sparkymarktoo Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) I'm trying to compress a blue ray set of files onto a 4.7G disc. How do I set up ImgBurn to compress files to fit? There are 5 languages available. Can I remove some of these files in order to save disc space? Please help me. I am so frustrated. Spent hours trying to figure out how to back up my discs and this is the first time this has happened. I'm just a rookie but am learning quickly how little I know! Mark E 14:56:19 Name: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\VIDEOS\A MOVIES\ E 14:56:19 Size: 5,857,337,773 bytes E 14:56:57 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:38 I 14:57:01 Operation Started! I 14:57:01 Building Image Tree... I 14:57:09 Checking Directory Depth... I 14:57:09 Calculating Totals... I 14:57:09 Preparing Image... E 14:57:09 File size exceeds the limit imposed by the ISO9660 file system. E 14:57:09 Name: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\VIDEOS\A MOVIES\ E 14:57:09 Size: 5,857,337,773 bytes E 14:57:14 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:12 Edited August 10, 2012 by sparkymarktoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice2bhi Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You cant do it whit ImgBurn. Try this one: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BD-Rebuilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 You cant do it whit ImgBurn. Try this one: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BD-Rebuilder It says I have to use a DVD Fab HD decrytor or ANY DVD for Blu-Ray decrytion. I have no idea what this means and am skeptical about downloading anything I'm not familiar with because uninstalling leaves a crap-load of registry clutter that I do not feel comfortable about removing. If you would please give me advice on how this works and why I would need to use a decrytor or why BD-Rebuilder suggests I need a decrytor, that would help alot. Also, these decrytors are expensive, something I cannot afford. I am disabled and am trying to burn some movies to watch while recovering from surgeries (too many). I am using Sony DVD's 4.7G so I don't have BD discs to burn to. I haven't had problems until today. I used DVD Flick which takes half a day to burn a disc. I think one problem is, if I watch a downloaded movie on VLC, it turns the file into an .avi which is screwing up my video when I try to burn it. I went back into my files and noticed that most are still in mkv, etc. but the vids I watched have been converted to .avi. Do I need to convert them back to their original code or do I need to redownload them (using wifi @150 kbs!) which really blows but its all i have and I can't afford a high speed Internet connection. So you see, I have a shipload of issues to deal with and this is all new to me. I've burned a couple dozen vids using DVD Flick but I had a couple go bad and I thinks its because of the .avi issue. One disc is 2.9G and by the time I ran it through DVD Flick, it was over 5G's. Does anything I've said make sense? Am I at least onto something with this .avi issue? If I download a movie in Blu-Ray format, can I use my HP Quick Play to watch it (its blu-ray compatible) before I record or should I record before I watch the vid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 ImgBurn is a burning tool. No converting, no transcoding. You need to prepare your files according to what type of disc you want. DVD Flick does a good job, you just need to make the setting to output to a single layer DVD 4.7GB if you only have that kind of discs. Dual layer discs DVD 8.5 GB are more expensive. I don't know what you say about watching a movie with VLC turns it into avi thing. Probably just changes the extension not realy convert it but I don't now why this happens and is not related to this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I have been using DVD Flick. It takes 6 to 9 hours to burn a 2G av file. One 2.1G file ended up into a 5.7G video which would not burn after I tried both suggestions by ImgBurn after using DVD Flick? I see the write rate at 4-6 fps even when I set the priority at above normal? The final writing takes place with a version of ImgBurn. That works well but I've had problems writing after the extension has been changed. The first burn audio was delayed to the video track and the second, the whole movie skipped and jumped. I have an Entertainment system, Blu-Ray, 286G memory, 2 duo core Intel Centrino Processors, 4G RAM with an additional 7G of Virtual RAM. I bought this pc for the purpose of video editing/viewing. I just tried to install Avisynth and BD but Avisynth wouldn't install and BD will not install without Avisynth. This is really killing me. I can't walk. I barely survive day to day so its important I can find a way for this to work out? I'm sorry if I've asked questions not related to this forum but it would seem that everything related to building a DVD video is related in one way or another? In other words, I'd like to know what other options I have in order to burn DVD's with ImgBurn with a program or editing options other than DVD Flick because of the previous problems or how do I fix those problems? As to the file extension, if its changed, how do I or do I need to change it before loading it into DVD Flick or some other program before ImgBurn writes the file(s)? The screen copy is of what happened once I used DVD Flick, then ImgBurn came up with this response. Edited August 14, 2012 by sparkymarktoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 On a core 2 duo and 4 GB RAM shuldn't take so long the convertion. Probably your system is screwed up or something hogs your system. (Lots of codecs and filters installed, that interfere in the process, maybe.) Disable temporary your antivirus while convetring. That I/O Error basicaly means your drive don't like the disc you're using. Try a cleaning disc in that drive. Try a lower speed rather than MAX (as seen in that screen). A full log is much better than a screen. You can also give DVDStyler a try instead of DVDFlick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) I'm running a basic Microsoft Essentials anti-virus program. I will try disabling it now. This was a log file from running DVD Flick. I try to rerun it. Nothing happened but it said it was successful. There is nothing on the disc. I tried to burn The Bridges of Madison County. 2.8G. When DVD Flick was done with it: 4,868,472,432 bytes and 2, 377,184 sectors. Mode 1/2040 LB(1,188,592) Why would the 2.8G file turn into a 4.868G file? I'm so tired, can hardly keep my eyes open. This movie is for my mother. Her nephew assisted in the editing of this movie with Clint Eastwood. Every time I try to burn, the disc file always nearly doubles in size from the file I have downloaded. If codecs are the problem, how do I delete them and how do you explain the 2 dozen movies I burned previously? Some are home movies I took with a camera. Some are from YouTube (my own videos) and some are torrents. They all worked well. If the opticals are the problem (cleaning) wouldn't it be also a problem in playback? No problems there, I verified that the discs played back in HP Quick Play that doesn't recognize Data Files like the last couple discs I burned that turned out to be data files, one can only be read in textual form, no video extensions at all. I've attached 2 screen shots and one log file that said it was successful. Successful at what? My disc is still blank. Have to sleep. Please help me figure this one out. I'm going to down load DVD Styler and give it a try though it only lists 32 bit version and I'm running 64 bit Vista Ultimate service pack 2. Hope this doesn't matter? I appreciate your patience and kind help. I really would like to find a way to make this work and stick with it. Thanks again. I 00:09:56 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started! I 00:09:56 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 00:09:56 Total Physical Memory: 4,159,508 KB - Available: 1,163,428 KB I 00:09:57 Initialising SPTI... I 00:09:57 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 00:09:58 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 00:09:58 Found 1 BD-ROM/DVD±RW! I 00:13:45 Operation Started! I 00:13:45 Building Image Tree... I 00:14:21 Checking Directory Depth... I 00:14:21 Calculating Totals... I 00:14:21 Preparing Image... I 00:14:21 Checking Path Length... I 00:14:21 Contents: 39 Files, 3 Folders I 00:14:21 Content Type: Data I 00:14:21 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 00:14:21 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 00:14:21 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 00:14:21 Size: 4,868,347,104 bytes I 00:14:21 Sectors: 2,377,138 I 00:14:21 Image Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 00:14:21 Image Sectors: 2,377,184 I 00:14:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:50 I 00:14:36 Operation Started! I 00:14:36 Image Contents: 39 Files, 3 Folders I 00:14:36 Image Sectors: 2,377,184 (MODE1/2048) I 00:14:36 Image Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 00:14:36 Image Layer Break Position: 1,188,592 I 00:14:36 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD-R/RW (Media Capacity: 2,297,888) I 00:14:36 Image Double Layer Profile: DVD+R DL (Min L0: 0, Max L0: 2,086,912, Media Capacity: 4,173,824) I 00:14:36 Image Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED I 00:14:36 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.7.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 00:14:36 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 00:14:36 Image File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 00:14:36 Destination File: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY.ISO I 00:14:36 Destination Free Space: 128,213,594,112 Bytes (125,208,588.00 KB) (122,274.01 MB) (119.41 GB) I 00:14:36 Destination File System: NTFS I 00:14:36 File Splitting: Auto I 00:14:36 Writing Image... I 00:21:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:23 I 00:21:00 Average Write Rate: 12,413 KB/s (9.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 44,864 KB/s (32.4x) W 00:25:32 Load Queue Failed! W 00:25:32 File Name: C:\Users\Mark\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Queue Files\ImgBurn.ibq W 00:49:07 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 00:49:07 Operation Started! I 00:49:07 Source File: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY.MDS I 00:49:07 Source File Sectors: 2,377,184 (MODE1/2048) I 00:49:07 Source File Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 00:49:07 Source File Volume Identifier: THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY I 00:49:07 Source File Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED I 00:49:07 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 00:49:07 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 00:49:07 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 00:49:07 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 00:49:07 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 00:49:07 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 00:49:07 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 00:49:07 Write Mode: DVD I 00:49:07 Write Type: DAO I 00:49:07 Write Speed: MAX I 00:49:07 Link Size: Auto I 00:49:07 Lock Volume: Yes I 00:49:07 Test Mode: No I 00:49:07 OPC: No I 00:49:07 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 00:49:07 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) E 00:52:35 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 00:52:40 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:33 I 00:52:40 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A W 00:59:58 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 00:59:58 Operation Started! I 00:59:58 Source File: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY.MDS I 00:59:58 Source File Sectors: 2,377,184 (MODE1/2048) I 00:59:58 Source File Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 00:59:58 Source File Volume Identifier: THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY I 00:59:58 Source File Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED I 00:59:58 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 00:59:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 00:59:58 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 00:59:58 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 00:59:58 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 00:59:58 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 00:59:58 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 00:59:58 Write Mode: DVD I 00:59:58 Write Type: DAO I 00:59:58 Write Speed: MAX I 00:59:58 Link Size: Auto I 00:59:58 Lock Volume: Yes I 00:59:58 Test Mode: No I 00:59:58 OPC: No I 00:59:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 00:59:58 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) E 01:00:06 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 01:00:09 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:10 I 01:00:09 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A I 01:00:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 01:00:49 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 01:00:49 Found 1 BD-ROM/DVD±RW! W 01:06:57 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 01:06:57 Operation Started! I 01:06:57 Source File: C:\Users\Mark\Desktop\THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY.MDS I 01:06:57 Source File Sectors: 2,377,184 (MODE1/2048) I 01:06:57 Source File Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 01:06:57 Source File Volume Identifier: THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY I 01:06:57 Source File Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED I 01:06:57 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 01:06:57 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 01:06:57 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 01:06:57 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 01:06:57 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 01:06:57 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 01:06:57 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 01:06:57 Write Mode: DVD I 01:06:57 Write Type: DAO I 01:06:57 Write Speed: MAX I 01:06:57 Link Size: Auto I 01:06:57 Lock Volume: Yes I 01:06:57 Test Mode: Yes I 01:06:57 OPC: No I 01:06:57 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 01:06:57 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) E 01:07:03 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 01:07:06 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 01:07:06 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A I 01:38:20 Operation Started! I 01:38:20 Building Image Tree... I 01:38:20 Checking Directory Depth... I 01:38:20 Calculating Totals... I 01:38:20 Preparing Image... W 01:38:20 ISO9660 File System: 29 folder/file names have been modified due to your current settings. I 01:38:20 Checking Path Length... I 01:38:20 Contents: 39 Files, 3 Folders I 01:38:20 Content Type: Data I 01:38:20 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 01:38:20 File System(s): ISO9660 I 01:38:20 Volume Label: THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY I 01:38:20 Size: 4,868,347,104 bytes I 01:38:20 Sectors: 2,377,138 I 01:38:20 Image Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 01:38:20 Image Sectors: 2,377,184 I 01:38:20 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 01:38:37 Operation Started! I 01:38:37 Building Image Tree... I 01:38:37 Checking Directory Depth... I 01:38:37 Calculating Totals... I 01:38:37 Preparing Image... W 01:38:37 ISO9660 File System: 29 folder/file names have been modified due to your current settings. I 01:38:37 Checking Path Length... I 01:38:37 Contents: 39 Files, 3 Folders I 01:38:37 Content Type: Data I 01:38:37 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 01:38:37 File System(s): ISO9660 I 01:38:37 Volume Label: THE_BRIDGES_OF_MADISON_COUNTY I 01:38:37 Size: 4,868,347,104 bytes I 01:38:37 Sectors: 2,377,138 I 01:38:37 Image Size: 4,868,472,832 bytes I 01:38:37 Image Sectors: 2,377,184 I 01:38:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 What do I do with this? Can I burn it now? ImgBurn.log MADISON COUNTY.log Edited August 15, 2012 by sparkymarktoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 This process consists from two parts. First the convertion than the burn. ImgBurn is just called up to do the burn part. You can't blame ImgBurn for the work of DVDFlick. Remember that you transcode a file from one format to other. Different formats have different amount of running time/space occupied. If you don't set the parameters in DVDFlick to target a DVD (4.3 GB) I guess it will use the standard compression (~120 minutes/DVD 5). The running time according to IMDB is 135 min so you have 15 min above the DVD 5 standard time compression, hence why your image is bigger. Again, you can set this in DVDFlick to force it to target the output to a DVD 5 capacity making DVDFlick squeeze the whole 135 min in less than 4.5 GB (with ~200 MB tolerance). Don't use custom size. I suggest that you do this process in steps so untick Create ISO image and Burn project to disc. This way you can verify the output files and play them in a software player before you decide to burn them to disc. Use this guide to burn the output files to a disc http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thank you iamany. I have only myself to blame, not blaming ImgBurn or anything else but my own ignorance. I've read dozens of faq's including basics from doom9. ImgBurn, DVD Flick, DVD Styler (I tried this last night all I got was a disc full of data files). I'm including screen shots of every stage of DVD Flick settings. I found no DVD 5. I've set the General tab to DVD 4.3. On the Video tab, there are two TARGET FORMAT SETTINGS (in NTSC format): NTSC settings one is NTSC, the other is NTSC film. Should I set this setting to NTSC film or NTSC? I've been selecting NTSC. Should I try NTSC film? or is that setting for converting 35mm film to make up for the variance in the frame loss? Under the VIDEO TAB, there is also a TARGET BIT RATE SETTING: AUTO (which I have selected or 2, 3, 4...8MBit\s Under AUDIO, there is a BITRATE SELECTION: AUTO (which I have selected) or 64,128, 256, 384, 448 kbit\s. Is the Auto Selection the correct one? I've read the ImgBurn link you gave me. Thank you. I've recorded it for future reference along with a couple dozen others from doom9, ImgBurn including the whole guide that was linked to the Guides in ImgBurn. Unfortunately, I don't understand some of the directions. You mentioned untick save as ISO image and burn to disc then play in my software. Could you be a little more specific as to how I go about this? I run through the settings listed above if they are correct, then on DVD Flick what do I select so that I can view the results of DVD Flick in HP Quick Play. I used HP Quick Play to verify that my disc is burned in DVD format. If the disc is not in DVD Format, it will display insert a DVD because it will not recognize any other formatting. I have Windows Media Player 11, VLC Media Player, Miro ( which I used to download Torrents) and HP Quick Play that I can use to play media files. How do I get from DVD Flick not creating an ISO Image or burning to disc to playing the conversion it created in one of these media players? This is the biggest problem I face? I've recorded more that 2 dozen movies including a college band that I recorded with my Cannon Camera, the recording of my mother singing with her group, a ripped version of a prerecorded movie from someone else's converted disc, I've recorded Torrent files including files from YouTube. Something happened that I am not doing correctly as I had done previously. I've uninstalled and reinstalled DVD Flick, ImgBurn, etc. I use CCleaner every morning. Defrag...etc. The last I checked DVD Flick was encoding at 25 fps. Is that good or should it be decoding at a faster frame rate? I've included screen shots of my settings on DVD Flick. Can you tell me if I've selected something wrong or if I should try different selections? I really do appreciate all your help and appreciate your patience. I want to learn and love to share what I've learned with other people. I hope you feel the same way. Its good to know that when someone asks for your help that they APPRECIATE it and the time involved in helping them matters. Thanks again. Looking forward to hearing from you. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Under the VIDEO TAB, there is also a TARGET BIT RATE SETTING: AUTO (which I have selected or 2, 3, 4...8MBit\s Under AUDIO, there is a BITRATE SELECTION: AUTO (which I have selected) or 64,128, 256, 384, 448 kbit\s. Is the Auto Selection the correct one? Leave those settings on AUTO. Selecting a low bitrate will make the image small (low quality image) while selecting high bitrate (better/best quality image) will ignore the standard DVD size, that's why your images are bigger. Leaving it on Auto will try to use the space available and will not exceed it. Image quality will depend on source image quality and running time. The more time you want to squeeze into a disc the lower the quality. That's always time vs quality. The highest bitrate (best quality) will give you ~60 minutes on a DVD. Standard bitrate will let ~120 minutes on a DVD (this is also stated on disc or package of discs). A bitrate calculator for your use http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm Also you can read here what's a DVD 5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD On the last screen, untick Burn project to disc. You will find the converted files in the Project destination folder in "\dvd" folder. There should be a VIDEO_TS folder with a bunch of IFO BUP VOB files. Using VLC you can open the file VIDEO_TS.IFO (that's the DVD starter) that will load the files and play it as disc (and with MENU if you make one). Windows Media Player should play it too. 25 fps on your speciffication should be a good encoding speed, I think. Almost realtime. NTSC uses 30 fps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Good news/ Bad news. I have always set the Auto settings to Auto when using DVD Flick. I always used the DVD4.3 setting also. I successfully burned The Bridges of Madison County. The final Conversion was 4.636G which barely made the 4.7 disc size. I have always used the Auto settings. I just wanted to know if I should of been doing anything different. I will look into the calculator link you gave me. Now the bad news. Last night, I tried to burn The Departed. With DVD Flicks settings all to Auto, the General tab set to DVD 4.3 (the same as I had with Bridges of Madison County), the resulting encoding came out to over 5G. When ImgBurn offered to try and fit it onto the disc, I checked the tick mark to overburn. It said it would fit the file onto the disc but I received the same error as all the previous errors. (invalid field is CDB) So, it didn't burn. Bridges of Madison County started out with a 2.1G file from the same download source. Just the same as if I'd of downloaded it from Netflix or Warner Brothers as a purchased product. I have read and did understand that 2 hours was the rate of play on the Sony AccuCore discs I'm using. HQ=1 hour, SP=2 hours, LP=4 hours. This should allow me to burn movies slightly longer than 2 hours. My first recording was War Horse and the quality was excellent even on a very cheap dvd player/tv. I also recorded Singing In The Rain with Gene Kelly. That video source was 4.44G and it turned out excellent considering that it was made in the 1950's and remastered. This is really messing with my head? Every disc I play plays well in my drive. I've never had any problems with playback so the optical device must be working properly. Besides, I haven't used the disc drive too often at all? Maybe 20 or 30 discs but most were software installations. I must be doing something wrong or something is not working right in DVD Flick? I usually go through the items on the menu and make sure they are all set to default before I build a disc to record. It would seem that DVD Flick chooses to ignore the DVD4.3 rule randomly and sends a file too large for ImgBurn to use on the media I have? Can you think of anything else I can try? I'd like to try DVD Styler again but I don't know how to operate it? The last time, it burned data files onto the disc and I tried it again and it wouldn't recognize the video source I selected. I tried it on several different files and it always came up with a blank screen that there are no usable files yet I can play them on VLC and Miro. To sum it up this really sucks! I've read and reread many different users guides/faq's. Don't know what else to do? Edited August 16, 2012 by sparkymarktoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I don't know why it gets you a bigger image than you set the target. That's the reason why I suggested to split the proces in two parts. After the conversion you can see the size and decide to burn or not. If the VIDEO_TS folder size is bigger than the space available on disc you shouldn't bother burning the disc. Yes, you can try to squeeze a few MB with overburning but not so much. Try with Target size to Custom instead of DVD (4.3 GB) and set Custom size 4300 (leave all the rest on Auto) to see if that makes it in target or miss it. If the Custom size do a better job than you can use the calculator I linked you to calculate the bitrates according to the running time of movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Thanks for all your support. I have successfully burned 2 DVD's in a row! I think the biggest thing was to always select each level @General, Video, Audio, and Burn as default before adding your a/v content. I select DVD4.3 and tick use as default, and go on down the line. So far, that has worked twice. I will go for the tri-fecta tonight. In regards to burning, ImgBurn would not allow me to try to burn if the file was too large. That was the flag received "Failed to reserve track, Invalid Field in CDB". I have no idea what that means but if I go through every line and select "use as default", every burn has succeeded. I hope it works tonight. Maybe this can help others whom find themselves to have the same problem. I think the main thing is to always tick the DVD4.3G and then select "Use as Default" before building their project. Thanks for all your help. I have a lot of resources to read and hopefully understand. Maybe sometime I'll try the calculator. I take it I'm supposed to use the results from the calculator as "custom"? The biggest problem I see is, when I download the av file, it shows the file as 2.1G, 2.5G but after DVD Flick goes through its routine, the file becomes 5+G. I'd have to run DVD Flick and then how would I apply the calculator to use with ImgBurn? The files I start out with aren't the same size once DVD Flick Combines both Audio and Video tracks before it burns them. I will hope that the procedure I mentioned will solve the problems I've had. I've never burned a disc that was too large. ImgBurn would not allow it. The only times (2) that I had discs I couldn't use where burned as data files. I've had 2 videos where the audio lagged behind the video and the same movie burned the second time, the track stuttered, skipped about. Again, thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The DVD 4.3 GB and all the settings on Auto in DVD Flick shoud work just fine in general. Don't mess with them if you don't know what's what. The source file size don't matter here. It could be a 700 MB avi and still end as full DVD after conversion. Use the calculator only if you want the disc to be full to the brim. DVD Flick leaves a ~200MB tollerance hence it use the target DVD 4.3 GB when it should be DVD 4.5 GB as the real capacity of the disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 This is really pissing me off!! I've successfully burned 4 discs in a row and then this:I 22:56:41 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started! I 22:56:41 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2) I 22:56:41 Total Physical Memory: 4,159,508 KB - Available: 1,706,812 KB I 22:56:42 Initialising SPTI... I 22:56:42 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:56:44 -> Drive 1 - Info: Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 22:56:44 Found 1 BD-ROM/DVD±RW! I 22:58:25 Operation Started! I 22:58:25 Building Image Tree... I 22:58:25 Corrected file system selection for DVD Video disc. I 22:58:25 Checking Directory Depth... I 22:58:25 Calculating Totals... I 22:58:25 Preparing Image... E 22:59:18 Unable to find any cells that could be used for the layer break! E 22:59:18 The minimal size of this image is 2495024 sectors. E 22:59:18 The layer break must be between sectors 408112 and 2086912. E 22:59:18 Sector 408112 falls within VTS_01 (Title), which starts at sector 600. E 22:59:18 Relative to the start of VTS_01 (Title), the layer break must be between sectors 407512 and 2086312. E 22:59:18 Relative sector 407512 falls within PGC 1, Cell 1, which starts at relative sector 0 and ends at 2494374. E 22:59:18 Relative to the start of Cell 1, try splitting between sectors 407512 (795.92 MB) and 2086312 (4074.83 MB). E 22:59:18 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:52 I 23:06:50 Operation Started! I 23:06:50 Building Image Tree... I 23:06:51 Corrected file system selection for DVD Video disc. I 23:06:51 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:06:51 Calculating Totals... I 23:06:51 Preparing Image... E 23:07:30 Unable to find any cells that could be used for the layer break! E 23:07:30 The minimal size of this image is 2495024 sectors. E 23:07:30 The layer break must be between sectors 408112 and 2086912. E 23:07:30 Sector 408112 falls within VTS_01 (Title), which starts at sector 600. E 23:07:30 Relative to the start of VTS_01 (Title), the layer break must be between sectors 407512 and 2086312. E 23:07:30 Relative sector 407512 falls within PGC 1, Cell 1, which starts at relative sector 0 and ends at 2494374. E 23:07:30 Relative to the start of Cell 1, try splitting between sectors 407512 (795.92 MB) and 2086312 (4074.83 MB). E 23:07:30 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:39 I 23:08:42 Operation Started! I 23:08:42 Building Image Tree... I 23:08:43 Corrected file system selection for DVD Video disc. I 23:08:43 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:08:43 Calculating Totals... I 23:08:43 Preparing Image... E 23:08:52 Unable to find any cells that could be used for the layer break! E 23:08:52 The minimal size of this image is 2495024 sectors. E 23:08:52 The layer break must be between sectors 408112 and 2086912. E 23:08:52 Sector 408112 falls within VTS_01 (Title), which starts at sector 600. E 23:08:52 Relative to the start of VTS_01 (Title), the layer break must be between sectors 407512 and 2086312. E 23:08:52 Relative sector 407512 falls within PGC 1, Cell 1, which starts at relative sector 0 and ends at 2494374. E 23:08:52 Relative to the start of Cell 1, try splitting between sectors 407512 (795.92 MB) and 2086312 (4074.83 MB). E 23:08:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:09 W 23:19:34 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 23:19:34 Operation Started! I 23:19:34 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:19:34 Source File Sectors: 2,304,000 (MODE1/2048) I 23:19:34 Source File Size: 4,718,592,000 bytes I 23:19:34 Source File Volume Identifier: IMGBURN_DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:19:34 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 2304000_SECTORS I 23:19:34 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.7.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 23:19:34 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 23:19:34 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 I 23:19:34 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 23:19:34 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 23:19:34 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 23:19:34 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 23:19:34 Write Mode: DVD I 23:19:34 Write Type: DAO I 23:19:34 Write Speed: 2.4x I 23:19:34 Link Size: Auto I 23:19:34 Lock Volume: Yes I 23:19:34 Test Mode: Yes I 23:19:34 OPC: No I 23:19:34 BURN-Proof: Enabled W 23:19:34 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 2,770 KB/s (2x) W 23:19:34 The drive only supports writing these discs at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x. E 23:19:40 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 23:19:50 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:16 I 23:19:50 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A W 23:23:43 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 23:23:43 Operation Started! I 23:23:43 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:23:43 Source File Sectors: 2,304,000 (MODE1/2048) I 23:23:43 Source File Size: 4,718,592,000 bytes I 23:23:43 Source File Volume Identifier: IMGBURN_DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:23:43 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 2304000_SECTORS I 23:23:43 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.7.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 23:23:43 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.7.0 I 23:23:43 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 I 23:23:43 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 23:23:43 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 23:23:43 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 23:23:43 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 23:23:43 Write Mode: DVD I 23:23:43 Write Type: DAO I 23:23:43 Write Speed: 2.4x I 23:23:43 Link Size: Auto I 23:23:43 Lock Volume: Yes I 23:23:43 Test Mode: Yes I 23:23:43 OPC: No I 23:23:43 BURN-Proof: Enabled W 23:23:43 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 2,770 KB/s (2x) W 23:23:43 The drive only supports writing these discs at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x. E 23:23:52 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 23:23:54 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:11 I 23:23:54 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A I 23:34:25 Operation Started! I 23:34:25 Building Image Tree... I 23:34:26 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:34:26 Calculating Totals... I 23:34:26 Preparing Image... I 23:34:26 Checking Path Length... I 23:34:26 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 23:34:26 Content Type: Data I 23:34:26 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 23:34:26 File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 23:34:26 Volume Label: THE SHINING I 23:34:26 Size: 12,288 bytes I 23:34:26 Sectors: 6 I 23:34:26 Image Size: 1,245,184 bytes I 23:34:26 Image Sectors: 608 I 23:34:26 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 23:34:36 Operation Started! I 23:34:36 Building Image Tree... I 23:34:36 Corrected file system selection for DVD Video disc. I 23:34:36 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:34:36 Calculating Totals... I 23:34:36 Preparing Image... I 23:34:36 Checking Path Length... I 23:34:36 Contents: 11 Files, 2 Folders I 23:34:36 Content Type: DVD Video I 23:34:36 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 23:34:36 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 23:34:36 Volume Label: THE SHINING I 23:34:36 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 23:34:36 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 23:34:36 TV System: NTSC I 23:34:36 Size: 5,109,231,616 bytes I 23:34:36 Sectors: 2,494,742 I 23:34:36 Image Size: 5,109,809,152 bytes I 23:34:36 Image Sectors: 2,495,024 I 23:34:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 23:35:00 Operation Started! I 23:35:00 Building Image Tree... I 23:35:00 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:35:00 Calculating Totals... I 23:35:00 Preparing Image... I 23:35:00 Checking Path Length... I 23:35:00 Contents: 11 Files, 2 Folders I 23:35:00 Content Type: DVD Video I 23:35:00 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 23:35:00 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 23:35:00 Volume Label: THE SHINING I 23:35:00 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 23:35:00 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 23:35:00 TV System: NTSC I 23:35:00 Size: 5,109,231,616 bytes I 23:35:00 Sectors: 2,494,742 I 23:35:00 Image Size: 5,109,809,152 bytes I 23:35:00 Image Sectors: 2,495,024 I 23:35:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 23:36:33 Operation Started! I 23:36:33 Building Image Tree... I 23:36:33 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:36:33 Calculating Totals... I 23:36:33 Preparing Image... I 23:36:33 Checking Path Length... I 23:36:33 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 23:36:33 Content Type: Data I 23:36:33 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 23:36:33 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 23:36:33 Volume Label: THE SHINING I 23:36:33 Size: 12,288 bytes I 23:36:33 Sectors: 6 I 23:36:33 Image Size: 1,245,184 bytes I 23:36:33 Image Sectors: 608 I 23:36:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 23:36:46 Operation Started! I 23:36:46 Building Image Tree... I 23:36:46 Checking Directory Depth... I 23:36:46 Calculating Totals... I 23:36:46 Preparing Image... I 23:36:46 Checking Path Length... I 23:36:46 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 23:36:46 Content Type: Data I 23:36:46 Data Type: MODE1/2048 I 23:36:46 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 23:36:46 Volume Label: THE SHINING I 23:36:46 Size: 12,288 bytes I 23:36:46 Sectors: 6 I 23:36:46 Image Size: 1,245,184 bytes I 23:36:46 Image Sectors: 608 I 23:36:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:11 I 23:36:58 Operation Started! I 23:36:58 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:36:58 Source File Sectors: 608 (MODE1/2048) I 23:36:58 Source File Size: 1,245,184 bytes I 23:36:58 Source File Volume Identifier: THE SHINING I 23:36:58 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4112BC9700000257 I 23:36:58 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.7.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 23:36:58 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 23:36:58 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 23:36:58 Destination Device: [2:0:0] Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S 1.83 (E:) (ATA) I 23:36:58 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 23:36:58 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 23:36:58 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 23:36:58 Write Mode: DVD I 23:36:58 Write Type: DAO I 23:36:58 Write Speed: 2.4x I 23:36:58 Link Size: Auto I 23:36:58 Lock Volume: Yes I 23:36:58 Test Mode: Yes I 23:36:58 OPC: No I 23:36:58 BURN-Proof: Enabled W 23:36:58 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 2,770 KB/s (2x) W 23:36:58 The drive only supports writing these discs at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x. I 23:36:58 Filling Buffer... (80 MB) I 23:36:59 Writing LeadIn... I 23:37:39 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 607) I 23:37:39 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 607) I 23:37:39 Synchronising Cache... I 23:44:17 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:44:17 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Mark\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Optiarc_BD_ROM_BC-5500S_1.83_SATURDAY-AUGUST-18-2012_11-36_PM_RITEKF1_2.4x.ibg I 23:44:17 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:44:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:15 I 23:44:17 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A I did a verify test run after the first failure: I tried to run a test mode without burning. I do not know if it worked. I may have burned another set of video files onto the disc, haven't checked yet. Why is this happening? I haven't changed any formatting on DVD Flick, yet this randomly happens. ImgBurn says try splitting @ whatever sectors. Would you please help me fix whatever is going on that is wrong? I know I can make this work if you would please help me understand how to split whatever ImgBurn is asking me at such and such sectors in order to have a correct CDB field? 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ianymaty Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 W 23:19:34 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 2,770 KB/s (2x)W 23:19:34 The drive only supports writing these discs at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x. E 23:19:40 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB E 23:19:50 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:16 I 23:19:50 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A W 23:23:43 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! If you are still using single layer discs don't bother to continue with this splitting thing. It's for double layer discs. As I told you before, if the source folder is bigger than the space available on the disc don't bother burning it to disc. Just redo the encoding to a custom lower bitrate to not exceed the disc capacity. Use the calculator and add 10 minutes to the running time of the source file, see what comes out. Also, use one of the available write speeds. 2.4x isn't available. Remember, this is for double layer disc so if you want to know more about it and how to deal with this, read this. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6376 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkymarktoo Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 OK. I don't have a record of what happened because DVD Flick came up with a finished screen. I tried playing the disc and all I saw was snapshots of the video in milliseconds breaks at the video was over. I did everything as previously when I burned 4 discs in a row. I even burned Gone with the Wind which was over 4 hours long! So, I downloaded a verified torrent, Psycho, Rear Window, Birds, Vertigo. Loaded it into DVD Flick. Watched the final burn sequence on the ImgBurn screens. Tried to play it and all I saw was a series of still frames in lightning speed while the intro sound track played, then nothing. The video had come to an end. Everything appeared normal. The write sizes have all been about 4,63*,***,*** bytes. 4.63 plus G's. I have both discs and they weren't from the same source. The first video, I tried to burn Rear Window which was one out of the 4 downloaded. The second, I tried to burn all 4 video's with the same results. A quick flash of stills and that was the end of the video. I added each source individually with the multi burn and Rear Window on its own. There were no other files associated with the download. I watched Rear Window after trying to burn it and it played wonderfully. Great A/V. I'm sorry, don't have the files. I convert the download to a file I reuse each time I burn a new disc so it erases the prior compilation. Easier to keep track of so I do not build up Gigs of unwanted memory. I thought maybe a bad download but they all playback from the hard disc fine. After the burn, DVD Flick gives me a finished screen. I can find nothing wrong in the ImgBurn screens. I know it sounds like an impossible feat to figure out what happened without the logs but they don't exist anymore. I used everything Automatic as usual with the 4.3G selected as the final size. I was hoping you might come up with something that would cause such an issue? Plays back well in VLC AND Miro but doesn't record. Its not the expense I'm upset about, its the time wasted compiling the DVD burn Sometimes as long as 9 hours with Gone With The Wind and almost 7 hours with Psycho, Rear Window, Birds, Vertigo. All for nothing. The retirement home where my mother lives has movie nights so I'm trying to record some older movies for them. If you have any ideas, please share them with me. I'm going to try and redownload them but again, my download speed is between 124 - 150 Killobytes per second through a wifi service. Frustrated again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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