cheerful Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Hi, I've followed the the following link to burn AVCHD DVD on DVD+R DL disc. http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/burn_avchd_with_imgburn.cfm The first disc was success. It was created with ImgBurn and DVD writer. Then I upgraded to BD writer and started to burn a lot of BD discs. Now I am trying 2nd project. ImgBurn no longer pops up for file system UDF suggestion since that's how it's set. However, the 2nd project had failed to produce playable disc. The option used is MODEL1/2048 UDF 2.50 with Recurse Subdirectories checked (should not matter, right?). After the burn completed (include verification), explorer will show just the folder BDMV and CERTIFICATE as empty folders and Encore as a file. Once rebooted, explorer will show the correct folder structure (see bottom). However, TotalMedia Theatre complains the disc is invalid. The mts files in the STREAM folder plays fine. I've tried to create ISO instead. Once the image is mounted, it plays fine. However, burning the mds/iso resulted in unplayable disc as well. What could it be the problem? it does not the Encore folder (It contains a few files used for authoring)? Or it's the problem with the burner? Thanks! Directory of W:\ 06/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> BDMV 06/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> CERTIFICATE 06/03/2012 01:01 <DIR> Encore 0 File(s) 944 bytes 3 Dir(s) 0 bytes free Directory of W:\BDMV 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> . 6/03/2012 01:06 <DIR> .. 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> AUXDATA 6/02/2012 23:02 <DIR> BACKUP 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> BDJO 6/02/2012 23:02 <DIR> CLIPINF 6/02/2012 22:58 144 index.bdmv 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> JAR 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> META 6/02/2012 22:58 494 MovieObject.bdmv 6/02/2012 23:02 <DIR> PLAYLIST 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> STREAM 2 File(s) 2,266 bytes 10 Dir(s) 0 bytes free Directory of W:\CERTIFICATE 6/02/2012 22:58 <DIR> . 6/03/2012 01:06 <DIR> .. 6/02/2012 23:02 <DIR> BACKUP 6/02/2012 22:58 104 id.bdmv 1 File(s) 512 bytes 3 Dir(s) 0 bytes free Edited June 3, 2012 by cheerful
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Post the log of the burn / verify please - as per the pink box up the top
cheerful Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) The burn was a success (including verification) and I did not see anything in the log looking wrong. I can save the log next time. Is there anythng specific I should look for? Thanks Edited June 3, 2012 by cheerful
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 The logs gets saved automatically, you can pull up old ones via the Help menu. I just want to check everything was detected correctly. Playback issues comes from your player or the source files - because ImgBurn just burns exactly what you give it. Of course that doesn't really explain why a mounted ISO behaves differently to that same ISO burnt to a disc. What program do you use for mounting? What version of TMT are you running? Do you have the latest patches installed? Have you tried any other playback software? e.g. PowerDVD
cheerful Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 TMT is 5.0.1.114. It has successfully played an AVCHD 1080i on CD before. I am using Virtual CloneDrive I don't have Power DVD. Neither MPC-HC or WMP can play the disc (not sure if they should). I've digged out the log. Does it provide any hint? ---- ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 - Log ; ÐÇÆÚÈÕ, 03 ÁùÔÂ 2012, 07:32:08 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 01:01:51 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started! I 01:01:51 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 01:01:51 Total Physical Memory: 8,387,768 KB - Available: 4,567,096 KB I 01:01:51 Initialising SPTI... I 01:01:51 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 01:01:52 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHBS112 2 PL01 (W:) (ATA) I 01:01:52 -> Drive 2 - Info: ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (X:) (SCSI) I 01:01:52 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE! E 01:01:52 Failed to check for ImgBurn update! I 01:04:14 Operation Started! I 01:04:14 Building Image Tree... I 01:04:14 Calculating Totals... I 01:04:14 Preparing Image... I 01:04:14 Contents: 23 Files, 19 Folders I 01:04:14 Content Type: BD Video I 01:04:14 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 01:04:14 File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 01:04:14 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 01:04:14 Size: 8,456,557,779 bytes I 01:04:15 Sectors: 4,129,195 I 01:04:15 Image Size: 8,457,584,640 bytes I 01:04:15 Image Sectors: 4,129,680 I 01:04:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 01:06:07 Operation Started! I 01:06:07 Building Image Tree... I 01:06:07 Calculating Totals... I 01:06:07 Preparing Image... I 01:06:08 Contents: 23 Files, 19 Folders I 01:06:08 Content Type: BD Video I 01:06:08 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 01:06:08 File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 01:06:08 Volume Label: AVCHD I 01:06:08 Size: 8,456,557,779 bytes I 01:06:08 Sectors: 4,129,195 I 01:06:08 Image Size: 8,457,584,640 bytes I 01:06:08 Image Sectors: 4,129,680 I 01:06:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 01:06:17 Operation Started! I 01:06:17 Building Image Tree... I 01:06:18 Calculating Totals... I 01:06:18 Preparing Image... I 01:06:18 Contents: 23 Files, 19 Folders I 01:06:18 Content Type: BD Video I 01:06:18 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 01:06:18 File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 01:06:18 Volume Label: AVCHD I 01:06:18 Size: 8,456,557,779 bytes I 01:06:18 Sectors: 4,129,195 I 01:06:18 Image Size: 8,457,584,640 bytes I 01:06:18 Image Sectors: 4,129,680 I 01:06:19 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02 I 01:06:20 Operation Started! I 01:06:20 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 01:06:20 Source File Sectors: 4,129,680 (MODE1/2048) I 01:06:20 Source File Size: 8,457,584,640 bytes I 01:06:20 Source File Volume Identifier: AVCHD I 01:06:20 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 40C308C8003F031B I 01:06:20 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 01:06:20 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 01:06:20 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 01:06:20 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHBS112 2 PL01 (W:) (ATA) I 01:06:20 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) I 01:06:20 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x I 01:06:20 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 01:06:20 Write Mode: DVD I 01:06:20 Write Type: DAO I 01:06:20 Write Speed: 8x I 01:06:20 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No I 01:06:20 Link Size: Auto I 01:06:20 Lock Volume: Yes I 01:06:20 Test Mode: No I 01:06:20 OPC: No I 01:06:20 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 01:06:22 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) I 01:06:22 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 01:06:22 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes I 01:06:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,064,848 I 01:06:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 01:06:56 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 01:06:56 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 01:06:58 Writing LeadIn... I 01:06:59 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4129679) I 01:06:59 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4129679) I 01:06:59 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2064847) I 01:15:50 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2064848 - 4129679) I 01:24:43 Synchronising Cache... I 01:24:44 Closing Track... I 01:24:45 Finalising Disc... I 01:25:12 Exporting Graph Data... I 01:25:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHBS112_2_PL01_ÐÇÆÚÈÕ,2012-6-3_1-06_RITEK-S04-66_8x.ibg I 01:25:12 Export Successfully Completed! I 01:25:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:52 I 01:25:12 Average Write Rate: 7,769 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,256 KB/s (8.1x) I 01:25:12 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 01:25:20 Waiting for device to become ready... I 01:25:32 Device Ready! I 01:25:33 Operation Started! I 01:25:33 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHBS112 2 PL01 (W:) (ATA) I 01:25:33 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) I 01:25:33 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x I 01:25:33 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 01:25:33 Image File Sectors: 4,129,680 (MODE1/2048) I 01:25:33 Image File Size: 8,457,584,640 bytes I 01:25:33 Image File Volume Identifier: AVCHD I 01:25:33 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 40C308C8003F031B I 01:25:33 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 01:25:33 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 01:25:33 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50) I 01:25:33 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 01:25:35 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4129679) I 01:25:35 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4129679) I 01:25:35 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2064847) I 01:31:37 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2064848 - 4129679) I 01:37:36 Exporting Graph Data... I 01:37:36 Graph Data File: C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHBS112_2_PL01_ÐÇÆÚÈÕ,2012-6-3_1-06_RITEK-S04-66_8x.ibg I 01:37:36 Export Successfully Completed! I 01:37:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:02 I 01:37:36 Average Verify Rate: 11,471 KB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,691 KB/s (12.1x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Right, well if you mount a BD Video disc in Virtual Clone Drive it'll be emulating a BD-R disc. What you've got that is a DVD+R DL that's been booktyped to DVD-ROM... that could be what's causing the problem. I don't know the specifics on what TMT looks for and works with when trying to play a BD Video (or AVCHD) disc, you should talk to Arcsoft. It may not like the DVD-ROM booktype or it may not like the CERTIFICATE folder being there... who knows. btw, the latest patch can be downloaded from here - http://www.arcsoft.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9760&title=...a-theatre-521119-release-notes You can update the firmware on your burner too. PL04 is available now - http://www.firmwarehq.com/Lite-On/iHBS112%2B2/files.html
cheerful Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 Thanks for pointing them out. I will update. I'd like to clear a few things before doing the burning again to avoid more coasters. Is there a different booktype to try? If so, how do I control it? I have a few DVD+RW available (SL though) so that I can experiment if needed. Thanks
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Basically, you either booktype to DVD-ROM or you leave it set to whatever the media really is. There's an option in the Settings that could help you if it turns out that TMT needs the booktype set on something other than DVD-ROM. It's on the Write tab and it's called [use 'Normal' For BD Video Discs (*)] If you mount a .DVD file (which points to the .ISO) in Virtual Clone Drive and you have a line in it saying 'MediaType=DVD', it may override the program using BD-R for any sized BD Video image. You could check it using ImgBurn in Read mode. If you select the virtual drive in the source box and look in the disc info text on the right, the 'Current Profile' should say 'DVD-ROM'. If it does, see if TMT will play that ok - and if it does, the booktype probably isn't the problem.
cheerful Posted June 4, 2012 Author Posted June 4, 2012 I've got the following information below. PowerDVD can play the disc, except it can't render the menu. The mounted ISO works fine. There are 2 sections for physical format information: ADIP has DVD+R DL vs Last Record has DVD-RAM The ISO mounted via Virtual CloneDrive has not book type information. They also have different Current Profile. Not sure if they are relevant. In Settings -> Write tab -> Page 1, I see Auto 'Change Book Type' (*) -- checked Use 'Normal' For BD Video Disc (*) -- unchecked Should I check the 2nd option? Thanks ======== ISO mounted via Virtaul CloneDrive： ELBY CLONEDRIVE 1.4 (SCSI) Current Profile: BD-R Disc Information: Status: Unknown State of Last Session: Unknown Erasable: Unknown Formatted: Unknown Sessions: Unknown TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 4129759) -> LeadOut (LBA: 4129760) ======== AVCHD DVD+R DL ATAPI iHBS112 2 PL04 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Complete State of Last Session: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 TOC Information: Session 1... (LBA: 0) -> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 4129679) -> LeadOut (LBA: 4129680) Track Information: Session 1... -> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, LTS: 4129680, LRA: 0) Book Type: DVD+R DL Disc Control Blocks Information: ATAPI Physical Format Information (ADIP - L0): Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Physical Format Information (ADIP - L1): Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0): Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 1 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1): Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 1
cheerful Posted June 4, 2012 Author Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) I just read a bit more details in the guide at http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6232 Samsung (using the identifier 'TSSTcorp') and LG (using the identifier 'HL-DT-ST') drive owners will automatically have all their +R /+RW /+R DL media changed to look like a DVD-ROM disc via bit setting. (Note: +RW bit setting isn't supported by the LG drives though). For NEC based drives with original firmware only +R DL media will be book typed to 'DVD-ROM'. For +R/+RW media need first to flash the burner with a patched firmware, that then allows for the book type to be changed to DVD-ROM. You can read more in the guide Book type +R/+RW media on NEC/Optiarc drives. It did not actually mention Lite-on. Should I disabled Auto 'Change Book Type'? Thanks Edited June 4, 2012 by cheerful
cheerful Posted June 4, 2012 Author Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) If you mount a .DVD file (which points to the .ISO) in Virtual Clone Drive and you have a line in it saying 'MediaType=DVD', it may override the program using BD-R for any sized BD Video image. Could you point me the a link about how to do this? This is probably the quickest way to test if Virtual CloneDrive can be manipulated to simulate different book type. Thanks Edited June 4, 2012 by cheerful
Cynthia Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Create a text file in a pure text editor (like Windows Notepad) and name it to something and let it end with .dvd Save it to the same place as you have your original iso file stored. Assume you create a file named ACME.dvd then it should have these lines inside it MediaType=DVD ACME.ISO then use this ACME.dvd to mount it. Replace the word ACME with the name of your created ISO file.
cheerful Posted June 4, 2012 Author Posted June 4, 2012 Setting MediaType=DVD make the book type DVD-ROM. Now TMT complains about the mounted disc too. Is there a way try other book type such as Normal and DVD+R DL? Thanks
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Yes, just tick that box I told you about in the settings [use 'Normal' For BD Video Discs (*)] 'Normal' means to just leave it alone (or force it back to 'Normal' if the drive defaults to making it DVD-ROM). So if it's a DVD+R DL disc it'll stay as DVD+R DL and won't be changed to DVD-ROM. Try building an ISO without the CERTIFICATE folder and mount that as a DVD too, see if that works.
cheerful Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 I can confirm removing CERTIFICATE folder does not change the outcome. Is there a way to test the book type with image and virtual drive? Thanks
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 It doesn't look like it, no. VCD always just emulates a DVD-ROM disc. It could be done with DAEMON Tools though - when using an MDS file.
cheerful Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 I only have the older version of Daemon Tools that's for 32-bit system only. Hope it has a trial version now for 64-bit. How do I create the proper .mds file? Thanks
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Use the feature in ImgBurn's Tools menu. You could have use that for the .DVD file too.
cheerful Posted June 7, 2012 Author Posted June 7, 2012 Here is the report dvd file: HDDVD, BDR works MDS file: nothing works However, PowerDVD can play all of them fine, except can't use the menu. What will happen if I set the book type for DVD+R DL to BDR?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 You can't do that I'm afraid. TMT must be really strict with AVCHD on DVD. As I mentioned earlier, you're probably better off just asking them what works and what doesn't (or rather why it doesn't!).
cheerful Posted June 7, 2012 Author Posted June 7, 2012 I did ask ArcSoft but got no response. Comparing the support for an expensive software vs ImgBurn which is free ....
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 Did you try posting in their forum? It's got to be harder for them to ignore it in there!
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