PyroM Posted September 18, 2006 Posted September 18, 2006 Hi there, I know, this is not a DVD-authoring or a general DVD maker forum but I found this sentence in the guide of cornholio7 -> Creating a double layer ISO on your hard drive using ImgBurn It is NOT recommended to use DVD-R DL Discs for Video. Why not, please? Because it cannot be set to booktype DVD-ROM or what else? I have no clue and just want to clearify here. I favorite DVD-R for all my selfmade videos, I always used Ritek G04 4x or TY 8x only. I need most compatible DVD video disks and the question is now: why not DVD-R DL Thanks a lot, yours Pyro
PyroM Posted September 18, 2006 Author Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) I forgot the most important: I just found ImgBurn at weekend, used Copy2DVD till now, and must say: wonderful prog! Edited September 18, 2006 by PyroM
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted September 18, 2006 Posted September 18, 2006 It is NOT recommended to use DVD-R DL Discs for Video. Why not, please? Because it cannot be set to booktype DVD-ROM or what else? Because they're garbage? At least the ones I've burned have been. Verbatim DVD-R DL consistantly failed. Verbatim DVD+R DL consistantly work. When they're both $6 each, I know which one I prefer.
PyroM Posted September 18, 2006 Author Posted September 18, 2006 Ok, this is an argument So it's not a matter of compatibility with standalone players?! IF they would burn fine, then everything would be ok with DVD-R DL. But I was confused because of the end of the sentence "for Video.". I would have expected "DVD-R DL are garbage in all means" or so... Thanks for your input!
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 18, 2006 Posted September 18, 2006 The layer break (switch) position on DVD-R DL media is fixed, on DVD+R DL media you can move it around. So unless your DL image was originally built with a layerbreak at EXACTLY the same point the fixed DVD-R DL one is at, you'll never get a proper burn. When the physical layerbreak position doesn't match the IFO files properly, some players will just hang / crash etc. If you can move the physical layerbreak position on the media (as is the case with DVD+R DL), this clearly isn't an issue.
calweycn Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 The layer break (switch) position on DVD-R DL media is fixed, on DVD+R DL media you can move it around. So unless your DL image was originally built with a layerbreak at EXACTLY the same point the fixed DVD-R DL one is at, you'll never get a proper burn. Can't ImgBurn pad the files in Build Mode, so the layer break lines up properly? Or is that not allowed on DVD-R DL? You still might not get a suitable cell, given the fixed layer break, but it would be more likely. Right?
calweycn Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 It is NOT recommended to use DVD-R DL Discs for Video. Why not, please? Because it cannot be set to booktype DVD-ROM or what else? I have no clue and just want to clearify here. I favorite DVD-R for all my selfmade videos, I always used Ritek G04 4x or TY 8x only. I need most compatible DVD video disks and the question is now: why not DVD-R DL. Compatibility is the biggest problem with DVD-R DL. Reviews by CD Freaks and others have shown very low compatibilty, like 25% of DVD+R DL. Many players won't recognize the discs. DVD+R with DVD-ROM book type is much more likely to be recognized and played without problems. Also, the errors rates tend to be higher with DVD-R DL media. If you want good burns, best to stay away. There is no advantage to DVD-R DL and a lot of drawbacks.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, it can and it does... but that's only if you use ImgBurn. If you're burning an image from another util, obviously that doesn't even come into it - and I was speaking generally about DVD-R DL media, not DVD-R DL media AND ImgBurn.
calweycn Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, it can and it does... but that's only if you use ImgBurn. If you're burning an image from another util, obviously that doesn't even come into it - and I was speaking generally about DVD-R DL media, not DVD-R DL media AND ImgBurn. That's what I thought. Also, if you're burning an image in general, it wouldn't come into play. Only build mode would have that option. Why would anybody here not use ImgBurn now? They would be silly not to.
PyroM Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Thank you very much, these reasons are very well understandable. So, I won't ask further and use DVD+R DL with booktype set to DVD-ROM to be on the safe side. And will use ImgBurn of course Thanks a lot! Edited September 21, 2006 by PyroM
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