternatively, try changing the 'I/O Interface' in the Settings to a different one. W 12:33:48 I/O Interface has been changed! I 12:33:48 Shutting down ElbyCDIO... I 12:33:48 Initialising SPTI... I 12:33:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:33:48 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS324 B AL1B (G:) (ATA) I 12:33:48 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40 NL02 (H:) (ATA) I 12:33:48 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs! I 12:34:32 Operation Started! I 12:34:32 Source File: C:\Users\Aly\Rip.dvd I 12:34:32 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048) I 12:34:32 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes I 12:34:32 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM I 12:34:32 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 8db24000MS UDFBridge I 12:34:32 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM) I 12:34:32 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 12:34:32 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50) I 12:34:32 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHAS324 B AL1B (G:) (ATA) I 12:34:32 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) I 12:34:32 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 12:34:32 Destination Media Sectors: 4,267,040 I 12:34:32 Write Mode: DVD I 12:34:33 Write Type: DAO I 12:34:33 Write Speed: 4x I 12:34:33 Link Size: Auto I 12:34:33 Lock Volume: Yes I 12:34:33 Test Mode: No I 12:34:33 OPC: No I 12:34:33 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:34:33 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x) I 12:34:33 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 12:34:33 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 12:35:02 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520 I 12:35:02 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc I 12:35:02 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 12:35:02 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 12:35:03 Writing LeadIn... I 12:35:05 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 12:35:05 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 12:35:05 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519) I 12:48:16 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014) I 13:01:28 Synchronising Cache... I 13:01:33 Closing Track... I 13:01:34 Finalising Disc... I 13:02:12 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:02:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Aly\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS324_B_AL1B_SUNDAY-NOVEMBER-13-2011_12-34_PM_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg I 13:02:12 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:02:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:35 I 13:02:12 Average Write Rate: 5,391 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,644 KB/s (4.1x) I 13:02:43 Close Request Acknowledged I 13:02:43 Closing Down... I 13:02:43 Shutting down SPTI... I 13:02:43 ImgBurn closed! ; and here is a picture of the graph ( All the other disks from the same spindle look similar.) Edited November 13, 2011 by AlyShehata
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 With those same settings, if you get the same bad bit around the LB after clearing OPC history (and power cycling the drive), get another spindle of discs. Get them in 25's rather than 50's... then you don't have to write so many off if the spindle is bad! I assume the 50's were from Singapore too?
AlyShehata Posted November 13, 2011 Author Posted November 13, 2011 yes.they are singapores ofcourse. thing is, I got these from amazon and the reviews specifically say they're good for xgd3. 92682 is the model number. it cud be the drive but then again the drive made perfect burns before. are the smudges at the edge normal.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 No, the discs should be perfectly clean. It just looks like yours have a bad outer edge - but possibly only effecting the area you're trying to overburn into. Burn one in discovery mode with a custom number of sectors. Set it to 4,173,824. Then scan that one and see how it turns out.
AlyShehata Posted November 13, 2011 Author Posted November 13, 2011 Ok, will do that right now. I reckon this will basically make this dvd useless, but np. I will do it, scan it and upload the results. Thanks for helping out also, is there any way i could get these disks to work? I hate to think that I will just throw them in the bin xD
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 If the one you're about to burn (and yes, it'll be useless) is ok, you can at least use them for 'normal' size burns. By the sounds of it you've already tried various settings in an attempt to make them burn properly. There's only so much changing the settings can actually do. If the media is bad, you're probably going to be out of luck.
AlyShehata Posted November 14, 2011 Author Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Ok, I just burned a Disk using discovery mode and the sector number you gave me. Now i really dont understand, is it the dvd's or the burner? I can't find any singapore verbatims in my city to make sure. But all the burns i've had with the non dusty smudgy disks at edge are perfect. Also it might be worth mentioning that these disks have a really strong bad smell. Smells like petroleum or some burnt chemical. Edited November 14, 2011 by AlyShehata
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 It's impossible to say if it's the drive or the discs until you actually try some others. It's got to be one of the two though. Do you know anyone with the same drive (and firmware) that wouldn't mind testing your discs? Failing that, even if you can't find Singapore Verbatims, just try whatever you *can* find. (Only buy a small amount, not 50!)
AlyShehata Posted November 14, 2011 Author Posted November 14, 2011 I will get another 2 spindles of 25 Verbatim MIS MKM-003 soon. But anyways, I just notice something quite weird. If i leave my iHas Burner with a disk inside it, 1 minute after puttin in the disk i can hear it spinning. And it keeps spinning til i take the disk out. For instance, I just came back from school, and i heard a loud noise from the burner. I opened the tray and took out the disk and the disk was actually a bit warm. As soon as I opened the tray the loud noise disappeared. Faulty drive or Firmware or Reinstall Windows? Im not really sure anymore
LIGHTNING UK! Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I've noticed mine spin up a fair bit too. I think it's just something they do when something asks the drive for certain info. Don't leave a disc in it
AlyShehata Posted November 15, 2011 Author Posted November 15, 2011 Ok, I managed to get hold of ONE singapore verbatim MKM-003. I inspected it and it looked perfectly clean and pure from the data side (ie: no smudges at the edge). Burned it using your settings and VOILA definately not a drive problem now i guess. Just wanted to report this here, maybe it could be of use to you. Seems like those disks with smudges or dust at the edge are useless. Thanks for all the help, and for IMGBURN, best program ever .
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