spinningwheel Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 According to an interview with his father that aired today he will not get a State funeral. His dad said he would not have wanted one. And his mom wants the footage of his death put on the air as a warning to others. Source was Good Morning America about 8am.
lfcrule1972 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Posted September 6, 2006 That footage would be tough to watch.....
Defenestration Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 That footage would be tough to watch..... ...but intriguing all the same. Rays don't like to be approached from above, and with a cameraman in front of the ray filming them both, I can understand why the ray got spooked. Very unlucky when you think a few inches either way and he'd probably have survived.
Kenadjian Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 I would like to see the footage that they say he was caught, the entire time, on camera, from attack to pulling out the barb, until he died. I don't want to appear or morbid, but, if his wife chooses to release the footage and stations choose to show it, I am curious as to the events that transpired. Because, even if we do see it, there may simply be no answer. Freak accidents just happen. Normally docile things can get pissed for no reason. Things can get afraid for no reason, too. It may have been an accident, too. That Irwin misinterpreted the action and, as a result, caused it to attack while trying to defend from what he thought was an attack. In the end, I think there can never be an answer because there's no way we can know what was in Irwin's mind or in the "thinking" of the ray in that instant, either. I agree, at the end of the day his time was up, although I firmly believe his lack of expertise with these animals (stingrays) brought him undone. Very sad.
Pain_Man Posted September 7, 2006 Posted September 7, 2006 No, Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, South Africans, and Americans we all have our own slang. I saw Trainspotting for the first time this weekend and I had a hard time understanding all of it. Remember Bernard Shaw: The US & UK: two nations separated by a common language. @blu Can you, ah, translate that into Yank? Real sad that he will miss his beloved Aussies caning the poms to extinction in the upcoming Ashes series. Regards LOL! I thought I didn't get that as well because my broken english
Pain_Man Posted September 7, 2006 Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) According to AP reports, the Queensland cops say that he wasn't annoying or provoking the animal. And it was a bull ray, apparently the biggest kind. It's barb is much bigger than the smaller species, being about 4 inches long (according to the head of the largest aquarium in the US which is in Atlanta). So it's not much different than having a four inch dagger jabbed into your heart. Apparently, one of his ventricles was destroyed and there was simply nothing that could be done. ----- I doubt we'll ever see the video footage. His manager wants it destroyed. Ultimately, it'll be his wife's decision. Unless some asshole gets ahold of the tape and sells it to a tabloid show/newspaper. Personally, I don't think it should be shown. Other than trauma surgeons or ER docs, I don't really see the value (of its being seen). Of course, opinions'll vary. I would like to see the footage that they say he was caught, the entire time, on camera, from attack to pulling out the barb, until he died. I don't want to appear or morbid, but, if his wife chooses to release the footage and stations choose to show it, I am curious as to the events that transpired. Because, even if we do see it, there may simply be no answer. Freak accidents just happen. Normally docile things can get pissed for no reason. Things can get afraid for no reason, too. It may have been an accident, too. That Irwin misinterpreted the action and, as a result, caused it to attack while trying to defend from what he thought was an attack. In the end, I think there can never be an answer because there's no way we can know what was in Irwin's mind or in the "thinking" of the ray in that instant, either. Edited September 7, 2006 by Pain_Man
dbminter Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Wow... just amazing... Wednesday, in Florida, an 81 year old man was apparently stabbed in the chest by a stingray... OUT of the water! It seems that a boat struck a stingray in the water, flinging it out of the water and onto the chest of a man on the boat. The stinger also stabbed him, yep, you guessed it, right in the heart! Steve Irwin may be able to rest better knowing that his unfortunate accident might very well have saved another man's life. This victim did not remove the stinger, waiting for medical help to do so. Now, whether the victim here did that for the reasons that he knew killed Irwin cannot be said yet. If ever. But, by leaving the stinger in his heart for medical personel to surgically removed, it saved his life. They went in and pushed the stinger out by basically continuing the same direction of penetration. By pushing from the opposite direction of Irwin, i.e. by not pulling out the stinger put pushing it on the rest of the way through and out the opposite end of the heat, it prevented the stinger's barbs from latching onto flesh and pulling out any tissue. This reduced the amount of damage to the heart, which was also clean breaks in the tissue and far easier to repair, which was what fatally wounded Irwin.
polopony Posted October 20, 2006 Posted October 20, 2006 According to AP reports, the Queensland cops say that he wasn't annoying or provoking the animal. like they know what pisses off a sting ray. like the nut that had the show on TV she was an animal phycologist yeah right anyone want to buy a bridge?
dbminter Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 A bit like removing an arrow DB? Don't know; never had to remove one before. But, the premise sounds the same. And it's a sound premise, too. That you always go in the direction of entry with any kind of not flat surface.
jack Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) Er, yeah. That is the best way to remove an arrow. Dont ask how I know, lets just say my dad is a shit shot with a bow and arrow. I dont think my brother has forgiven him yet!!! "Bloody kids!! Why didnt he stand still instead of running around all the time!!!" Edited October 21, 2006 by jack
Kenadjian Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 I thought so, you're a bit fucked with a fishing hook though.
volvofl10 Posted October 23, 2006 Posted October 23, 2006 Bloody kids!! Why didnt he stand still instead of running around all the time!!!" anything to do with a moving target is a more sporting challenge ,maybe
lfcrule1972 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Posted October 24, 2006 Yeah possibly - I heard Jack's dad made his bro run around with an apple on his head as well.........
dbminter Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 He was always aiming for the Adam's Apple by mistake.
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