Anzillu07 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Hello I've burned many Xbox360 games with this program and it works very well. I've burned a game lately on a Verbatim disc and truncated and after about 5 minutes of playing it says unreadable everytime. I've tried several other times to reburn using Memorex DVD-R DL's and that doesn't seem to help at all, I am calculating optimal instead of user specified. Do these errors have anything to do with it?? I 11:58:54 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started! I 11:58:54 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 11:58:54 Total Physical Memory: 4,193,264 KB - Available: 3,018,264 KB I 11:58:54 Initialising SPTI... I 11:58:54 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 11:58:54 -> Drive 1 - Info: TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653J D200 (D:) (ATAPI) I 11:58:54 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! W 11:59:39 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to truncate! I 11:59:39 Operation Started! I 11:59:39 Source File: C:\Users\Dusty\Desktop\New folder\xbox games\dragons dogma\imars-dragon-RF.dvd I 11:59:39 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048) I 11:59:39 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes I 11:59:40 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM I 11:59:40 Source File Volume Set Identifier: cbf4000 I 11:59:40 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM) I 11:59:40 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 11:59:40 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50) I 11:59:40 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653J D200 (D:) (ATAPI) I 11:59:40 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) I 11:59:40 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x I 11:59:40 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 11:59:40 Write Mode: DVD I 11:59:40 Write Type: DAO I 11:59:40 Write Speed: 4x I 11:59:40 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No I 11:59:40 Link Size: Auto I 11:59:40 Lock Volume: Yes I 11:59:40 Test Mode: No I 11:59:40 OPC: No I 11:59:40 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 11:59:40 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x) I 11:59:40 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM W 11:59:40 Optimal layer break position exceeds L0 capacity. W 11:59:40 Optimal L0 Sectors: 2,133,520 W 11:59:40 Maximum L0 Sectors: 2,086,912 I 11:59:40 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520 I 11:59:40 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc W 11:59:40 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Failed! - Reason: Invalid Field in Parameter List I 11:59:40 Filling Buffer... (80 MB) I 11:59:41 Writing LeadIn... I 12:00:23 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 12:00:23 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 12:00:23 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 12:13:21 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4267014) I 12:26:56 Synchronising Cache... I 12:27:01 Closing Track... I 12:27:02 Finalising Disc... I 12:27:39 Exporting Graph Data... I 12:27:39 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Dusty\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_DVD+-RW_TS-H653J_D200_THURSDAY-JUNE-14-2012_11-59_AM_RITEK-S04-66_4x.ibg I 12:27:39 Export Successfully Completed! I 12:27:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:59 I 12:27:39 Average Write Rate: 5,243 KB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,577 KB/s (4.0x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Do these errors have anything to do with it?? No. You seem to have disabled 'Verify' so I can't tell if the disc is even readable in the drive that burnt it. You should read this - http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=12200
Anzillu07 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Posted June 14, 2012 It seems some of the games I would verify, there would be massive amounts of errors and it would take more than half an hour verifying 1 sector every couple seconds when there is a couple hundred thousand. Most games I do burn though are perfect, just the game I burnt doesn't seem to read correctly.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 By default, it errors out at the first problem during a verify. The whole point in a verify is to detect the presence of errors, not to see how many there are in total. When you hit 1 error (and perhaps retry it a few times), you should pretty much just call it a day with that disc and burn another copy. That is of course assuming your drive is working correctly and not just erroring out due to it being dirty or whatever.
Anzillu07 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Posted June 15, 2012 My DVD burner works great for games, only the newer games are giving me troubles. Everytime I set it to verify for the new games I get all those errors during the verification process. So you're saying that maybe the disc or my burner is a problem? If so, I don't see how when it burns other games fine and I clean the disc before I burn onto it everytime. Do you think the because the game file is bigger than the disc it can't read it correctly because it isn't all there on the disc?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 I'm saying you shouldn't ever get a errors or miscompares from a verify operation. If you do, something went wrong. The drive doesn't know (or care) what you're burning so the whole 'new games' and 'old games' thing has nothing to do with anything - when it comes to verify errors anyway. Yes, truncating your burns isn't reliable and of course any attempt to read data that doesn't actually exist will end in a failure.
Anzillu07 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Posted June 15, 2012 What do you think went wrong? I'm going to try and burn the same disc again on a Verbatim and truncate it, I'll post what it says in the verify part.
Anzillu07 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Posted June 15, 2012 Here is the log of what it says: I 16:14:49 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 16:14:56 Waiting for device to become ready... I 16:15:07 Device Ready! I 16:15:16 Operation Started! I 16:15:16 Source Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653J D200 (D:) (ATAPI) I 16:15:16 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD+R DL) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) I 16:15:16 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x I 16:15:16 Image File: C:\Users\Dusty\Desktop\New folder\xbox games\dragons dogma\imars-dragon-RF.dvd I 16:15:16 Image File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048) I 16:15:16 Image File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes I 16:15:16 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM I 16:15:16 Image File Volume Set Identifier: cbf4000 I 16:15:16 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM) I 16:15:16 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF I 16:15:16 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50) I 16:15:16 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX W 16:15:18 Session 1, Track 1 is smaller on the disc than it is in the image file. W 16:15:18 Disc's Track Sectors: 4173824 (TOC Sectors: 4173824) W 16:15:18 Image File's Track Sectors: 4267015 (TOC Sectors: 4267015) I 16:15:18 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 16:15:18 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 16:15:18 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 16:21:11 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4267014) I 16:27:05 Exporting Graph Data... I 16:27:05 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Dusty\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_DVD+-RW_TS-H653J_D200_FRIDAY-JUNE-15-2012_3-30_PM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg I 16:27:05 Export Successfully Completed! I 16:27:05 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:47 I 16:27:05 Average Verify Rate: 11,840 KB/s (8.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,168 KB/s (12.4x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 That's to be expected, you are truncating. If you don't want *any* errors (or rather, warnings), buy the correct hardware for the job.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 A dictionary could answer that question. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/truncate
Showstopper Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 A dictionary could answer that question. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/truncate What does it mean in terms of imgburn though?
mmalves Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 It means the ISO image will be burned up to the disc's capacity, and the excess data beyond the disc's capacity is ignored.
Anzillu07 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 If you're burning Xbox360 games like myself, I guess truncating is the best way to go.. It seems though that I don't always burn a perfect game copy, I burned 2 of the same game, 1 works 1 doesn't read at all.. Not sure. But, I'm glad I got these errors or warnings cleared up.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 If you're burning Xbox360 games like myself, I guess truncating is the best way to go. If you refer back to post #9 you should get the hint that isn't the case at all! What you're doing is the worst possible thing you can do.
Anzillu07 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 I understand truncating is bad. But, would you rather overburn a game to a disc? My DVD burner burns games fine(even most truncated), just some of the ones I truncate seem to fail every now and then. I don't really think it's necessary to have to buy an iHas burner.. I know they're not really expensive, but to me it could be a waste of time since mine works just fine. Btw, my drive is a TSSTCorp DVD+-RW TS-H653J.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Don't think of it as overburning with an ihas, it's a simple case of having 97% of the data available or 100%. It's pretty obvious which is better Read any xbox related forum that deals with this stuff and they'll flat out tell you not to truncate now that other options are available. I have no interest in it myself but I still need to keep on top of things so I can at least pretend I know what I'm talking about
Anzillu07 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 I 16:42:52 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX W 16:42:53 Session 1, Track 1 is smaller on the disc than it is in the image file. W 16:42:53 Disc's Track Sectors: 4173824 (TOC Sectors: 4173824) W 16:42:53 Image File's Track Sectors: 4267015 (TOC Sectors: 4267015) I 16:42:53 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 16:42:53 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014) I 16:42:53 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 16:48:47 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4267014) W 16:49:07 Failed to Read Sectors 2097536 - 2097567 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 16:49:20 Failed to Read Sector 2097539 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 16:55:28 Retrying (1)... W 16:55:38 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error Is there any reason why I'm getting these errors? From verifying Dragons Dogma.
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