buklao Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 hello can someone tell me what this error means? i got it when i tried to burn an xbox 360 xgd3 game...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 It means the disc is unreadable. Post the log if you want actual help.
buklao Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) I 20:58:22 ImgBurn Version 2.5.6.0 started!I 20:58:22 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 20:58:22 Total Physical Memory: 2 095 532 KB - Available: 1 434 580 KB W 20:58:22 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 20:58:22 Initialising SPTI... I 20:58:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:58:22 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S (E:) (ATA) I 20:58:22 -> Drive 2 - Info: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F SB02 (D:) (SCSI) I 20:58:22 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs! I 21:00:03 Operation Started! I 21:00:03 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\\ I 21:00:03 Source File Sectors: 4 267 015 (MODE1/2048) I 21:00:03 Source File Size: 8 738 846 720 bytes I 21:00:03 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM I 21:00:03 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 8db24000MS UDFBridge I 21:00:03 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM) I 21:00:03 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 21:00:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.50) I 21:00:03 Destination Device: [0:1:0] ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S (E:) (ATA) I 21:00:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) I 21:00:03 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 6x; 8x I 21:00:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4 267 040 I 21:00:03 Write Mode: DVD I 21:00:03 Write Type: DAO I 21:00:03 Write Speed: 4x I 21:00:03 Link Size: Auto I 21:00:03 Lock Volume: Yes I 21:00:03 Test Mode: No I 21:00:03 OPC: Yes I 21:00:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:00:03 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5 540 KB/s (4x) I 21:00:03 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 21:00:03 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 21:00:33 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2 133 520 I 21:00:33 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc I 21:00:33 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 21:00:33 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 21:00:38 Writing LeadIn... I 21:00:40 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 21:00:40 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 21:00:40 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519) I 21:13:52 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014) I 21:27:05 Synchronising Cache... I 21:27:10 Closing Track... I 21:27:11 Finalising Disc... I 21:27:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:27:44 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_iHAS124_B_AL0S_DEN-1-JANUARI-2012_21-00_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg I 21:27:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:27:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:41 I 21:27:44 Average Write Rate: 5 387 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5 852 KB/s (4.2x) I 21:27:44 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 21:27:52 Waiting for device to become ready... I 21:28:06 Device Ready! I 21:28:07 Operation Started! I 21:28:07 Source Device: [0:1:0] ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S (E:) (ATA) I 21:28:07 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) I 21:28:07 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 6x; 8x I 21:28:07 Image File: C:\Documents and Settings\\ I 21:28:07 Image File Sectors: 4 267 015 (MODE1/2048) I 21:28:07 Image File Size: 8 738 846 720 bytes I 21:28:07 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM I 21:28:07 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 8db24000MS UDFBridge I 21:28:07 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM) I 21:28:07 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 21:28:07 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.50) I 21:28:07 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:28:08 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 21:28:08 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 21:28:08 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519) W 21:37:27 Failed to Read Sector 2075968 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 21:39:43 Failed to Read Sector 2075968 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 21:40:20 Failed to Read Sector 2085072 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 21:44:33 Retrying (1)... I 21:44:37 Verifying Sectors... W 21:44:53 Failed to Read Sector 2085776 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 21:50:10 Failed to Read Sector 2085776 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 21:50:23 Failed to Read Sector 2085778 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 21:50:24 Failed to Read Sector 2085778 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 21:50:24 Failed to Verify Sectors! I 21:50:25 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:50:25 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\ATAPI_iHAS124_B_AL0S_DEN-1-JANUARI-2012_21-00_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg I 21:50:25 Export Successfully Completed! E 21:50:25 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:22:17 I 21:50:25 Average Verify Rate: 3 122 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 11 237 KB/s (8.1x) Edited January 5, 2012 by buklao
buklao Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) i tried it again with another new brand disc no scratches anything i got the same error plz help me? I need help ASAP i have wasted to many discs please? Edited January 1, 2012 by buklao
nstgc Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 i tried it again with another new brand disc no scratches anything i got the same error plz help me? I need help ASAP i have wasted to many discs please? Were you using one of those silly operating systems like Windows of OS X? Try Linux, there may be something that is preventing you from burning the image of a game (Microsoft probably doesn't care what reason you have for burning one of their games, and will stop you even if you have legitimate intents...which I'm guess you don't.)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 They are still unreadable so your drive is producing low quality burns on the media you're using. Try clearing the drives OPC history via the Advanced Settings feature (or in the eeprom tool) Are your Verbatim discs made in Singapore? They seem more reliable than others made elsewhere - check the packaging, it should say around the barcode area somewhere.
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) ITs verbatim mkm003 singapore made. i clear my opc everytime. i am using windows xp. I had one succesfull burn, after that, none of the 4 discs verified in imgburn. I burn with 4x and Smartburn=ON ForceHyperTuning=ON OnlineHyperTuning=OFF OverSpeed=OFF OPC was off. ive tried so many settings that i cant remember! i tried SM on, FHT on and OHT on and OS off. and so on, please help me? I get so bad results in kprobe to Edited January 3, 2012 by buklao
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Those settings worked fine for me in testing - you can check my results in the 'Drives' section (maybe you already did and that's where you got them from?) You don't need to clear OPC every time when using them. I only cleared it before using them for the first time. After that, I didn't touch it. Have you tried another spindle of discs?
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Those settings worked fine for me in testing - you can check my results in the 'Drives' section (maybe you already did and that's where you got them from?) You don't need to clear OPC every time when using them. I only cleared it before using them for the first time. After that, I didn't touch it. Have you tried another spindle of discs? I only had 10 verbatims, is there a possibility that its a bad spindle? I had one good burn thought. Just look at my kprobe results: result 1: Date : 2012-01-03 02:39:15 Model : 0-0-1-0 E:ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM003 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation] Speed : 4x ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1 Scanned range : 0 - 4267011 Sampling count : 250550 Errors : 0 PI Max : 862 PI Average : 27,62 PI Total : 865994 PIF Max : 65 PIF Average : 1,85 PIF Total : 57929 result2 http://www.imagebay.us/viewer.php?file=8mlenkkyxluxt6im7b3.png result3 http://www.imagebay.us/viewer.php?file=3lwnoz49c3wy1dbhpe1.png i really dont know what to do, my hands are tied now... i see that in ur test u also get bad kprobe result. How come i even get better result with my aone than my verbatim? :S i saw in ur test that u got better results with aone gold plus then with verbatims in kprobe hows that? Date : 2012-01-02 23:31:42 Model : 0-0-1-0 E:ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S Disc : DVD+R DL , RICOHJPND01C [Ricoh Company Limited] Speed : 4x ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1 Scanned range : 0 - 4267023 Sampling count : 233745 Errors : 0 PI Max : 187 PI Average : 5,63 PI Total : 174307 PIF Max : 185 PIF Average : 0,33 PIF Total : 10355 Edited January 3, 2012 by buklao
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 You must have a bad spindle of discs. You aren't even just getting a spike at the overburnt layer break position (as is the norm for most 'bad' burns), you're getting high error levels before, in and after the overburnt area. When looking at my results (with the iHAS124 drive) you have to take into account that some of the tests may have been done without using anything beyond normal disc capacity (so no overburning as allowed by the 'max' firmware). My Aone discs wouldn't overburn without failing to verify.
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 You must have a bad spindle of discs. You aren't even just getting a spike at the overburnt layer break position (as is the norm for most 'bad' burns), you're getting high error levels before, in and after the overburnt area. When looking at my results (with the iHAS124 drive) you have to take into account that some of the tests may have been done without using anything beyond normal disc capacity (so no overburning as allowed by the 'max' firmware). My Aone discs wouldn't overburn without failing to verify. I realised that after i wrote my latest reply, sorry. A friend borrowed me an Verbatim MKM003 disc and i got the uncorrectable error message when verifiying, shall i reflash the max burner fw? Or is the driver damaged?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Is your friend able to (over)burn their MKM003 without issues? Can they burn yours too? I guess you could have a faulty drive (or at least one that can't overburn very well), yeah.
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Is your friend able to (over)burn their MKM003 without issues? Can they burn yours too? I guess you could have a faulty drive (or at least one that can't overburn very well), yeah. He doesn't not own any iHAS drive unfortunately, I just grabbed a disc from him to test. Is there anything i can do to fix it or should I contact the supplier for exchange? What do I tell them? That the driver can't "overburn"? Edited January 3, 2012 by buklao
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Can you scan the disc you got from your friend and post the screenshot of the results please. If it looks the same as the others you've posted, just say it's producing bad burns at the end of Verbatim MKM003 DL discs - and that you've tried 2 spindles. It might be worth you loading the latest official firmware and burning one more with that (still at 4x) just to double check it's bad (post the scan screenshot of that too).
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Can you scan the disc you got from your friend and post the screenshot of the results please. If it looks the same as the others you've posted, just say it's producing bad burns at the end of Verbatim MKM003 DL discs - and that you've tried 2 spindles. It might be worth you loading the latest official firmware and burning one more with that (still at 4x) just to double check it's bad (post the scan screenshot of that too). Haha this might sound akward but in the heat of the moment and frustation about losing so many discs I just cracked it and threw it away I reverted the iHAS drive back to stock and flashed it again with "max" fw just to try again, I will come back with results. One odd thing is that my first burn when I opened the spindle and the first disc that was there burned succesfully and I got good Kprobe results (not very good but decent and the game was playable) after that I played with EEproom settings that I got the Uncorreable error, so I thought if I try to revert back to stock and reflash the fw I could have better luck? And I wont touch any settings in EEprom. To many 'I' sorry for the grammar but I() am really tired and frustrated Edited January 3, 2012 by buklao
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 FINALLY! After many wasted discs and frustrating moments I finally found the solution, halleluja! So here it goes: What I did is that i flashed back my iHAS back to stock, and after that i reflashed "max fw" again. I never touched anything in EEprom or anything in any settings except that i ticked "Perform OPC before write" as stated in C4's guide. The image burned and verified 100% sucess in imgburn, now it was all down to Kprobe, was it going to pass or not. I did a test and when it came to 99% i was like "COME ON MOTHERFUCKER " and i saw this result Its accepatable and within the range, it could get better but its my best result. Some large spikes but I think ill go with this one. Date : 2012-01-03 20:54:29 Model : 0-0-1-0 E:ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM003 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation] Speed : 4x ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1 Scanned range : 0 - 4267010 Sampling count : 250622 Errors : 0 PI Max : 51 PI Average : 2,53 PI Total : 79375 PIF Max : 4 PIF Average : 0,17 PIF Total : 5294 thx for all the help lightning_uk, much appreciated
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 That looks fine but you may find it gets worse again as you burn more discs (like mine did when I tested about 12 discs from a spindle). Keep an eye on it.
buklao Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 That looks fine but you may find it gets worse again as you burn more discs (like mine did when I tested about 12 discs from a spindle). Keep an eye on it. I most definitely will, I think the problem was that i messed with the EEpromm settings when I shouldn't. They were fine as they were "stock". After all my first burn was a success.
buklao Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 Is it normal that the drive make a sound when i put a CD in it? Without burning or anything just putting in the CD and letting it be for 2 mins and then the drive starts to make this noise http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WHYJPSE0 please listen, i really need to know if its a drive problem. Then i will contact the supplier for exchange. You can open the file with VLC. I am asking because i made another burn and this is the result i got in Kprobe. I am sick of this. Date : 2012-01-05 19:59:23 Model : 0-0-1-0 E:ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM003 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation] Speed : 4x ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1 Scanned range : 0 - 4267009 Sampling count : 246930 Errors : 0 PI Max : 566 PI Average : 10,60 PI Total : 331908 PIF Max : 13 PIF Average : 0,39 PIF Total : 12341
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Isn't that just the drive spinning a badly balanced disc? Regarding the KProbe results, it's so much easier to look at the graph rather than read/interpret numbers. If you only provide one or the other, please provide the screenshot/graph. I did say later burns might play up again. It took me 7 attempts from a spindle of 20 to get settings that produced consistent burns.
buklao Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) That disc i put in was an empty DVD+DL verbatim MKM003 disc. I put in another disc and still the same sound. Sometimes the sound comes up when it verifies the disc or is in the middle of burning process I am sorry i didn't save the graph, is there a way to retrive it back again? "I did say later burns might play up again. It took me 7 attempts from a spindle of 20 to get settings that produced consistent burns." I read your guide here on team-xecuter forum http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74721 and I also saw your tests. My question is: Did you always have "stock" settings? Because when I got that great result (last page) I had everything stock, only smartburn on. I didn't clear OPC. Do you really need to clear OPC each time before you make a burn? Also is these settings recommended for "max" fw? IMGBURN SETTINGS: Layerbreak: Calculate optimal OPC=OFF EEPROM SETTINGS: SB=ON FHT=ON OS=OFF OHT=OFF As stated in the xecuter guide. Because in one guide it's stated you must have OPC off and in this guide it says you need to turn OPC off. Is it possible that the drive is not defect? If there is anyway to know if the drive is defect or not I would gladly like to test that. Edited January 5, 2012 by buklao
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 The settings I used for each attempt can be seen in the logs. The post you should be looking at is this one - http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=18871&view=findpost&p=136519 If it doesn't automatically jump to the right place, it's post #20 in the thread. I started with default settings, had 3 total failures, cleared OPC history and then got a decent 4th. After that things got worse again and I started to mess with the settings.
buklao Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Yes I saw that. So you did get better results when you turned off OPC and clear OPC history. But I wonder why it performed better when i reflashed the fw? Do you think i'll have more luck trying those settings now? (SB=ON,FHT=ON,OS=OFF,OHT=OFF OPC off) I know it's most trial and error but sometimes you lose grip and get frustrated. For me it was my first burn with default settings in EEprom showed decent results in Kprobe (verified in imgburn), after that I messed with the settings in EEprom I followed this guide http://www.xboy.se/guider/kprobe-guide (the settings is in the end of the site) and after that I got 5-6 bad burns and some of them didn't even verifiy in Imgburn(when I got bad results from that guide I tried the guide in xecuter forum that was advised from you still with no luck). I then reflashed the max fw and I did get my best results ever. Today I wanted to try to burn another game = back to square 1 Edit: Also what I saw from your test that you enabled FHT and after that you constantly got better result. Might be worth a shot. Also all of your success was with OPC turned off. Edited January 5, 2012 by buklao
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Reflashing resets the eeprom to default values. So it will have wiped out learnt media (opc stuff) and reset the settings (FHT/OHT/OS/SB). They worked ok for me but only for the first burn. After that my results went downhill again. You just have to be prepared to waste a spindle finding settings that work. As the drives are cheap, you might consider it an option just to get another one. Compare the two and use the best one.
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